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This is great news, but it kinda sucks how some of the community seems to still be reacting. Some of them are calling bs, others saying they're still quitting, etc etc.
I've said it before, but I don't think CCP is free of guilt. At the same time though, having to come to work and read the forums with endless amounts of people bitching non-stop must suck for employee morale. I know I wouldn't want to come into work and deal with that.
I was really looking forward to walking in stations and all that, but I can live with them focusing on space combat since that is the main driving force behind this game after all. With that said, as much wrong as CCP does, I feel that a lot of the player base isn't helping matters by acting the way they do.
I've said it before, but I don't think CCP is free of guilt. At the same time though, having to come to work and read the forums with endless amounts of people bitching non-stop must suck for employee morale. I know I wouldn't want to come into work and deal with that.
I was really looking forward to walking in stations and all that, but I can live with them focusing on space combat since that is the main driving force behind this game after all. With that said, as much wrong as CCP does, I feel that a lot of the player base isn't helping matters by acting the way they do.
@Tristrix
I would imagine Dust is still going to be released as planned. This whole thing is, hopefully, just related to/affecting Eve.
I would imagine Dust is still going to be released as planned. This whole thing is, hopefully, just related to/affecting Eve.
@Choo Choo
I hope so, I was really looking forward to Dust and dig the (mostly) free-to-play model they're doing and the PSV/PS3 interplay they've discussed. My concern is that one of the most interesting parts of the game was going to be how what happens in Dust impacted the Eve world, but it now it sounds like they might choose to downplay that.
As someone who doesn't play Eve but was looking forward to Dust, that seems a shame. I liked the idea that my actions might influence someone else's game world. I hope they still manage to work that in somehow.
I hope so, I was really looking forward to Dust and dig the (mostly) free-to-play model they're doing and the PSV/PS3 interplay they've discussed. My concern is that one of the most interesting parts of the game was going to be how what happens in Dust impacted the Eve world, but it now it sounds like they might choose to downplay that.
As someone who doesn't play Eve but was looking forward to Dust, that seems a shame. I liked the idea that my actions might influence someone else's game world. I hope they still manage to work that in somehow.
That letter reads very strangely.
It's sort of like:
" I must apologize to the rest of the cult for trying to take you someplace that seemed weird because you weren't ready for it yet. Your faith is just too weak and you are too distracted by the illusions of the outside world such as work, and your families.
But I am absolutely sure that if we work extra hard together on getting you all nice, confused, obsessed, and loopy by oh...maybe 2013, you will, by hook or by crook, willingly trudge out onto the hot dry sand and spend your own money, time, and labor to build my magnificent pyramid with the gilded tennis courts and the rainforest oasis themed olympic sized pool. In the meantime, thank you for your continued submission to the singular way forward via unquestioning obedience to my own ineffable starry wisdom. Free keychains for everyone! Virtual keychains. Only the best for my flock! None of that fake physical material stuff we all chose to leave behind!. "
It's sort of like:
" I must apologize to the rest of the cult for trying to take you someplace that seemed weird because you weren't ready for it yet. Your faith is just too weak and you are too distracted by the illusions of the outside world such as work, and your families.
But I am absolutely sure that if we work extra hard together on getting you all nice, confused, obsessed, and loopy by oh...maybe 2013, you will, by hook or by crook, willingly trudge out onto the hot dry sand and spend your own money, time, and labor to build my magnificent pyramid with the gilded tennis courts and the rainforest oasis themed olympic sized pool. In the meantime, thank you for your continued submission to the singular way forward via unquestioning obedience to my own ineffable starry wisdom. Free keychains for everyone! Virtual keychains. Only the best for my flock! None of that fake physical material stuff we all chose to leave behind!. "
The devs (largely) working on Dust 514 are not the same devs working on EVE. Actually, I think that Dust 514 has a very large development hub in China, who I'm sure could give less than a fuck about what the armchair generals of EVE spend most of their non-EVE time doing. (Complaining about EVE)
It sounds like CCP grew to fast and the vertical management structure of the company caused development bottlenecks because the people with the information weren't free to act in the best interest of the community.
They were so keen on growth in multiple areas and in coming up with cool ideas that they completely flubbed the execution of the concepts - sometimes forcibly adding things before they were ready and pertinent to the game - which lead to a large community outcry as CCP failed to address more important issues that fit with the vision of EVE as a game.
This isn't really uncommon for companies that see massive growth. Toyota saw a similar issue when their recalls hit. They grew too fast and their supply chain grew too quickly to keep up with their quality standards. Thus the recalls and some awful deaths due to stuck accelerators and poor breaks.
I suppose the EVE community should just be glad that, at least for them, none of this was fatal in any way.
They were so keen on growth in multiple areas and in coming up with cool ideas that they completely flubbed the execution of the concepts - sometimes forcibly adding things before they were ready and pertinent to the game - which lead to a large community outcry as CCP failed to address more important issues that fit with the vision of EVE as a game.
This isn't really uncommon for companies that see massive growth. Toyota saw a similar issue when their recalls hit. They grew too fast and their supply chain grew too quickly to keep up with their quality standards. Thus the recalls and some awful deaths due to stuck accelerators and poor breaks.
I suppose the EVE community should just be glad that, at least for them, none of this was fatal in any way.
Good news for us EvE players, this apology wasn't a surprise to me, they have been surprisingly quiet regarding last 6 months. I'm glad their boss took the time to respond, as is proper.
Let's see what they put up.
Let's see what they put up.
EVE is not the game for most people, including myself. I tried, getting a Hulk and a cruiser of some type, I forget which now. But eventually the game just bored me too much.
But for those people that like the game, let them have it fully. The focus should be on what would make them happier. It is a great game for certain people, and I can respect that even if I don't like the game myself.
But for those people that like the game, let them have it fully. The focus should be on what would make them happier. It is a great game for certain people, and I can respect that even if I don't like the game myself.
@ Baby Choo Choo
I would hardly blame eve forum goers, this isn't the first apology or dev blog promising change. I could make up shit and let saps lap it up too.
"We're never going to do microtransactions!"
2 months later
"So we're doing microtransactions, but vanity only"
patch out, internal newsletter leaks detailing ideas for "gold" ammo
"This was internal we don't really mean that sorry"
Leaked email from dev gloating and being a dick that 20 people bought monocles
"We're sorry! Monocles are just special"
dev blog announcing even MORE expensive premium packages coming in the future
I would hardly blame eve forum goers, this isn't the first apology or dev blog promising change. I could make up shit and let saps lap it up too.
"We're never going to do microtransactions!"
2 months later
"So we're doing microtransactions, but vanity only"
patch out, internal newsletter leaks detailing ideas for "gold" ammo
"This was internal we don't really mean that sorry"
Leaked email from dev gloating and being a dick that 20 people bought monocles
"We're sorry! Monocles are just special"
dev blog announcing even MORE expensive premium packages coming in the future
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