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Cave Story WiiWare dev - 'I want to make more Cave Story' photo

Near the end of my TGS time in Tokyo, I was lucky enough to meet up with Tyrone Rodriguez of Nicalis, Inc. You know Tyrone. He's the guy who helped bring Cave Story to WiiWare, and thank the Lord, it sounds like he's still working his connections to squeeze more out of the title.

He and Pixel (Cave Story's creator) have been bouncing a few ideas around; bringing more Pixel games to consoles, putting Cave Story on more consoles, tweaking the pre-existing WiiWare version of the game, and tooling around with the very different, rarely seen Cave Story Beta. Nothing's set in stone yet, but it's all possible. I was excited enough by the sound of that, but then, as I was putting on my shoes, Tyrone showed me something... awesome.

More to come as soon as I get the green light from Tyrone and the gang.








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Popyman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 11:24
Popyman
As long as Pixel is on board, awesome news!!
Wolfy-Boey's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 11:27
Wolfy-Boey
Were they not making some really cool looking Wiiware game called "Night game" or somthing?
Nosgoroth's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 11:31
Nosgoroth
Why is this tagged DSi?
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 11:41
Strandli
As long as they don't make a sequel, it's good enough as it is. No need to ruin the story. But to bring this fantastic title to more consoles (PSN/XBL plz!) would be awesome!

I am currently at the end game of my 3hp Polar Star only run, I've had more hours with this game than any other game I think :) I would gladly pay for it to support Pixel.
DarkTetsuya's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 11:46
DarkTetsuya
Ugh, I'm having a hard enough time finishing the first one (and then there's the bonus level) ... So they've got plenty of time to work on another one.

Besides I'm a little more excited about Nicalis' next offering (which they showed at TGS, but I had to watch the pretape cause they did it at 6AM pacific :( )
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 11:47
PEICanada7
Maybe they should just focus on getting their other games out first. Just saying, its been a long time coming for NightSky. Hell even clones of it have been popping up in the apps store and now that Limbo is out, it kind of takes away from that great visual impact that it had, back when it was announced in Feb 2009.

La Mulana was announced in July 2009, so even that game is well over a year in development now. I'm all for developers taking the time to get it right, but finish what you started, before taking on more things that you just can't handle right now. The games that they're making look great, but out of three games, you have only released one of them so far!
janoDX's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 11:48
janoDX
Cave Story 2 TO THE FUCKING WII OH YEAH BABY!!!
mattrod288's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:04
mattrod288
I would love to see more Cave Story, but not in the hands of THESE clowns.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:12
Jonathan Holmes
@ mattrod- If by "THESE clowns" you mean "Pixel and his friends", then I'm afraid you're out of luck.

It's weird to me that Nicalis gets so much crap from Cave Story fans. Pixel approved everything that went into the WiiWare version of the game. Nicalis was just an extension of his creative will.
tsbaron's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:14
tsbaron
@mattrod288

What do you mean by THESE clowns? You mean the clowns that made Cave Story in the first place?
JHJS4LIFE's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:17
JHJS4LIFE
CAVE STORY 2: THE RECAVENING
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:18
Jonathan Holmes
@ tsbaron- Psychic link GET!
Torzelan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:20
Torzelan
CAVE STORY 2: CAVE HARDER
(yes please!)
Dr-Peace's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:22
Dr-Peace
Is the game even out in Europe yet? This game that was completed many years ago?

If yes, then about damn time!!!

If no, then you should be ashamed...

Anything by Pixel himself is very much worth watching.
Noir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:24
Noir
Awesome, I loved Cave Story. This reminds me though, what happened to La Mulana? Nicalis was involved with that game as well, it was supposed to be on Wiiware, but it's been awhile since I've heard talk of it. It's supposed to be released this year apparently.
neoREgen's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:25
neoREgen
I would love to see a spiritual successor. Different name, different characters, similar gameplay and graphics. Cave Story was awesome, too good to potentially corrupt with a direct sequel.
mattrod288's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:28
mattrod288
Holmes: Cave Story Wii spent years in development hell, got rejected by Nintendo multiple times for being too buggy and incomplete, and finally shipped with a great deal of bugs left uncaught still. The new graphics are fine. The new music does not play correctly due to a bug in the sound engine, so I cannot render judgment on the composition itself. The script is full of typos and awkward translations. Curly Story is a fun novelty but is essentially a sprite swap of the main game. $12 for all of that is a tough sell when the original is free.
Popyman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:33
Popyman
Oh, and by the way, I'd much rather see a prequel. Cave Story has a TON of awesome back story.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:34
Jonathan Holmes
@ mattrod288- I don't know, I had no problem with any bugs or typos, but I know you're not just making stuff up. I'm sure you were annoyed with them, and I don't blame you for having a lack of confidence in Nicalis.

I'll tell you though, Tyrone is extremely passionate about games, and he takes this stuff very seriously. He does not, however, have much money. Like Pixel, he's pretty much making this stuff from his own pocket. Hopefully Cave Story Wii helped him to gain some capital for his next projects. Judging from the looks of La-Mulana, I think that's highly likely.
Butternine's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:45
Butternine
This is good, albeit unexpected news. :)

Especially considering that one of you guys on an earlier Bit Transmission said something along the lines of the creator wanted to keep doing different projects as opposed to doing sequels and/or focus on other things but games. See! I learn stuff from Destructoid every once in a while. :)

Either way, it's fine by me! Cave Story (on the Wii) was one of the more enjoyable experiences of Q1 and definitely a pleasant surprise as I hadn't tried the PC version.
mattrod288's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:48
mattrod288
Holmes: Maybe I've been a bit too harsh. They're supposedly planning on fixing the bugs for the European release and providing a patch for the American release despite Nintendo's harsh anti-patch policy. New Cave Story content is also a tempting prospect I would probably not be able to resist trying. As it stands, I'm annoyed, but they have a shot at redeeming themselves in my eyes.
LK4O4's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:49
LK4O4
You're such a tease, Holmes. "He showed me something totally awesome... but, I can't talk about it yet." C'mon man!

And as for Nicalis, I think we've all just grown really impatient and worried, that's all. They post a bunch of blog posts at once, then they disappear and don't give us any updates for months. They've got Night Sky, La Mulana, Saira (mentioned in one article on IGN, then released on PC, so I don't know if this is still coming to WiiWare), and Nicalis's site had a teaser post of images from Pixel's other games (including Guxt). They've got A LOT of things in the works, and with the loooong wait for Cave Story and a possible new Nintendo console on the horizon in the next two years, I'm really, really scared that some of their games might never come out.

And I think a Cave Story patch would do a lot to make fans chill the eff out.
Butternine's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:50
Butternine
And in light of Holmes's post I'd like to thank Tyrone for all his hard work. I haven't played a game of yours I haven't liked. :)

A new cave story would really be a great thing to see.

(I should have said that last sentence in my last post.)
LK4O4's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 12:51
LK4O4
P.S. Cave Story is one of my favorite WiiWare games. I love being able to play with a D-pad on my TV, and I especially love the new art.
Shad's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 13:15
Shad
I just want cave story wii to be released in Europe :(
tgammet's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 13:29
tgammet
Cave Story on PSN/XBLA go go go!
Lukas Over's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 13:37
Lukas Over
Yeah, what is Nintendo thinking, not releasing the first game in Europe already?!?!? Are they tired of making cash?
Charly Dunst's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 13:45
Charly Dunst
Oh, if Pixel is involved, it get only awesome. This guy is a god of game creating. Not to say, he is the devil, who made me scream like a banshee when I played the hell level... damn, I only made it once to the last boss and he killed me simply like that o_o

Oh, and... hehe... the two rather ambiguous object in the game... lipstick and panty XD Oh Pixel, you naughty XD
sewageking's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 13:56
sewageking
Holy shitting fuck, is Cave Story 2 coming out?

Not that it needs a sequel or anything (Biochock didn't need a sequel either, but that's beside the point). Cave Story surprised me by how good it was, so I had no hesitations to buy it when it came out for Wii. It's really one of my favorite games that I've ever played. But I don't want it to be ruined by a tacked-on sequel. But in the hands of its original creator, I bet that a sequel will be very faithful to the original. From what I've heard, Pixel made Cave Story not for the money, but for the sheer love of the project. I'd be really excited to play any more games that a guy like that could make.
Tombstone's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 14:08
Tombstone
I loved the WiiWare version, it saddened me that there was a bug with the sound that prevented the drums from playing. Otherwise the remixes would be even better.

Now if they re-released it on 360 with fixed sound and gave it online co-op, they could have all my money. And a Cave Story 2 would be superb.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 14:22
pedrovay2003
I only recently got into the PC version of Cave Story, and I absolutely love it. I'd instantly get a sequel.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 14:44
Brian Szabelski
Funny he should say that. Because I would like more Cave Story.
flea friend's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 14:51
flea friend
More Cave Story?

Give him all the money. All of it.
RudyChan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 14:53
RudyChan
MOAR CAVE STORY!!!
Lazerpig's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 14:54
Lazerpig
Cave Story 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Ujn Hunter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 15:54
Ujn Hunter
Uh... why would anyone want to buy your other Cave Story games when you don't even bother fixing the BROKEN Cave Story game you already released on WiiWare? Hello? Anybody home?
themizarkshow's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 17:04
themizarkshow
Someone page Tyrone and tell him to give Jon the green light. I can't be left hanging like this!!! My curiosity meter is off the fucking charts.
flamecondor's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 17:24
flamecondor
You know maybe instead of making another one, how about just trying to make sure everyone in the world can play the first Wiiware one. Us lot in PAL lands are still god damn waiting on this
AussieBen's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2010 18:08
AussieBen
I'd love to give these guys money and buy this game, but they have to meet me halfway here and actually RELEASE it.
Killrig's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 15:04
Killrig
I support this move.
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