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If there's one person who you can trust when it comes to gaming technology, it's John Carmack. In an interview with IndustryGamers, the id Software programming god shared his thoughts on the gaming landscape of the future. A future in which the role of mobile platforms and cloud gaming will be a huge one.

Noting how at the start of Rage's development the iPhone didn't even exist, he shares his thoughts on the current state of mobile devices: "One thing that we hear a lot, especially from our older developers, is, 'I don't spend a lot of time sitting down in front of my 360 or PS3, but I pull out my iPad and play some little game all the time.' It’s a different experience though... it’s a diversion rather than a destination. And while they're certainly powerful enough now to make destination titles, that’s still not really what’s doing particularly well there."

Carmack doesn't think that the surge in mobile gaming will mean the death of the traditional AAA titles though, saying those titles are selling more copies than ever before. As he puts it in perspective: "So it looks like it's parallel growth rather than one stealing from the other. But platform wise, you could certainly imagine a future where, instead of having your console, you have your mobile device and it talks to your TV and when you want the experience on your big screen with the surround sound coming out of there, it’s still on the same device."

It sounds like he'll probably be interested in the Wii U as a baby step towards that future. He went on to talk about how things like how the iPad 2's relative (processing) power is being exaggerated at the moment, but that a future is drawing close where we'll be able to see mobile devices that are more powerful than the current platforms most games are developed for at the moment.

While Carmack sees the landscape of platforms shift in the coming years, he adds that the convenience factor of both mobile devices and cloud streaming services like OnLive will have a future. Although he doesn't know if the current streaming services will survive long enough to see that day, he thinks it is "almost unquestionable" that 5 to 10 years into the future these developments will have a big role to play.

Despite admitting that the quality of the graphics and latency may impact how good games will look, Carmack thinks the convenience factor can make up for it for those people that don't really care about things like graphical fidelity. As he puts it: "You have the completely casual people that have no interest in buying a PS3. And then you've got the hard core people who want to sit down all weekend and stay in a position where they can get 20 hours of gameplay in."

I can't say I really care if I play a game on a console or on some mobile device that also lets me play it on a TV. As long as it controls well, looks great on a big screen, and has games I want to play, I'm fine with whatever the future will throw at me.

John Carmack: 'Unquestionable' That Mobile Will Surpass Current Consoles [IndustryGamers]








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Stealth's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 05:23
Stealth
morons should stay quiet
Commander x202x's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 05:30
Commander x202x
Mobile Devices suck for gaming, Unless your going to play some little game like Angry Birds. I cant see how anyone but casual gamers would think this could go far. Sure its a big market.... but for hardcore gamers? No, no its not. And people who need to play on the go and then plug in their games at home REALLY need to calm down. (I game for 5 - 8 hours each day on average), but do you really need to be playing a game ALL THE TIME? Go outside and look at some trees or something.
MasterBalls's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 05:40
MasterBalls
I don't care about how fun they are in short bursts, iPad/iPhone games are not the future.

And it actually scares me a little when so many developers in a place of high decision and power say they are.

And power doesn't matter. The iPad 2 could have the processing power of a military computer, but it wouldn't matter one iota, as you still play with a touch screen. And while that's perfect for some games like Infinity Blade and Angry Birds, it's utterly useless for the countless console ports (I.e. Prince of Persia, Rayman, Resident Evil) that populate the App Store.

Also, the whole obsession with App Store pricing has devalued gaming as a whole, with people being morally outraged at paying $6 for an excellent Gameboy title. But that's not really on topic.

Either way, I don't like Apple's way of gaming. I see it as a great alternative for certain people, but it hurts me a little to hear that apparently id's developers would go for iPad games. I don't want Doom 4 to be a micro transaction based, on rails shooter with accelerometer controls.

Either way Carmack, STFU and port Doom to the 3DS so it can be another thing I own it on.
pagey123's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 05:47
pagey123
Sounds interesting I deffo think there should be more big titles for the vita and Ds !
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 05:51
Maurice Tan
Carmack is talking about technology trends here, at no point does he say typical mobile games will replace traditional games in the future. People play all kinds of games on all kinds of devices for different reasons; that doesn't mean one subset will dominate or replace the other.
Stealth's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 05:53
Stealth
his death will pave the way to the future.
Wiilover98's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 05:57
Wiilover98
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Scaraba's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 06:01
Scaraba
People who don't know what the hell they are talking about contextually, should do some research. Until then, please. Don't make yourself look stupid. There's a reason why mobile devices are becoming popular for gaming. And rtfa.
Sean Payne's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 06:08
Sean Payne
Seriously first few commenters? Maybe read the article and not just copy paste your "fear of people enjoying themselves on mobile devices" rant? Maybe?
Stealth's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 06:21
Stealth
mobile games arent even as good as original gameboy games for controls,depth,length.

They are things to laugh at.
watermanx's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 06:27
watermanx
"Carmack doesn't think that the surge in mobile gaming will mean the death of the traditional AAA titles though"

*point point
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 06:31
Bakewell
Carmack knows what he's talking about and I respect his opinion.

He may be right, he may be wrong but the utter bullshit of the first 2 commentators has given me a headache. Take your fearmongering Luddite bullshit elsewhere.
Captain Corgi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 06:33
Captain Corgi
Oh boy, Some idiot who's only made like, two good games who hasn't been relevant since the 90s thinks he has an opinion.

zzzzz
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 06:42
Epic-Kx
What Carmack said. I honestly think some people are unable to read large walls of text because they just want to hurry up and sod off somewhere else to kill time.

Honestly, I'm scared of this new generation of gamers. I blame CoD and games devoted to sell only on nostalgia.

/rant

What was I talking about?

Oh yeah, Carmack is Awesome. Y'all bitches hatin.
Sebproductions's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 06:48
Sebproductions
I love RAGE on ios and have put many hours into that ( and I've got a higher score than Jim Sterling ) I can see what he means but I still think consoles will live on strong
SarahDot's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 06:51
SarahDot
Wolfenstein 3D 37 for Google Docs CONFIRMED!
Lelio's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 07:34
Lelio
Yet another post people haven't read properly before posting. Cormack is definitely on the money, but it's been a natural progression since Apple released the iPhone.
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 07:38
GoodGuyA
Mobile devices? I'm not so sure. Call it the cynic in me talking, but the mobile space invites entirely different types of gaming and gamers. Now cloud gaming? I think he's perfectly within reason.
Fugly Duckling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 08:14
Fugly Duckling
Huh? What'd he say? I was too busy playing DeathSmiles on my iPod.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 08:14
KingSigy
I'm fine going all digital. I've been rebuying nearly all of my PC games on Steam just to reduce clutter. It's great.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 08:30
Occams electric toothbrush
Digital for hand helds. Physical copies for consoles. That's a world I can live with. Really though, end of the day, just keep making awesome games and it will work out in the end.
Butternine's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 08:35
Butternine
As much as I love physical media it'll always come to a point where a person has to accept the future, or live in the past. Especially in this day and age where we've progressed farther technologically in the past 100 years than we have the past 1,000. :)

I have no interest in cloud computing, but it's the future. We can either accept that and play the games of 2020-2030, or we can reject it and stick to the games that have been amassed so far. The future isn't going to stop and wait for you.

As for mobile gaming, he's completely right. They've always been diversions, meant to be enjoyed in short bursts. Not much else to say there. :) There's more than enough room in this world for both to exist. The only thing I think we need to worry about is too many people releasing too many games to the point where they drown each other.
Shinta's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 08:59
Shinta
I still don't buy it. Consoles won't disappear.
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 09:15
amtalx
Carmack is right on a lot of levels. Too bad only half the people have the attention span to actually read the WHOLE article.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 09:23
Daxelman
This was about as bad as that Ubisoft article a few days ago.

One track mind, us gamers.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 09:24
Bakewell
@shinta

I'm guessing you didn't read the entire article either. Carmack says....

"It’s a different experience though... it’s a diversion rather than a destination."

Nowhere in the article does Camack say this mode will replace what so many dearly cling to.

Bless you kids with your short attention spans and knee jerk reactions.
LittleBigD's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 09:32
LittleBigD
He's right. You can already see it happening. And a system I can play at home and on the road is exactly the kind of thing I would be looking for.

Just leaves me some buttons!!
meteorscrap's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 09:39
meteorscrap
@Shinta

Consoles will most certainly disappear. It's the triple-A titles which won't.

Consoles are not triple-A games. They are the most convenient way, at the moment, to experience those games. When techology reaches a certain point, a dedicated console is going to look just as outdated as a cell-phone which just sends and recieves calls and texts looks today.

In ten years, you're going to have a iPad-sized tablet with a processing power equal to, or greater than the highest-end computer today. Instead of hooking cables up to your TV, you'll hit an option on your tablet and sync your HDTV to the thing, picking up a wireless controller, and then you'll play Gears of War 7 or Halo 10 on your TV, streamed from the tablet.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 09:41
Jon B
He said this a while ago, and I laughed.
Guy was actually right. Handhelds are on the increase, and consoles are slowly losing relevance to both handhelds and PC. Mainly because this generation's consoles shifted focus half way and the hardware is laughable in 2011, leaving them with few benefits. For one, my 360 hasn't been switched on in over a year now, since there's simply nothing to do with it unless I want Kinect shitware that simply doesn't appeal to me.
Carmack is pretty rarely wrong about this stuff.
knutaf's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 11:31
knutaf
Carmack knows what he's talking about, as is often the case.
Wrath and Pride's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 15:19
Wrath and Pride
I've never been one for mobile gaming, but I know I'm one of the few.
M47R1X's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2011 15:23
M47R1X
That is one smart muthafugga. I'd rather he be wrong, tho.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2011 14:59
Tubatic
lol reading
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