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Spread the word. Boycott. These last few weeks have shown the immense power of the united internets.
Okay I am a huge Capcom fan, even still after the whole Megaman debacle that went down (still sore over that), but I was still planning on buying their new titles such as Asura's Wrath and Dragon's Dogma. But I too simply just cannot get behind SOPA, and thus I will not help support a company that is backing them. Normally I am not one to do the whole boycotting routine but I think in this case I'll make an exception and forego those games and instead get titles by other publishers instead. Oh well.
Damn straight. Stop buying their games. Stop helping them take away your rights and censor the internet. This is what this bill supports. Censorship. Do what I do, create a list of all the developers and publishers supporting this bill. Hang that list up on the wall like I did earlier this week.
When you want to buy a new game, look at this publisher/developer and compare it with your list. If the company who makes and publishes the game you want to buy is not on the list, go nuts and buy it new. If the company IS on the list, wait one week and buy the game used. You get to play the game you wanted to play, and all you had to do was wait an extra week, save $10, and not support anti-consumer practices.
When you want to buy a new game, look at this publisher/developer and compare it with your list. If the company who makes and publishes the game you want to buy is not on the list, go nuts and buy it new. If the company IS on the list, wait one week and buy the game used. You get to play the game you wanted to play, and all you had to do was wait an extra week, save $10, and not support anti-consumer practices.
Last year, no problem. However fighting games are currently my life and I can't miss out on SFxT... dammit... I'll buy it used :)
Well, there goes my new purchase of Asura's Wrath. I think that we should let Capcom know directly that we legitimate gamers, and Internet users at large, do not support this.
I appreciate your enthusiasm, Conrad, and I wish you the very best in your efforts.
Though speaking from experience as one who tried to avoid purchasing games with online passes, there are more than enough people that just don't care about the issue because "I'm buying the game new anyways, this doesn't affect me and will never ever in the history of the universe affect me" that the companies that have the power to cease these bullshit practices and even more bullshit hardcore fornication of our digital rights won't - Because they make money.
And that's what matters to them. Not us, the gamers. Not the people that give them the money. Just the money itself. They don't care where it comes from, and the only way to really show these companies that what they're doing is wrong is to stop supporting them entirely.
For what it's worth, I'm with you. No purchases of anything from a SOPA-supporting company. I'd add up how much that is... but frankly it would just make me say "What the hell, I spend how much on this each year?"
Though speaking from experience as one who tried to avoid purchasing games with online passes, there are more than enough people that just don't care about the issue because "I'm buying the game new anyways, this doesn't affect me and will never ever in the history of the universe affect me" that the companies that have the power to cease these bullshit practices and even more bullshit hardcore fornication of our digital rights won't - Because they make money.
And that's what matters to them. Not us, the gamers. Not the people that give them the money. Just the money itself. They don't care where it comes from, and the only way to really show these companies that what they're doing is wrong is to stop supporting them entirely.
For what it's worth, I'm with you. No purchases of anything from a SOPA-supporting company. I'd add up how much that is... but frankly it would just make me say "What the hell, I spend how much on this each year?"
Electronic Arts had better back away from SOPA as well. Preferably before March because I would really really REALLY like to NOT have to consider SOPA in my decision whether or not I purchase it.
*reads Cataract's comment* AWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww mannnnnnnnnn. Especially since I was the first to start using that around here ;D
Seriously though, I joined the Video Game Voters Network because they fought for Freedom of Speech™ when it came to legislation against videogames and to now support SOPA... it just doesn't make sense.
*cancels VGVN membership*
Also, lol Crapcom doesn't have anything coming out in 2012 that interests me. Asura's Wrath and SFxT will both be rentals, at best.
Seriously though, I joined the Video Game Voters Network because they fought for Freedom of Speech™ when it came to legislation against videogames and to now support SOPA... it just doesn't make sense.
*cancels VGVN membership*
Also, lol Crapcom doesn't have anything coming out in 2012 that interests me. Asura's Wrath and SFxT will both be rentals, at best.
Well, thank God KOFXIII is out. Otherwise, I'd have no reasonable alternatives to Capcom's fighters, which are all I care about from them at this point.
Then again, I bet SNK would support SOPA too, considering piracy made them go bankrupt back in the day. In any case, the only thing that could make me consider going back to Capcom at this point would be a new Darkstalkers game - otherwise, I can live without them.
Then again, I bet SNK would support SOPA too, considering piracy made them go bankrupt back in the day. In any case, the only thing that could make me consider going back to Capcom at this point would be a new Darkstalkers game - otherwise, I can live without them.
I'll be enjoying all if Sony's and Nintedo's products used. Everything else I'll just boycott. I've got plenty of gaming fish in the sea to play lol. Then again though Nintendo or Sony don't see much money from my to begin with.
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And we're better than that." - Adam Savage
And we're better than that." - Adam Savage
I'm so glad SNK-Playmore and Atlus aren't part of the ESA.
This boycott shall be massive.
Capcom, Sony, and everyone else in the ESA are such bomberclaads.
This boycott shall be massive.
Capcom, Sony, and everyone else in the ESA are such bomberclaads.
Well said Conrad, I particularly appreciated your note that:
"I can't support them in their desire to see this piece of legislation become law. But they aren't shrinking away from their association either. When the representative could have simply declined to offer any comment at all, they supported the group effort and that takes conviction."
Which is an excellent point. I can respect them for being honest about it at least, even if I can't, and don't, agree with their support. Operation Raccoon City was the only title I was seriously considering purchasing brand new anyway, so now it'll all just be pre-owned if at all.
"I can't support them in their desire to see this piece of legislation become law. But they aren't shrinking away from their association either. When the representative could have simply declined to offer any comment at all, they supported the group effort and that takes conviction."
Which is an excellent point. I can respect them for being honest about it at least, even if I can't, and don't, agree with their support. Operation Raccoon City was the only title I was seriously considering purchasing brand new anyway, so now it'll all just be pre-owned if at all.
So if everyone is buying it used/pre-owned....who were the original owners¿
Who purchased it new for you to get it used........conundrums and riddles.
Who purchased it new for you to get it used........conundrums and riddles.
I'm up for a boycott. I mean, the ratio of games I bought this year and games I beat is a big shift and I have like 10 games that could keep me busy for a while. Go Jim and go everyone who's with us!
The only thing that would make me shower Capcom with loads of money this year are Breath of Fire and Mega Man Legends-related stuff. And seeing how none of that is happening....yeah.
If you told me when Mega Man 10 had just come out, that Capcom would alienate all it's fans by making bad decision after decision, well I'd be pretty surprised. These 2 years have been interesting to say the least.
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I suppose I have secretly been boycotting Capcom for years; I haven't bought one of their games since Mega Man 9 and don't plan to start now - regardless of their support for SOPA.
I admit I cringed when I first saw that list of ESA supporters because I knew many of my favorite devs were on that list. To stand up for what I believe in regarding this matter was going to take considerable effort for me.
But, I'm with you and every other gamer who wants to speak their mind on this. My backlog is ridiculous enough as it is. Fuck new games from ESA-supported companies. That means you too, Capcom.
Bonus for me. I can boycott these ESA-backers while at the same time supporting my local "mom & pop" gamestore and their outstanding used game selection.
If any of these ESA-lovers ever call a pest control guy for a bug problem, I hope he shows up with a bazooka.
But, I'm with you and every other gamer who wants to speak their mind on this. My backlog is ridiculous enough as it is. Fuck new games from ESA-supported companies. That means you too, Capcom.
Bonus for me. I can boycott these ESA-backers while at the same time supporting my local "mom & pop" gamestore and their outstanding used game selection.
If any of these ESA-lovers ever call a pest control guy for a bug problem, I hope he shows up with a bazooka.
I'm in. I'm already pissed off with them as it (monster hunter on the 3DS? THE HELL!), and this is the last straw.
But seriously, between Sony and, well, all the shit they've been pulling, Activision-Blizzard and their statements on D3, SquareEnix, and now this SOPA thing, I'm tempted to go outside. Anyone know if riding a bike is fun? Ness seemed to enjoy it.
But seriously, between Sony and, well, all the shit they've been pulling, Activision-Blizzard and their statements on D3, SquareEnix, and now this SOPA thing, I'm tempted to go outside. Anyone know if riding a bike is fun? Ness seemed to enjoy it.
I don't know how much this is indicative of Capcom as a whole, and I don't want to jump to any conclusions. However, Capcom hasn't exactly been winning popularity contests for a while now, so the actual effect of their SOPA support on my purchases is quite small.
@EggmaniMN: I understand your perspective, though I can't say I entirely agree with it. It's an absolutely pure form of protest that you advocate and a good one, but while I don't have any intention of purchasing used (and would never advocate piracy -- that's why we're here in the first place), I don't have any problem with the companies in this industry having the knowledge that I (or anyone) wants to play and enjoy their games. Just so long as I'm not putting cash in their pockets to do so.
If a company that supports the ESA makes a game you want to play - can't you just buy it used or rent it from Gamefly/Blockbuster/local shop? Seems to me that's the way to have your cake and eat it too in this situation.
And yet despite all of the solidarity on this and similar forums, Capcom will be just fine no matter the outcome of this SOPA business. It's a shame that we just aren't big enough in the grand scheme of things as long as there are willing customers anywhere. Doesn't it suck that the smartest people are the ones with the least say in anything?
TROLOLOLOL Capcom does it best.
then again this might be Capcom USA majority of the decision to support it.
i sometimes buy past capcom games(retailers like in amazon) but games like Megaman X Collection, Megaman Anniversary aren't being sold by them anymore and 3rd part retailers are selling them on their own.
so in a sense im not really supporting capcom at all so yeah Fuck em.
also they'll probably be a Super SF X Tekken, RE Operation RC Gold,
would love to support Asura's Wrath developers(cyberconnect2) and Dragon's Dogma(made by Hideaki Itsuno, Hiroyuki Kobayashi of DMC2-4 game)
and lol Conrad also doesn't mention DMC XD
that game really is forgotten for the most part.
then again this might be Capcom USA majority of the decision to support it.
i sometimes buy past capcom games(retailers like in amazon) but games like Megaman X Collection, Megaman Anniversary aren't being sold by them anymore and 3rd part retailers are selling them on their own.
so in a sense im not really supporting capcom at all so yeah Fuck em.
also they'll probably be a Super SF X Tekken, RE Operation RC Gold,
would love to support Asura's Wrath developers(cyberconnect2) and Dragon's Dogma(made by Hideaki Itsuno, Hiroyuki Kobayashi of DMC2-4 game)
and lol Conrad also doesn't mention DMC XD
that game really is forgotten for the most part.
I really hate the way Capcom utilizes the industry, they're just as blatantly obvious about being in the industry for nothing more than "in it for the money" as Activision, and it makes me sad.
Well... I'm Canadian, but seeing as how eff'd up this bill is and seeing how Canada will most likely be these companies and organizations second target.. It's REALLY tempting to stop supporting these companies.
Thinking about it, it would probably save me a lot of money really.
At least Bethesda and Steam (to my knowledge) don't support SOPA. Guess I'll give them money..And maybe Activision...maybe.
Thinking about it, it would probably save me a lot of money really.
At least Bethesda and Steam (to my knowledge) don't support SOPA. Guess I'll give them money..And maybe Activision...maybe.
Well I wasn't looking forward to any of their games other than Dragon's Dogma. Well, consider that a used buy (if even that).
And for EA...? Argh, that's gunna be tough.
And for EA...? Argh, that's gunna be tough.
Boycotting the whole industry would never work. Kinda like the guys on Reddit were thinking in regards to politicians, gamers should really take one publisher and make them the example.
We know who the biggest problem children are right now; Sony, EA, Capcom and THQ. These are the companies that get just plain giddy at the thought of piecemealing content, stomping on consumer rights and choice.
Personally, for me, I don't need any of their games this year. That said, however, I take comfort in the knowledge that if SOPA does pass that it will have its ass kicked harder and faster by the Supreme Court than the California Law.
We know who the biggest problem children are right now; Sony, EA, Capcom and THQ. These are the companies that get just plain giddy at the thought of piecemealing content, stomping on consumer rights and choice.
Personally, for me, I don't need any of their games this year. That said, however, I take comfort in the knowledge that if SOPA does pass that it will have its ass kicked harder and faster by the Supreme Court than the California Law.
Damn right. Good for you Conrad. It's nice to see that some people have a spine. Same goes for you, Jim Sterling. People need to get the word out there.
Woo boycott! I have a backlog so big this will probably end up ok for me until all this blows over (note if it doesn't blow over this boycott will be permanent rather than for 1 year).
Also someone should start compiling a list of companies NOT on the ESA. I know I can still buy Valve, PC indies, Grasshopper, Atlus, Level 5, Codemasters, Activision, Vivendi, Lucas Arts, 2k Games, Bethesda, Rock Star and Obsidian. Anyone major I'm missing off that?
Personally sad to see Nvidia on the ESA considering I was going to be buying their 2012 offerings for my next build. Also while I'm primarily a PC gamer, I will miss a few Sony and Nintendo exclusives, but I can always borrow them from friends rather than pay those companies money, so no biggy.
Also someone should start compiling a list of companies NOT on the ESA. I know I can still buy Valve, PC indies, Grasshopper, Atlus, Level 5, Codemasters, Activision, Vivendi, Lucas Arts, 2k Games, Bethesda, Rock Star and Obsidian. Anyone major I'm missing off that?
Personally sad to see Nvidia on the ESA considering I was going to be buying their 2012 offerings for my next build. Also while I'm primarily a PC gamer, I will miss a few Sony and Nintendo exclusives, but I can always borrow them from friends rather than pay those companies money, so no biggy.
Oh wow, Capcom. It's like you genuinely want to be rid of me. Back when MML3 was cancelled I decided to boycott Capcom with the exception of any Mega Man products. I then went on to buy all the Mega Man stuff I had been putting off like the Battle Network Official Complete Works, Mega Man MegaMix 1-3 and GigaMix 1, (which was all that was out at the time)and the Zero/X1 Armor X D-Arts figures.
Well there's still more to get and more coming, but I guess I'll just put a stop to that right now. I'm done with Capcom until they make some serious changes.
Well there's still more to get and more coming, but I guess I'll just put a stop to that right now. I'm done with Capcom until they make some serious changes.
I personally like SOPA. Not that I agree with it, but let's be honest. They try and try to pass legislation. SOPA isn't even the only piece. The USG believes it controls the DNS root servers, which were trusted to the US because of it's policies on free speech (ie, it was deemed the safest country to house critical infrastructure). The passing of SOPA doesn't just hurt the websites. It will fracture the registries and registrars as the international community protects itself from the USG. Holy crap, I'm a digital anarchist! haha
I stopped supporting Capcom games in like, late September because I saw them starting to turn to the dark side.
Glad they're not making that choice any more difficult. x)
Glad they're not making that choice any more difficult. x)
I guess I'm turning to used games. If they want my money then they must withhold support of sopa. Fuck sopa and it's supporters.
Well fuck me sideways. I'm all for these folks being able to protect their IP, but giving the government broad sweeping power to censor the Internet just isn't the way to go about it.
Sony's been on my shit list for a long time, someone should write a book about Sony's history of dubious anti-consumer tactics and their fucknuttery in general.
I guess it's time to add Capcom to the list.
Sony's been on my shit list for a long time, someone should write a book about Sony's history of dubious anti-consumer tactics and their fucknuttery in general.
I guess it's time to add Capcom to the list.
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