Quantcast


Capcom: SFIV's Abel could have been a little girl photo

See that? That's Abel from Street Fighter IV. Or it was, anyway. This week's update to the Super Street Fighter IV dev blog gives us, among other things, a look at what the Frenchman could have been if the team had stuck with the original concept. 

Battle Planner Taisaku Okada says that Abel was intended to convey the idea that the weak could defeat the strong, and was thusly conceived as "A small Judo character, who could be mistaken for a girl." 

I dunno about "mistaken," that just looks like a girl to me. Either way, even a trap or reverse-trap character would still have been more interesting than the Abel we actually ended up with. I still think Abel is one of the most boring characters in all of videogames, let alone the Street Fighter universe. Which version do you prefer?

LAUNCH GALLERY (1 IMAGES)
Photo









More gaming stories around the web. Got news? Submit yours to tips@destructoid.com



Post a comment! You can also post a photo below:

Comment with Facebook





Click connect and comment instantly!

Comment with Dtoid





New? SIGN UP - it takes 5 seconds

58 comments | showing # 1 to 50
prev
next 50 comments

Gobun's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 19:43
Gobun
Definitely the girl
Overcrowd's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 19:44
Overcrowd
Agreed, fuck Abel. Also, for that matter, fuck El Fuerte and Rufus as well.

Three awful characters and one decent one (C. Viper) that doesn't even make up for it.
Bishna's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 19:45
Bishna
i hate abel, he throws me alots
Askherserenity's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 19:46
Askherserenity
This one. Abel is super boring...although I use him the most in SF4.
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 19:47
Danmartigan
Wow the girl design is infinitely cooler than a douche in a Karate gi + shorts.
Technophile's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 19:48
Technophile
I'm all for that version. Abel is a putz.
Vedicardi2's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 19:50
Vedicardi2
totally a girl ):
HuttyLoca's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 19:53
HuttyLoca
Trap FTW
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 19:54
Naim Master
I'd hit it furiously.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 19:57
Xzyliac
Does it have a hole? Okay. I'd hit it.
Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 19:58
Diverse
Haha, everything is better with little girls!
J Murda's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:01
J Murda
definitely prefer abel. that chick's design doesn't match abel's moveset. they'd have to give her a moveset like makotos and I would rather have makoto. Abel has an interesting playstyle so i'm glad they added him to SFIV. here's to Abel and Makoto both being in super SFIV.
Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:01
Puppy Licks
Hey I thought Abel was cool, to me his design was simple and effective.
Do people complain that Ryu's outift is too boring? Of course not, because it suits him as a fighter. So why should Abel be any different?
Guncannon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:03
Guncannon
I guess every good fighting game needs a Bridget.
Solidus187's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:07
Solidus187
THANK GOD this didn't happen.
Modern Robot's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:10
Modern Robot
Why not more blatantly stereotyped characters? Like a midget who uses capoeira, cus like, he's small, and it's funny, because capoeira is for tall people. Ha ha! Capcom, you wily bastard...
DrRockso's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:17
DrRockso
@Modern Robot

Maybe the concept of judo eludes you.
Nicojay2's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:17
Nicojay2
Many of Street Fighters characters have a straight forward on nonsense design, and I think this makes them more iconic. Abel works as a he with sensible boring dress sense.
grisser's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:21
grisser
Even with bias toward burly muscular men, I still think this version here is better. :D
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:24
RAB
I'll admit, Abel as a character never sat well with me until recently.
"Amnesia".. Really Capcom?

But then I realized that when you get used to playing him he's easily one of the most fun characters in the game, due to the constant use of his mixups and mindgames and his impressive to look at combos. Particularly the Abel vs Abel matchup is SUPER fun if both players have a general understanding of how to use him and utilize his rolls and BnB combos/mixups.

Similar to the way Sakura turned out, most of her game is also in the mindgames and mixups. Somebody who really knows how to use Sakura can really mess your shit up. Crouch fierce to EX shunpukyaku, jump in the air and hit them with like light kick or something, which resets them and makes them land standing on their feet. It makes it so once you both hit the ground (if you did it right) it's 100% ambiguous which side Sakura landed on, leaving the opponent in a 50/50 situation on which direction to block, to expect to tech a throw, etc. And if they guess wrong then its crouching jab, crouch fierce, ex shunpu allll over again and that will probably lead to stun.. etc etc etc. These mixup character styles have always been in the Street Fighter series. I mean look at Urien, Yun, and particularly Balrog in Super Turbo.

In the end I do like the way Abel turned out, and I hope they expand on his relationship with Charlie and Guile.
Though I hope to high hell that Charlie doesn't make it in/waste a spot in SSF4.

Girl Abel is pretty cute tho.
even if she is a boy.
no homo.
mr spooky's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:27
mr spooky
put her in Super street fighter 4 as Abel sister in exchange for juri character.
mourning orange's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:32
mourning orange
@MR SPOOKY

No. There will be NO exchanging anyone for Juri! Not on my watch.
Camiwaits's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:35
Camiwaits
It's a trap!
casualweaponry's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:40
casualweaponry
Brb, going to write a Bridget/Concept Abel/ Ash Crimson /fiction.
Xhumation's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:41
Xhumation
This is a much better design.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:43
Brian Szabelski
"I still think Abel is one of the most boring characters in all of videogames, let alone the Street Fighter universe."

That's Ryu. TYVM.
Modern Robot's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:43
Modern Robot
@DrRockso

My rage was more directed at terrible characters in 4, namely Rufus. I understand the concept of judo.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 20:43
Monodi
Abel seems too generic for me, this version would have been a neat addition.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 21:00
Topher Cantler
"Ryu"

Pay attention to your storylines, kids. Ryu is awesome. Always has been. As for his design, think about his origins. All the characters in the first Street Fighter (no, not SFII) were boring, it's not poor Ryu's fault. He's THE original character, he's allowed to have a boring outfit.

RAB, stop giving away my secrets.
electric goldfish's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 21:06
electric goldfish
I think I'd hate Abel less if he/she looked like this. *nods nods*
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 21:10
Los255
Makoto's manboygirlishness > This

This is pretty cool though.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 21:20
manasteel88
the gi has been overused completely in SF. I think Abel looks horrible in his his design and outfit overall (especially his alternate (are there a lot of French wrestlers?)). This character had more potential, but less weight behind the throws.

of course I don't really like the design of any of the new characters so that could also sway my opinion. I'm sure much like SF3, I'll learn to love the design but right now I think all 4 look awful with abel looking the best just because of his conservative design.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 21:32
Jonathan Holmes
I totally prefer this Abel. I love it when little kids kick the crap out of people.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 21:35
Tubatic
Abel grew on me, once I figured out he was Makoto-esque (or atleast, -esque compared to what I knew of Makoto in my short tiem of playing and enjoying her)

That said, bring on Makoto.
Jesus H Christ's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 21:40
Jesus H Christ
I like Abel, but I like that character design too.
FistfulOAwesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 22:07
FistfulOAwesome
This character is uninspired and completely misses the point of SF. Uninspired because the way he's (?) described he sounds like a reverse Makoto (Makoto is mistaken for a boy), and missing the point because the most classic SF characters have been pure, clean fighters. Sure, they are capable of 20 foot diagonal leaps and some of them can harness their spirit energy to into physical attacks, but that's because SF is about fantastical representations of fighting/fighters. This girl ain't it. She was scrapped because she quite simply sucks.

Abel needs more defending that he gets. Along with El Fuerte (minus that chef bullshit) they're the only half decent designs in SFIV. With a little more work they could have been part of II and not had anyone bat an eye. But we get people who want SNK to turn into SF because they think it's "boring". "Boring" apparently creates characters who stand the test of time. I'd like V to be "boring".

P.S. "Boring" means inspired design that has a respect for actual fighters (like II and the better I,EX, and III characters).
FistfulOAwesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 22:08
FistfulOAwesome
Correction: I meant "people who want SF to turn into SNK", rather than the other way around I accidentally sent it as.
dwolfwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 22:18
dwolfwood
Not sure if anyone noticed, but you can see upper boob if you look, verifying that it's a girl(hopefully.)

That said, I would have liked the character model. Abel is cool, but so is this character. Probably would have a somewhat different play-style at the very least due to collision detection.
Ubersuntzu's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 22:26
Ubersuntzu
I like this version a lot more. Although I suck so bad with Abel I probably still wouldn't use him. A better idea would be to not make 2/4 new characters silly joke characters so that we wouldn't have to pine about what could have been.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 22:29
Brian Szabelski
Sorry, Toph, Just not a Ryu fan, so I had to make my usual witty reply.

Oddly, though, I find Ken to be awesome. Can someone explain that for me, please?
shinigamiDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 22:31
shinigamiDude
Looks more like Edward from Full Metal Alchemist.
SF always need more girl since everyone's Ryu Clones.
ydarkage's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 22:55
ydarkage
Shit! Why Abel??
MatCD's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 22:55
MatCD
Cute, but I agree that Capcom should just put Makoto in SSFIV.


@NihonTiger90

Ken wears red and has does an extra roll on his back throw. *explained*
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 23:04
Gen Eric Gui
I like the -concept- of the current Abel's design, and it fits the story better then this design, but speaking purely from an aesthetic point of view I have to go with the girly-boy version.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 23:31
Topher Cantler
Just to be clear, when I said "boring" I was just referring to his look and story. Abel plays decent enough. He's just got a generic look about him and a backstory I thought was stupid.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 23:44
Phoenix Gamma
Most boring character in videogames? Oh, I can think of a lot worse. And it's not like I play SF for the story. Abel's a beast in combat.

Still makes me wonder if the Abel we have now is actually a chick, cause that image had me fooled.
DustyBlue's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/13/2009 23:45
DustyBlue
They should have stuck with that. Abel is so dull.
SASUGA RIVAL's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2009 00:07
SASUGA RIVAL
I prefer Trap Abel to the Cho Aniki Abel we have in SFIV.
Airbr1dge's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2009 00:19
Airbr1dge
Yaaa in guys? That's a dude. Not a girl. It's supposed to be a femboy or whatever they call it.
RaelXX's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2009 00:27
RaelXX
The Abel girl is much better. I also need more Makoto:
prev next 50 comments

Comment with Facebook





Click connect and comment instantly!

Comment with Dtoid





New? SIGN UP - it takes 5 seconds

Comments policy

Destructoid is an open discussion community. You don't need to "audition" to post a comment - just speak your mind. We respect differing opinions on the site, so have at it. Be smart, funny, insightful, clueless, or cute -- but back it up with substance. Keep your cool, keep it fun. We only ask that you act respectfully and above all: don't be a troll and ruin it for everyone else. Don't bring down gamers or we'll, you know, gently shoot you in the face and stuff you into a flaming mailbox. Each comment is your opportuntity to make this community awesomer. Is that even a word?

Avoiding the banhammer only requires common sense: spamming, trolling, racism, NSFW stuff, and other forms of sucking will not be tolerated. If anyone is griefing please report abuse. Be good. Don't suck!