You know what Capcom needs to do? Breath of Fire VI. Your fighting games (that aren't named Street Fighter) are fine but overdone.

I fear for Dragon's Dogma though. I feel like these bad sales only makes the possibility of a new Breath of Fire that much slimmer.

I wont support a company who exploits evil dlc to the max

I'll be waiting to see how Dragon's Dogma will perform commercially.

I hope this opens capcoms eyes about their shitty treatment of their customers.

Serves 'em right. Hell, let them go bankrupt and have to liquidate their IPs to someone who will actually use them properly.

O hey, maybe customers have realized buying the first version of their fighting games is a retarded idea.

good. thats what they get for taking their sweet time to release monster hunter over here, not to mention them taking a steaming shit on megaman. on disc dlc, turning resident evil into a generic dudebro shooter. no breath of fire, no nothing. whomever is making these decisions at crapcom should be taken out back and shot in the face.

Boo fucking hoo.

I'm fucking shocked and proud. Voting with your wallets folks. *stands and claps

I hope this doesn't stop the production of future fighting games, namely DarkStalkers.

People always SAY that they're sick and tired of such pathetic nickle and diming DLC tactics, it's nice to see them finally taking the appropriate response. They'll only stop doing this kind of shit if people stop buying games associated with such tactics.

I like to think that maybe consumers sticking up for themselves and refusing to support on disc DLC contributed to less than projected sales. Not that 1.4 million really sounds that bad, and I'm sure plenty of people will still either buy the vita version, or pay for the 20 dollar unlock key, so the pessimist in me doesn't imagine that capcom will learn any lessons from this. Maybe just maybe.

Great news about UMvC3. I just hope Capcom understands WHY it failed.

I really doubt Capcom understands why they're losing money. Most likely they're going to blame their problems on "sequelitis," as they like to put it, and add even more Disc Locked Content until they finally bite the dust.

gee capcom, could this perhaps be as a result of suddenly becoming massive arseholes who abandon their popular franchises in favour of evil corporate shenanigans? naaaaah.

I didn't figure UMvC3 would sell that badly. That says something when your fans won't buy your game even with a discounted price tag. Time to reevaluate, Capcom.

And now they'll use this as an excuse for still not making Mega Man Legends 3.

Gosh, you'd almost think players were waiting for the "Super Street Fighter XXX Tekken Arcade Complete Special Game of the Year Complete Limited Edition" version.

I'm really glad to see those games doing poorly, hopefully Capcom will figure out they can only fleece us so much.

Maybe Capcom shouldn't try multiplying franchises.

Honestly, Capcom NEEDS to address their stance on DLC if they hope not to alienate their audience even further.

For me, the rage all started with the cost of extra COSTUMES in SFIV. Capcom is charging for something that is not only standard in pretty much EVERY other fighting game (and in MUCH greater quantities), but they're charging as much as the WHOLE DAMN GAME retail to get one more costume per character.

As much as having to pay for extra costumes annoys me, I might have actually purchased some of them if, A) they weren't in arbitrarily designated character packs, and B) they weren't SO DAMN EXPENSIVE.

Basically, they wanted me to pay $5 for one costume for a character I play and four others for characters I don't give two shits about.

Oh, and they're all already on the disc.

It's a stupid idea in the first place, coupled with stupid implementation, stupid pricing, and a stupid "whatever" attitude from Capcom.

Thinking about it, I haven't actually bought a Capcom game since SSFIV. Doesn't look like anything in the near future is going to change that either.

Maybe, just maybe, this will raise enough eyebrows within their company that we might see some changes in how they've been doing things. 13.8% is not the kind of drop in profits you can just ignore. They need to lay off the fighting games for a bit, stop the on disc DLC, and breath some life into some of their neglected IPs that fans have been asking for (i.e. Breath Of Fire, among other things). Also, they really need to release Dragon's Dogma for the PC market as well, and I'm not just saying that because I want it. It would definitely boost sales.

Here's the thing... and I don't wanna be the guy that pisses in everyone's corn flakes but I think it needs to be said. It's not the people that make the decisions that bug you guys that are going to suffer because of this. It's the artists and the coders and the QA testers and the various other expendables that are going to suffer because of this.

By no means am I condemning any gamers that didn't buy Capcom games. You're absolutely in the right for that and I commend you for standing up for yourselves. I just think while we're gleefully masturbating over our successes, we should at least have a little bit of regret for the casualties.

I dunno, this is all very "Oh Danny Boy" of me, I'm sure, but I've lost a job or two and I know how it feels. Just thought it was something that should at least be said.

And capcom will say it's because the fighting scene is dying, not that they are killing it (which they are).

^^^What tekbunny said.

...Im pretty sure artists, coders, and Q&A staff dont get royalties from each unit sold. They have salaries based on the agreed contract but thats just ya know... me talking out of my ass.

Bad guys eating their own shit pie?

Sadly, Capcom will probably just try to chalk this up as "People must be getting tired of fighting games!" instead of addressing the problem of making their customers feel like they are being milked.

Browneye, from what I can tell from the employment section of Capcom's website, they appear to hire employees, not contract talent-for-hire. That means they stick around from project to project. That means a 13.8% drop in profits will, if patterns hold, result in a few layoffs, which was the point I was trying to make. Now, if you happen to know that Capcom DOES contract talent-for-hire, please share that information. Otherwise I do believe that you are, in fact, talking out of your ass.

BTW, it's QA Staff, not Q&A. It stands for Quality Assurance, not Question and Answer. Quality and Assurance wouldn't make any sense.

serves you right.

though unfortunately they'll keep doing this over and over until they get beat on their heads.

probably RE6 and Dragon's Dogma are the only games im exicted from, not even sure if i want to buy the "Super" version of SF X Tekken.

RE:ORC selling more than SFxT is quite surprising. Be interesting to see what the sales figures on the DLC for each game is too (ORC's being an actual download and not just locked on the disc; though ORC's campaign DLC was very clearly made as part of the on-disc content and then held back).

Tristrix, thats nice and all, but if a company suffers because of stupid choices by high-level idiots, then of course everyone suffers. Recognizing that doesn't really mean anything and isn't something we, as consumers, should really care about. This is how business works, thanks for letting us know?

"Just thought it was something that should at least be said."

You thought wrong.

I really don't understand how SFxT got messed up this badly. I played SFxT at PAX, and I was certain it was going to be the biggest fighting game of the decade.

Somehow, Capcom managed to take an amazing core fighting system and surround it with soundless online, on-disc DLC that hackers get to use, console exclusive characters, no way to turn off gems, no way to turn off quick combos...

It's infuriating. This game could have set the world aflame, and they ruined it.

Sorry you feel that way Mithrot. You shouldn't care as a customer, you should care as a human being. These are fellow human beings with families, and it sucks that they have to pay for things out of their control. There's nothing you or I could have done for them of course, but I don't think it's unreasonable to spare a moment's thought for them and hope they land on their feet.

We hear enough about the working conditions of a lot of developers and we hear a lot about them losing their jobs lately. Its enough to at least deserve our sympathy and respect for people that work hard without a lot of recognition.

What do you know? Bite the hand that feeds you and you will have no food no more.

It's like, Business 101, or something.

Looks like the Capcom Boycott Brigade is having an effect on Capcom's sales. Regardless, we're still not getting MML3 anyways.

1.4 million isn't bad. 2 million was a questionable sales figure. People were already worrying about the game well before release, with reports like the Pandora system not being well designed and concerns over the gem system. 2 million became even more questionable right before release, when people were hearing enough stuff to start to make them angry. And once the game was out, there was enough bad news and bad press to hurt it. (Bugs, the gem system, PS3 exclusive characters, later Vita release getting a bunch of DLC characters for free, the sheer extent of the DLC-ification of the game, a feature being cut from the 360 version, all of the completed on-disc DLC (particularly in light of a feature being cut from the 360 version), etc.)

I've heard Capcom has sunk a lot into Dragon's Dogma, to the point that if it doesn't do amazing, it will be a failure.

All in all, I wonder if Capcom is slipping back into its practices of around a decade ago, where it was constantly overestimating its sales predictions. Back then, the company came close to killing itself budgeting games around sales predictions that sometimes were ludicrously high, devoid of common sense. (Well, it wasn't just overestimating sales that put them in danger. They were making business decisions that ranged from questionable to damaging as well. Then again, one could argue that SFxT was filled with questionable to damaging decisions....)

1.6 million units in Japan alone for Monster Hunter 3G? Man, imaging if THEY HAD FUCKING RELEASED IT ANYWHERE ELSE.

Seriously, I know I'm late to this whole Monster Hunter bandwagon, but for whatever reason... be it the lack of games, or my love for Nintendo handhelds, I desperately wanted to buy Monster Hunter 3G. I'm so miffed about it, I may just forgo getting 4!

I blame piracy and used game sales. (No(t) really.)

And you can only imagine in what shape Capcom would be in if they released MML3. [Shivers] I imagine a rift to hell would open in Capcom HQ and a bunch of Lickers would burst out and violate everything.

Did I mention I love Resident Evil: Revelations? Really great game actually.

Ughhh, the fact RE:ORC got over a million makes me sick.

If this doesn't harm the rank-and-file at Capcom too badly, this shouldn't be seen as bad news for Capcom. Rather, it is a learning experience. The lesson? Make more games like Monster Hunter, which is to say, games with loads of content, none of which is DLC of any kind.

I agree with Holmes on the ending opinion, UMvC3 should of released Q1 2012 (we would of Megaman X, Gene and a balanced Wesker)and I agree while finished that Capcom should of saved the On-Disc DLC for patches (or even better just release it). I do think UMvC3 and SFXTK are great games, but I also think Capcom needs to handle the marketing and post launch marketing of their games a little better.

I really do hope Capcoms evil ceos get the message. The more bs you force on consumers the worse your business does.

Glad to hear. I stopped buying Capcom games when they decided to treat their customers like shit. Happy with this result.

Digital.Rights.Managment. - or better known as "DRM" is and has become one of the filthiest words within the industry. Why? Because, large companies such as Capcom have taken it, and wrought a devastating swathe of hatred with it. To most consumers "DRM" might as well mean - Digitally Removed Media - because, that is exactly what such companies have done to the product. Which the consumer purchased, and owns. Whether it was outright and brand new, or through a secondary market, or even gifted, handed down is not the question. Ownership is, and the right to the "full" product. Again something of which these over-inflated egotistical companies have taken away from us, and even further demand that they are "entitled" to even more money from us the consumer. Face the facts they have an excuse for every tribble & tribulation (and - yes, I did use a Star Trek reference.)

Honestly though. When I hear about them losing out on money I do not give a bleeding hippies heart. If the industry wants my sympathy they need to come out of the closet, and admit to their failings, and shortcomings. Otherwise a fuck I will not give.

As an anonymous user once said -
"It is bad when a person who pirated the said product has more rights, and ownership, and control over said product; then the consumer who legitimately purchased the product."

It is even worse day though wehn I have to side with, Mr. Notch. What a horrid day indeed.

Aside from ORC selling more than it ever should have, glad to see people are finally not eating capcom's shit. Guess people are starting to notice it.

I just do not understand the reasons for treating there faithful fan base so bad. I would think by seeing what their community has to say they would know that there sales dropping is their own fault. Not to mention that many people (including me) wanted Resident Evil 6 to go back to its roots but instead they have a multiplayer complex that a lot of single player games are starting to have.

Everyone that didn't buy these games should go buy King of Fighters XIII. It's the proper way to do an apology for releasing a shit fest of a game.

*end plug time*

Re ORC sold that 1.7 million.

Sweet mother of Christ, that broken, buggy ass piece of shit sold that much and still no word on fix.

Console gaming is dead to me and fuck everyone who bought that piece of shit(including myself).

@kyousuke

master ra-

also, stop buying capcom games if you haven't yet. sure, it's sad that people will be losing jobs like tristy said, but really, fuck em.

Yea that's the real shame here, people will lose their jobs but the execs won't, but yes I do agree with the general sentiment of the posts here, Capcom needs to stop this excess of DLC shit and they need to stop with all the fighting games.

I kinda hope the FG scene crashes again, I've never a bigger group of elitist, neckbearded stoner shut ins than the FG community.