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Ah, that famous vitriolic gamer apathy is setting in. I forgot what a sin it is to provide coverage on a constantly developing topic for too long. Attention spans of magpies, some of you.
I honestly would really like to see every member of the ESA break ties with it, what the fuck is the point of the ESA? They've become a dangerous organization at this point and seriously needs to just die the fuck off already. They don't speak for the entire industry and really need to stop pretending they do.
The topic isn't constantly developing at all. You're trying to shove it down our throats. I get enough SOPA sensationalism from my twitter feed, which, coincidentally, is just a fancy RSS feed grabber which is getting all the SOPA sensationalism from various other tech sites.
As much as SOPA sucks, we don't need it shoved down our throats.
You're like the atheist who won't shut up until everyone else is. We get it, there is no God™, now STFU until there's a new development that isn't just another company basically saying; "we didn't say that about SOPA! *limp wrist*"
As much as SOPA sucks, we don't need it shoved down our throats.
You're like the atheist who won't shut up until everyone else is. We get it, there is no God™, now STFU until there's a new development that isn't just another company basically saying; "we didn't say that about SOPA! *limp wrist*"
Hey guys if you want to stop being informed of shit that matters you can try one of the many, many other game sites. I'm sure they're more than willing to give you that comfortable blissful ignorance that you so seek.
Seriously? Until SOPA is obliterated, we absolutely need to keep it in the forefront! It's the "oh, enough already", apathetic response that you people are now giving that the SOPA supporters are counting on!
Rammstein: I disagree. Of the twenty-six posts published since 8am today, three of them have concerned SOPA. You could easily skip over them.
I get accused of hyperbole a lot, but I *wish* I was as capable of it as some of you guys.
I get accused of hyperbole a lot, but I *wish* I was as capable of it as some of you guys.
These posts are people that give a fuck. If you don't give a fuck, read the MANY other posts not about SOPA. We have loads of them. Way more than the ones we have about SOPA.
@Rammstein
Yeah you are totes right brah, we should all just bury our heads in the sand and hope this shizzle just blows over!
Yeah you are totes right brah, we should all just bury our heads in the sand and hope this shizzle just blows over!
SOPA? how bout that NDAA?how that shit passed is beyond me
whole fucking government has gone to shit imo.
whole fucking government has gone to shit imo.
@John B
Amen brother
@Jim
Fuck these jack offs, it's an important issue, keep doing what you're doing. Not that I need to tell you that or anything. Just know that not all of us are apathetic ball sacks.
Amen brother
@Jim
Fuck these jack offs, it's an important issue, keep doing what you're doing. Not that I need to tell you that or anything. Just know that not all of us are apathetic ball sacks.
but seriously attacking a publisher who says they didnt say anything about sopa is going over the top
I wish companies would do this big press release on their stance on the bill. That way it won't led to confusion among gamers and the general public. But I guess they don't want to because they don't want to lose costumers like GoDaddy.
"but seriously attacking a publisher who says they didnt say anything about sopa is going over the top"
You're right. I should be attacking it for not putting Mega Man in a fighting game.
You're right. I should be attacking it for not putting Mega Man in a fighting game.
hahaha, ofcourse, capcom testing the waters to see what everyone would say in response and it fired back! now they suddenly haven't ''said'' anything.
Svensson is high on my list of one of most disgusting people in the industry. like....maybe 3#... or 2#, not sure.
Svensson is high on my list of one of most disgusting people in the industry. like....maybe 3#... or 2#, not sure.
I see the Capcom-Unity thread was locked right after Svensson's post, so that no one could comment on his response.
Like his second point being that you shouldn't take the ESA's stance on SOPA as Capcom's stance, while at the same time saying that the ESA represents them in legislative matters. SOPA is a legislative matter. The ESA is representing Capcom. Therefore the ESA's stance is Capcom's stance until Capcom either separates from the ESA or opposes it.
Like his second point being that you shouldn't take the ESA's stance on SOPA as Capcom's stance, while at the same time saying that the ESA represents them in legislative matters. SOPA is a legislative matter. The ESA is representing Capcom. Therefore the ESA's stance is Capcom's stance until Capcom either separates from the ESA or opposes it.
"You're right. I should be attacking it for not putting Mega Man in a fighting game"
Now there is something i can get behind lol
Now there is something i can get behind lol
My issue isn't with the frequency of SOPA related posts. It's with the quality of the post itself. I follow Capcom's official twitter feed so I read the story when it 'broke' and after reading their official statement, I took away from it the following;
"We didn't say that." A real non-answer answer. Not 'front-page worthy'. If I would've known that the Public Relations version of "nuh-uh!" was news-worthy, I would've submitted the tip myself.
I still like Jim more than I dislike him, I just didn't think their statement was ripe for another anti-Crapcom snarky front-page post. I was half-expecting Jim to simply make a scathing remark on his twitter feed.
"We didn't say that." A real non-answer answer. Not 'front-page worthy'. If I would've known that the Public Relations version of "nuh-uh!" was news-worthy, I would've submitted the tip myself.
I still like Jim more than I dislike him, I just didn't think their statement was ripe for another anti-Crapcom snarky front-page post. I was half-expecting Jim to simply make a scathing remark on his twitter feed.
Capcom is the company that put constant-connection DRM on Bionic Commando 2 on PSN. When PSN went down for a month unexpectedly, and completely stopped PAYING customers from PLAYING the game they BOUGHT - Capcom's official response was: "Gamers can go fuck themselves. You were idiots for buying our products in the first place and now you're bigger idiots for thinking we give a shit that all PSN versions are unplayable...Fuck you. - Capcom." It's more ridiculous that little retro games like BC2 are what PS3 peeps NEEDED while online AAA games were unavailable.
And should you dare visit the Capcom forum to complain about not being able to PLAY a game you BOUGHT, you see a genius strategy of blowing off the audience while pretending to give a damn. Over-defensive Capcom fanboys are made moderators and tasked with locking any criticism that Capcom wants to ignore, mostly about DRM or comments about "voting via wallet." Meanwhile anytime there's a positive development Sven takes the credit. So Capcom conveniently gets to blame rabid fanboys instead of company-men for ignoring paying customers.
And should you dare visit the Capcom forum to complain about not being able to PLAY a game you BOUGHT, you see a genius strategy of blowing off the audience while pretending to give a damn. Over-defensive Capcom fanboys are made moderators and tasked with locking any criticism that Capcom wants to ignore, mostly about DRM or comments about "voting via wallet." Meanwhile anytime there's a positive development Sven takes the credit. So Capcom conveniently gets to blame rabid fanboys instead of company-men for ignoring paying customers.
@kenu12345
Jim is attacking Capcom for being cowardly assholes who try to boast a lack of opinion (to avoid angering gamers) while nonchalantly remaining a member of the ESA which supports SOPA.
Jim is attacking Capcom for being cowardly assholes who try to boast a lack of opinion (to avoid angering gamers) while nonchalantly remaining a member of the ESA which supports SOPA.
Rammstein, I don't have your RSS or twitter feed. Getting too much SOPA news sounds like your problem.
@Baines
Oh if only our government were being run by corrupt robots, we could just feed them that logical paradox Capcom just tried to feed us.
Of course with our luck they would either have paradox absorbing crumple zones or just be as thick as Wheatly.
Oh if only our government were being run by corrupt robots, we could just feed them that logical paradox Capcom just tried to feed us.
Of course with our luck they would either have paradox absorbing crumple zones or just be as thick as Wheatly.
I hate Jim. He is a douchebag. BUT, some of you are being real tools about SOPA. This is HUGELY important to you and your life simply because you are posting on the internet RIGHT NOW. You DO need it shoved down your throats, EVERY SINGLE DAY until it is defeated by people getting so sick of it they rise up and tell their politicians where to shove it.
So Jim, even though I think you're a giant troll and the biggest tool on Destructoid, PLEASE don't stop covering this constantly and without interruption until SOPA is a distant memory.
So Jim, even though I think you're a giant troll and the biggest tool on Destructoid, PLEASE don't stop covering this constantly and without interruption until SOPA is a distant memory.
Rammstein: I am sorry you feel that way, but we got quite a few tips about it, so people did think it was worthy of a post. Not YOU, maybe, but others did.
And I think every publisher who wants to hide behind the ESA should be brought up, if only for the fact that it indicates just how nervous it seems to make companies when they're asked to comment on SOPA. These companies are so gung-ho to talk about piracy killing jobs and the industry, but it can't seem to come out one way or the other on this issue?
I just think that's worth bringing up. I am very sorry to those who do not agree, but again, these posts are easily skippable. SOPA is in all caps, and is in every related headline -- very easy to identify and skip over. You don't *have* to get involved with this at all, though I'd obviously love for everybody to be.
And I think every publisher who wants to hide behind the ESA should be brought up, if only for the fact that it indicates just how nervous it seems to make companies when they're asked to comment on SOPA. These companies are so gung-ho to talk about piracy killing jobs and the industry, but it can't seem to come out one way or the other on this issue?
I just think that's worth bringing up. I am very sorry to those who do not agree, but again, these posts are easily skippable. SOPA is in all caps, and is in every related headline -- very easy to identify and skip over. You don't *have* to get involved with this at all, though I'd obviously love for everybody to be.
"You're right. I should attack it for not putting Mega Man in a fighting game."
HA! Seriously. Get your priorities straight gamers. Or go away if shits too real. I would prefer to be informed about how my rights are being affected then who is in Capcom Franchise Wank 27.
HA! Seriously. Get your priorities straight gamers. Or go away if shits too real. I would prefer to be informed about how my rights are being affected then who is in Capcom Franchise Wank 27.
@Chewy Dinosaur
Really? Your just seeing this now lol
What is this, like the 3rd or fourth capcom/sopa post in 24 hours from Jim? I get it, Capcom supports sopa, or doesn't, or whatever!!!1!1!!
95% of the games I play are fighting games so capcom ain't going anywhere for me! For a sec I thought this was a sfXtekken post, you know a post dealing with actual gameplay or something crazy like that, but nope :/
@ Neo Gio, I agree with this guy.
Really? Your just seeing this now lol
What is this, like the 3rd or fourth capcom/sopa post in 24 hours from Jim? I get it, Capcom supports sopa, or doesn't, or whatever!!!1!1!!
95% of the games I play are fighting games so capcom ain't going anywhere for me! For a sec I thought this was a sfXtekken post, you know a post dealing with actual gameplay or something crazy like that, but nope :/
@ Neo Gio, I agree with this guy.
@Rammstein
Not everything needs to be strictly "news".
What Jim is doing is shining the spotlight brighter and brighter on these fuckhole companies with every bullshit move they make, non-answer or not. The idea is to be persistent and keep the fire under them. The second outlets like Destructoid let up and start allowing some things to slide unreported, these companies and their non-answers have won.
Not everything needs to be strictly "news".
What Jim is doing is shining the spotlight brighter and brighter on these fuckhole companies with every bullshit move they make, non-answer or not. The idea is to be persistent and keep the fire under them. The second outlets like Destructoid let up and start allowing some things to slide unreported, these companies and their non-answers have won.
@kenu12345
No it isn't. ALL members of the ESA support SOPA as long as they're members. It does not matter what they say it is nothing but PR fluff. Until the ESA drops support or these companies start leaving it they all officially support it, period.
No it isn't. ALL members of the ESA support SOPA as long as they're members. It does not matter what they say it is nothing but PR fluff. Until the ESA drops support or these companies start leaving it they all officially support it, period.
And believe me if Capcom gave a shit about gamers, they would have updated BC2 to remove the constant-PSN-connection DRM the MOMENT PSN was back online. Now you got Anonymous threatening Sony again. You know Capcom hasn't even given one thought that their game could be unplayable AGAIN for another long stretch. They don't care. I'm one to reward good companies and great games with day-of new purchases - but I'll NEVER buy another new Capcom game. Used, sure - because I'm going to show them the same appreciation they show their paying customers.
Oh yeah guys, god forbid Destructoid cover something that actually matters. I'm not saying that they don't normally cover it, but anyone bitching about this coverage obviously doesn't get how big of a fucking deal it is.
Here's a hint: if you want to be as uninformed on this issue as the general populace, don't read this article. Boom.
Here's a hint: if you want to be as uninformed on this issue as the general populace, don't read this article. Boom.
@Rammstein
I would counter that spineless jelly backpedaling PR doubletalk should always be front page news (not that a blog really has anything other than a front page). Otherwise Spineless jelly backpedaling PR doubletalk is rendered effective.
Expose it for what it is and its rendered null and void.
And at the end of the day these companies aren't going to magically change their ways because their hearts magically grew three sized and they saw the error of their actions. Its going to be because people called them on their bullshit and shamed them into doing the right thing, that and the fear of losing customers.
I would counter that spineless jelly backpedaling PR doubletalk should always be front page news (not that a blog really has anything other than a front page). Otherwise Spineless jelly backpedaling PR doubletalk is rendered effective.
Expose it for what it is and its rendered null and void.
And at the end of the day these companies aren't going to magically change their ways because their hearts magically grew three sized and they saw the error of their actions. Its going to be because people called them on their bullshit and shamed them into doing the right thing, that and the fear of losing customers.
Jim, I don't want it to get lost that I *do* feel that SOPA is a big issue. It *GREATLY* affects me as well as 99% of the people who frequent and visit this site.
THAT SAID;
• It was heavily implied that Crapcom supported SOPA.
• Crapcom comes out with official statement saying; "We didn't say that!" while not out-right decrying SOPA in any way.
Is capcom still the bad guy? Yes. But no more or less than yesterday*, so I didn't think the new post was necessary.
(*Okay, maybe a little more bad, since they've decided to insult their clientele by avoiding taking a stance on such an important issue.)
Does that clear things up a bit?
THAT SAID;
• It was heavily implied that Crapcom supported SOPA.
• Crapcom comes out with official statement saying; "We didn't say that!" while not out-right decrying SOPA in any way.
Is capcom still the bad guy? Yes. But no more or less than yesterday*, so I didn't think the new post was necessary.
(*Okay, maybe a little more bad, since they've decided to insult their clientele by avoiding taking a stance on such an important issue.)
Does that clear things up a bit?
This is a gaming blog that posts about the current events of gaming news, why are you people mad about a CURRENT EVENT THAT JUST HAPPENED. Capcom put out a statement on SOPA, this is RELEVANT to THE GAMING INDUSTRY, since this is a GAMING BLOG, I for one, am not surprised to see it here, and am glad to be informed on where publishers stand on the issue. What the fuck do you people want? Review scores to get pissed about and that's it? How do you guys put up with this shit every day?
@Derangel: Eh, I kinda have to disagree. Would I like companies to leave the ESA over the SOPA issue? Absolutely. That would be a powerful message to have sent. But being a member of the ESA has plenty of benefits too. I would understand a company disagreeing with one aspect of a groups policy while not sacrificing their membership. That's a business-motivated decision made by an organization which has investors and responsibilities. I get it.
But that's just the problem with SOPA, isn't it? Do you really want the kind of control that a law like SOPA contains given to an body that doesn't answer to you and me, but for the bottom line of its investors? I don't.
This isn't an emotional or artistic issue for me. I think Capcom and the ESA members at large make great games and I hope they continue to have wonderful success as game makers. But they're also business people. As a "game maker" but what you make is profit. Nothing wrong with that, just don't tread on me.
But that's just the problem with SOPA, isn't it? Do you really want the kind of control that a law like SOPA contains given to an body that doesn't answer to you and me, but for the bottom line of its investors? I don't.
This isn't an emotional or artistic issue for me. I think Capcom and the ESA members at large make great games and I hope they continue to have wonderful success as game makers. But they're also business people. As a "game maker" but what you make is profit. Nothing wrong with that, just don't tread on me.
Keep on them Jim! Don't let them hide fom this. These fuckers need to be held accountable for their actions. I'm sure they are hoping you and some other websites (with the courage to call them out) will just let this go. Please don't Jim. Stay on these publishers daily. Sooner or later they will either have to defend their decisions or see the light and withdrawal their support.
Keep fighting the good fight. I certainly appreciate it! If some do not, it's only because they are too young and immature to know better. They don't even teach constitutional rights in schools anymore.
Keep fighting the good fight. I certainly appreciate it! If some do not, it's only because they are too young and immature to know better. They don't even teach constitutional rights in schools anymore.
They (Capcom) (in my opinion) should have used (many) more parentheses (also known as curveboners) in their statement.
(Curveboners.)
(Curveboners.)
The irony here being that should SOPA pass, exactly this sort of article calling a bullshit move would get Destructoid vanished overnight on a slew of BS claims. Which would robably take a year+ and a mountain of legal fees to fight.
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