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Capcom boss expects next-gen consoles in two-three years photo

Most developers and publishers have entrenched themselves in expectation of a lengthy generation, with many believing we still have another five years of Wii, Xbox 360 and PS3  to go. Capcom Europe boss David Reeves, however, is expecting the next generation a little sooner than most. 

Reeves things that we'll see new consoles within "two to three years" and adds that "All the first-parties have got to be working on something," he said. "The tricky thing is when do you put a stake in the ground on technology? That's the problem. You can be waiting a few extra months to implement something, but you've got to set a date to go with a certain chip at a certain point otherwise you're going to miss the key milestones."

While it does look like this generation will be one of the longest, Reeves might not be too far off the mark. Everybody knows the benefits of being "first" of a generation, so it wouldn't be surprising for one company to try and take advantage of the current "long generation" complacency to get their machine out first. The question is, who will be Han Solo and shoot first? 

Who do you reckon will officially usher us into the next generation? Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony?

Capcom: new tech is a stop-gap to next-gen consoles [GI.biz]








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Pushtrak's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:23
Pushtrak
Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony... Or, perhaps will there be a new challenger?
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:24
Strandli
Well, Nintendo could (and should) come with it's next console any time now. But that would hardly start "the next generation", that would maybe be current gen.
But I think Microsoft would make a new Xbox before Sony releases a PS4, but I also think both of them want to keep the current gen going as long as they can.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:25
Xzyliac
Well for one we already know the Big 3 are cooking something up. They always are but I mean we've seen partnerships being made that signal that.

So the question is merely when and I'd guess 3 years for the HD consoles and 2 for Nintendo. It just "feels" right I guess. I've nothing to back up my claims. Just speculation.

Maybe I should get into research analysis. /sarcasm
Methos's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:25
Methos
Xmas 2013. That's when I believe these new consoles will be released.
LaMorteSicca's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:26
LaMorteSicca
microsoft with their hunk of space poop design for the seventwenty.
Globox82's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:28
Globox82
i hope at least 2013, we dont need new gen any time soon. nintendo is prob first since wii is already outdated, then ms and last Sony. considering how much money sony lost i doubt they are in any hurry to release ps4
Popyman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:31
Popyman
I hope not.
rockydil's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:34
rockydil
Han Solo didn't shoot first. He was only defending himself, as Lucas intended.

/anguish
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:37
Super Drybones
no. Nintendo is makig too much money. Sony just started making money, perhaps microsoft.
Rhuno's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:40
Rhuno
I don't know, that's a tough call. I don't really think the 360 or ps3 are really showing their age yet. If I were to hazard a guess, I would say Nintendo would release a new console first, but given the Wii's sales, they don't really need to.

I think in 2 or 3 years we'll start hearing about the next wave of consoles, but I don't believe they'll be hitting the market at that time.
tirkaro's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:44
tirkaro
Nintendo could probably afford to pump out a WiiHD at a gain by now.

Especially since their new handheld is about as powerful as their home console, which is just embarrassing.
Paustinj's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:45
Paustinj
Microsoft will come out first, followed by Nintendo, then Sony.
JulianProxy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:45
JulianProxy
Sony: because they said they wouldn't. It wouldn't be right if they stood by their original claim!
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:47
Strandli
If Kinect fails, and the "relaunch" of the 360 is unsuccessful, they will be pushing out a new console before Sony. Nintendo could make a new WiiHD any time now, but they don't really need to. They got the casual market right where they want.
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:56
Electrium
I would agree with that prediction, to be honest. Nintendo / Microsoft will be briefly talking about new hardware at next year's E3 / TGS, with Sony following the next year.
ZeeJayTL's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:57
ZeeJayTL
I dont want to think about it!

But if I were to guess, Microsoft and Nintendo within two months. Sony laughs (until they see the sales) and Sony within two years of that
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:59
mrplow8
I can't wait to play Super Street Fighter IV Turbo on the next gen consoles!
Sid Of Bee's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 12:59
Sid Of Bee
I always thought the 10 year plan was bullsh*t. It's like a Mexican standoff... first one to pull out a new console kickstarts the next generation and the others must follow suit or be left in the dust. I bet Nintedo comes out the gate first.. they need to take the leap technologically more than the other two.. and when they do, Microsoft will be ready to follow suit and I think (even though I hope not) Sony won't be as ready, but will be forced to enter the next gen and may suffer worse next gen than they did in the transition to this gen...
Sid Of Bee's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:00
Sid Of Bee
I always thought the 10 year plan was bullsh*t. It's like a Mexican standoff... first one to pull out a new console kickstarts the next generation and the others must follow suit or be left in the dust. I bet Nintedo comes out the gate first.. they need to take the leap technologically more than the other two.. and when they do, Microsoft will be ready to follow suit and I think (even though I hope not) Sony won't be as ready, but will be forced to enter the next gen and may suffer worse next gen than they did in the transition to this gen...
Glimpse Dog's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:00
Glimpse Dog
@Standli

Aye but they might do what they're doing with the DS / 3DS. Keep one console that's still selling like hotcakes for most people, and continue to support it. Then bring out a new console for the core gamers and support them both. So they would have:

- DS and Wii for Casual gamers/most people.
- 3DS and new console for Core Gamers.

Whether this would be a brand new console or a Wii HD is still anyones guess. If it's a Wii HD that obviously delay the launch of a full successor. So it could be wii successor in 2012 or Wii HD in 2011 and Wii Successor in 2013/2014 (alongside Sony).

Regrading Microsoft, I think we'll certainly see them bring out a new console before Sony. Whether Kinect flops or not, I still think it'll have a 2012 launch. Most likely it will have Kinect built in, the same way the xbox 360 had live built in from launch, after it was introduced on the original xbox.

Sony... I think they'll be last to the game. They've only just started making money on PS3 hardware, and apparently there's a lot of juice left in the CELL. They can't really afford to bring out a new console just yet. 2013 at the earliest.

My 2 cent.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:05
mrplow8
"Next Jen" is Hugh Hefner's pet name for his future girlfriends that he'll start dating after his current girlfriends reach the old age of 25.
Cowpie's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:08
Cowpie
That's funny cuz Sony JUST started making money on PS3 hardware after bleeding for 4 years.
kainsec's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:13
kainsec
I expect Microsoft to go first. They have a track record of putting out buggy and faulty systems first and then denying there is a design flaw. Yea I went there RRoD (still love my 360 despite its glaring design flaw) and Vista.Then I expect Sony with Nintendo going last due to its more money than god.

Can't say I want a new generation though. Production costs are already too high and the quality of games hasn't risen to match which makes it hard to shell out $60. Plus i stopped caring about Nintendo years ago even this years E3 left me with meh feelings about them so nothing they do could get me excited.
walnut100's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:16
walnut100
The next generation of consoles will all depend on how well Microsoft and Sony's motion controllers sell. Even so right now I think Microsoft would be the one to push out a new console first considering they're losing marketshare to Sony right now. Nintendo isn't going to push out a new one anytime soon because the Wii's still very profitable to them right now
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:23
pedrovay2003
Yeah, Nintendo's going to need one soon, I'm thinking.
Videodrone31's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:30
Videodrone31
@walnut100

M$ was losing market share to Sony. With the release of the newly remodeled 360 I think next months numbers will show a different story. In my town anyway those things are selling out everywhere. Hell I picked up an elite just cause of the $249 price tag with 2 games. Gave my son my pro model.
Bearses's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:30
Bearses
@nintendo peoples: sure, nintendo needs it the most, but they're also the most stubborn.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:31
Monodi
Honestly, I am not sure hwo the rhythm of consoles is now. It feels like this generation broke the 5 year cycle. (... although he have been on it for like 4 years)
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:36
PEICanada7
Nintendo will ride this gen out for two more years and they'll get the jump on the next gen, by being out a whole year before the other two. Kind of like what they're doing in the handheld space right now. I think they caught Sony off guard with the 3DS announcement this year and as such Sony won't be ready with the PSP2 until next year.
SKSith's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:48
SKSith
NOO!!! this story is causeing a pain in my wallet.
keptsimple's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:51
keptsimple
"Everybody knows the benefits of being 'first' of a generation..."

Is it really a benefit? Looking back at the last few generations, a lot "first of a generation" consoles ended up losing out:

6th gen - Dreamcast was a huge seller at first but burned out quickly upon the release of the PS2

5th gen - 3D0, Jaguar, and Saturn all came out before the PS1 and N64; all of them fizzled

4th gen - TurboGrafx was the first and wasn't a huge success in the US; SNES came out last and was the biggest success of all 4th gen systems

Only the current generation has bucked the trend with the Xbox 360 performing so well.
Rhuno's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 13:54
Rhuno
@SKSith

At least you're getting a big head's up; start saving. :)
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 14:08
pokota
@keptsimple
I agree, the benefits of being the first of an arbitrary next generation is debatable. Much of what people believe about consoles "winning" and "losing" exists only in the minds of the consumers and the gaming media. With any product, you measure it's profitability from the entirety of it's lifespan, not because you've sold more or less units than a competitor has, especially when the launch dates are so far apart. You'll often read about the PSP dying, for example, even though it had been outselling the Xbox 360 for much of this year (prior to the 360 relaunch).
OWENR22's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 14:09
OWENR22
I reckon Microsoft will unveil a new console next E3, maybe Nintendo, too. It probably won't be released until at least a year after that but I think we'll see it. And I think Sony will release the PS4 within 18 months of Microsofts next console. I know they always bang on about the PS3's "ten year lifespan" but I doubt they'ed want to be too far behind MS.

That's my best Michael Pachter impression. Now wait a couple of years for all this to be wrong.
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 14:16
GoodGuyA
I think that Sony's interactive division will be absorbed by Microsoft to create a two console war in possibly 3 years time.
sakesushi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 14:16
sakesushi
Nintendo in 2 years, Microsoft in 3, Sony in 6.
Samwise's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 14:45
Samwise
kainsec, you say vista, but then MS pulled it out perfectly with windows 7, so maybe that's an indicator of higher QA levels now ...
D-503's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 15:03
D-503
Uck. I don't look forward to that.
Jekl's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 15:13
Jekl
Remember also that almost 4 years after the release of the PS3, SONY is STILL selling the PS2, I imagine the PS3 will have no trouble being a money maker for SONY in the long run.
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 15:59
Kyle MacGregor
I just bought a PS3 a year ago. I don't want to think about needing to upgrade.
akeso's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 16:03
akeso
Once AMD and Intel finish making cheap 8 cores we'll see the next generation.
When that is... maybe 3 years away knowing how things progress and where they are now after the release of the consumer 6 cores.
faultymoose's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 16:30
faultymoose
Not soon enough. If it weren't for the slow uptake on PS3's, I'd feel like the next gen should be late next year. Paying $500 every 4 to 5 years for a console isn't bad. It's much, much better than the PC hardware race used to be, and with backwards compatibility on software (which one would hope should continue), then your games library takes much longer to become redundant. But the games are already starting to look dated, and technology is stagnating with the death of PC gaming.

That said, prepare for much less AAA new-IP next generation. It's already prohibitively expensive for most small to medium studios to produce AAA games (or rather, games with AAA production value), and the big publishers still pretend it's 2001 with the cash they're willing to invest and the returns that developers make (unless you're one of the big dogs). Not that they can be blamed, given consumer trends to stick to a handful of franchises, or the pervasive lack of production value in most games. Really: most games are just SHIT.

Until games have the same market share as film, smaller, more 'indie' games that break out of that blockbuster formula, won't be financially viable. But until they're financially viable, small to medium developers will keep trying to take on the big dogs, keep losing cash, and keep producing half assed crap that can't compete. Of course there are exceptions, but most of the time, this holds true.

Looking forward to Call of Duty #89.

If games cost $20 instead of $100 (or whatever your national equivalent to Australian dollars is) then I think more games would sell more copies. Once a games console is as common an appliance as a DVD player, of course.

Next gen will likely be the trial by fire that only the big dogs will survive unscathed, because most developers just don't have the money to produce the level of content required to compete. I doubt corporations like Activision will be complaining, though.
the7k's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 16:33
the7k
"Everybody knows the benefits of being 'first' of a generation"

What are those benefits, exactly? I've always heard that more often than not, the first to come out in a console generation is at a horrible disadvantage.

Just look at... well, almost every Sega console. As awesome as they were, Sega always operated at the disadvantage of having all of their competition outclass them in hardware in little more than a year after they launched.
bickle's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 16:58
bickle
@the7k: Just look at the current generation and the massive boost that MS received by being out so much earlier.
thegaze's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 16:58
thegaze
I don't see anyone coming out with a new console until 3D tech is a little more common. That being said, Nintendo might have the upper hand and be the quickest to release.
neoREgen's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 17:43
neoREgen
The benefits of being first don't apply right now. Recession.
PS360 looks good enough for most people. They're both getting motion controllers. People HATE spending money right now. They're going to bitch about the price of motion controllers for the consoles, as they are with games, and because the consoles are updatable via software- there isn't much incentive for someone to go with something bigger and better right now.

Nintendo is going to rock the house with 3DS, and it'll cement 3D technology as something real.
3DTVs aren't going to kick off any time soon as far as reaching real market saturation.
And Blu-Ray barely has.
By the time Blu-Ray is inexpensive enough to be the most common form of movie-media, people will have already gotten over their digital fears and everything will shift to cloud networks in which you own the content but don't have to store it yourself- you can just call it whenever you like.

3DTVs have another ten years to go before the tech is acceptable and affordable to the average consumer. Graphics technology's next leap is attempting to jump into the 3D realm, but not many people will be able to take advantage of it on PS3. Microsoft probably won't even bother going that route- they'll just watch Sony hemorrhage money trying to satisfy an audience that doesn't exist in enough capacity to make the extra effort profitable.
And 3DS will be king in the mean time.

Then what will the next home console be?
Probably something from Nintendo. That has an actual harddrive and real internet capabilities. And they'll make it when it's cheap enough to jump slightly ahead of the current generation's graphics capability while still profiting from console sales and having it affordable to the public. They're the only company that can safely do Everything they are currently doing Better with a drastic enough increase in quality to merit a new purchase.

Although, once/if Kinect and Move tank, Microsoft and Sony may still find themselves yearning to participate in the movement race- and they might realize their only chance to do it is by releasing the tech with an entirely new console that has a significantly more friendly branding.


tl;dr: I know, right?
Glimpse Dog's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 17:50
Glimpse Dog
We're not in a recession. People will always spend money on entertainment. No one is forcing people to buy the consoles.
Captain Highwind's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 17:59
Captain Highwind
Shouldn't we be cloud servicing by now? Fuck expensive consoles.
Maxwell Roahrig's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 18:36
Maxwell Roahrig
But is it really necessary? We haven't even reached the limit of what the PS3 and 360 can do, so why should first parties already start development on new consoles so soon? The difference in hardware would be minuscule at best.
I didnt use underscores's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2010 20:01
I didnt use underscores
Nintendo was last of this gen, but they're WAYYYY in first.
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