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Cameron thinks Halo fanboys should STFU about Avatar photo

James Cameron, director, visionary and broodmother of James Cameron Presents James Cameron's Avatar Made By James Cameron, believes that videogame nerds, especially Halo fans, need to shut their holes about his latest epic movie.

"The funniest thing is when some of the so-called fanboys get up trashing Avatar for looking too much like Halo," chuckles Cameron, possibly while tossing a bone to one of his grateful manservants. "It’s like ... pay attention. If I’m referencing anything, I’m referencing the source work for Halo, which is my own stuff. So I get to do that. Nobody else gets to do that, but I get to do that. My rule, anyway."

If you criticize Avatar, you are clearly some sort of idiot who can't appreciate the film's incredibly subtle and relevant messages about how white Americans are sexually gratified by the idea of murdering trees and love to spunk in the eyes of baby squirrels. If you disagree with Cameron, you're a f*cking dick. Simple as that.

James Cameron Strikes Back At Halo Fans Criticizing Avatar [G4TV]








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The Fundoshis's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:34
The Fundoshis
I kinda agree with Cameron actually...

Not that I think Avatar is any good.
Turtlehermit's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:35
Turtlehermit
Oh Lord Cameron, have mercy on these poor misguided souls!
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:38
Shin Oni
Ferngully anyone?
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:38
Kraid
James Cameron.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:39
Xzyliac
Who said Avatar is like Halo?
RIMoonlight's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:41
RIMoonlight
I appear to be the only person here who enjoyed Avatar. I didn't enjoy it as much as say... District 9 or Sherlock Holmes. Hell, I think I enjoyed the Princess and the Frog more, though I hardly thought it was bad.
That said, James Cameron; I appreciate you're a great director and all... but yeah, you're a dick. That's fact.
joshkim's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:43
joshkim
Hey Jim,

You seriously need to start linking up where you got these blurbs from. Is this from the interview with G4?
DDMagnaS's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:45
DDMagnaS
Uh, actually Jim, that's not what he said. He was referring to people trashing the art direction or setting. That's not the same as James Cameron slagging off on ANYONE who didn't like the movie for WHATEVER reason. Just because you didn't like the movie and got to write a review about it (and your review was terrible on its own merits) doesn't mean that your flying off the handle about spunk and baby squirrels is any more valid than those same Halo fanboys he was talking about.
kefkaesque's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:45
kefkaesque
Funny, I dislike both Halo and Avatar.

District 9 is a far superior generic "white people are evil aliens are cool" movie.
Nolan South's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:45
Nolan South
..........if Avatar was fun, it would have gotten good professional reviews, so teh HALORZ have very little to do with anything.
AlexBebop's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:45
AlexBebop
Ohh, THIS GUY!

I just saw the movie this past weekend and Halo never crossed my mind once. If you twist something around enough, then yeah you can make it look like anything else. That's what I think is happening if these "so-called fanboys saying it looks like Halo" are actually around.
phoenixavatar2's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:47
phoenixavatar2
"If you criticize Avatar, you are clearly some sort of idiot who can't appreciate the film's incredibly subtle and relevant messages..."

Or not. That's not at all what he's saying. He's complaining about people deriding his movie full of generic space marines for being similar to a game full of generic space marines. He didn't say anything about the plot. Putting aside the fact that Cameron is being an idiot for taking trollbait but come on, Jim, try to have some maturity and actually read the quote you're writing.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:48
Xzyliac
Ya know if had never brought up videogames when hyping this thing...just sayin'.
Genius's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:49
Genius
Considering how much I hate Halo and its frothing at the mouth fanboys, Ill agree with James by default.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:49
Chronic Logic
Wait, halo? Avatar is a terrible movie and mediocre at best. But where did the Halo references come from? How do people think this is like Halo?
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:50
Jim Sterling
Loving the people who have no idea what a joke is.
Knight Templar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:51
Knight Templar
Why do you keep missing the point in reguards to Avatar?
I mean he makes a comment about one small group of people, and you act like it is direct at evrybody.

He is talking about those who say Avatar takes inspireation from Halo, not everybody who disagrees with him. You get pissed when people make shit up and put words in your mouth, and you're doing that here.
bodybreak's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:53
bodybreak
I don't understand any of this. What does Halo have to do with Avatar...? So confused...
jfbguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:53
jfbguy
Cameron is probably right about his past projects influencing so much. And Jim, you are getting tiresome with these posts.
Knight Templar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:55
Knight Templar
"Loving the people who have no idea what a joke is."

This is more or less the kind of thing you would post with a stright face, it's not exactly our of chracter for you to be say things such as this.

http://www.destructoid.com/avatar-s-smoking-character-is-a-criticism-of-gamers-159516.phtml
TheDRMaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:55
TheDRMaster
People can criticize Avatar as much as they want, but criticizing it because it "looks like Halo lol" is not justifiable.

Also, I liked the movie :(
DDMagnaS's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:56
DDMagnaS
Loving the authors who tried to make a joke that didn't work because it was based on misunderstanding and equating Halo fanboys = anyone who didn't like Avatar = himself, then hitting the comments section to attempt a weak backtrack.
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:57
RonBurgandy2010
Cameron's head is so far up his own ass that he's in danger of choking on his own spleen.
OWENR22's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 19:59
OWENR22
If he hadn't made Aliens and the good Terminators, I think I'd have formed an angry mob to hunt him down and punch him in the balls.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:01
Sharpless
I don't remember furries being in Halo.
Ghost125's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:03
Ghost125
halo fanboys bitching about everything ( expect halo, all hail halo !!!) lol typical......
Airbr1dge's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:03
Airbr1dge
Avatar sucked. I realize that's completely off topic but that's the truth.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:04
Xzyliac
So after reading the interwebs it seems a lot of people are calling it a Halo rip-off based off of the first batch of trailers.

Xbox360Achievements.org:
Has anyone else watched the trailer for this yet? Its on the xbox spotlight now. It has totally stolen the Hornet vehicle design from Halo and also the walking vehicles from Halo Wars look very similar.

Bungie's Halo 3 Forum:
have you guys seen the trailer of avatar? its a complete rip off of halo and i dont like it!

Random blog troll's comment section:
When I first started watching the avatar trailer at first I thought cool some one is making a movie of Halo then started watching more and said what a rip off of to good plot lines halo for the design of the ships and avatar the last airbender for the name

The last one is particularly funny since Avatar was in the making long before The Last Airbender. I digress if I was Cameron I'd be upset at these retards too.
IMDB Forum:
I swear Halo looks more like a rip off of James Cameron's Aliens everyday. The ships and the marines and the guns...hmmm looks like a movie from 86.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:04
Xzyliac
Format fail.

IMDB Forum:
I swear Halo looks more like a rip off of James Cameron's Aliens everyday. The ships and the marines and the guns...hmmm looks like a movie from 86.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:05
Xzyliac
Oh and reading fail. Ignore that last one. I...oh fuck it. This is why I don't try to be intelligent.
Mr Squish's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:06
Mr Squish
Really successful, creative people who generate amazing cultural media phenomenons are bound to be bashed from all sides for making off handed comments about their work, and how their work has been influenced and influences other artists. Cameron made the space marine part of pop culture, anyone who denies it is petty or ignorant or both.
Discarded Couch Sandwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:06
Discarded Couch Sandwich
It was like Halo in that it had pretty colours, space marines and a big fight with those funny helecopter things that look like they have fans on top. In every other regard, it was not anything like Halo.

Was it such a problem for the movie to contain these three tenuous links to a videogame? Did some person somewhere throw their arms in the air when they saw those helecopter things and shout "Halo did that, therefore this is crap" because Pokemon came first and everyone knew that Digimon was rubbish anyway.
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:10
Harris Hatsworth
You'd have to be 13 or retarded (lolsamething) to say Avatar is ripping off Halo.

Although, to call Avatar an original work spawned from a closed loop of genius is stupidly arrogant. The movie is just Dances With Wolves/Last Samurai/Whatever movie about an army guy going native combined with Fern Gully.
ProperlyParanoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:10
ProperlyParanoid
Avatar is a terrible movie and James Cameron should just shut up. I can't believe a director that is not even close to being any good one gets so much attention.
HoodedMiracle's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:11
HoodedMiracle
Really, guys? Halo?

It's obvious he's ripping off the Smurf's.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:14
The Silent Protagonist
I don't go to the movies much these days, but right now its between Sherlock Holmes and Avatar.

Personally, there's only so many movies with heavy-handed analogies that I can take. I think on a concept level, District 9 probably does it better than Avatar. Because after seeing the preview to Avatar, it felt a lot more pretentious than the route District 9 took.

See, D9 took a classic trope and turned the tables on it. Usually its the aliens that come to Earth to enslave humanity. Instead, they basically had engine trouble, came here with their advanced technology to do repairs and we liked thier stuff so much wouldn't let them fix it and leave. It was Steven King's Carrie on a more national scale, only with aliens enslaved rather than an author held hostage by his #1 psychotic fan.

The analogy of racism/slavery is no different than than we saw elsewhere, but there were interesting spins on it. Avatar just tells the same old "white men are evil and greedy" analogy. As far as the environmentalist angle goes - also done to death. Ferngully, Final Fantasy VII. Been there, done that.

Then you take a hottie like Zoe Saldana, this beautiful and elegant woman and put her in the alien makeup. That's stupidity on the scale of making Jessica Alba the Invisible Woman.
pixelpunx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:18
pixelpunx
When will Jim interview Cameron?
Ninja In Distress's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:25
Ninja In Distress
I get that Cameron would be upset about Halo fanboys calling rip-offs. I mean, Halo gets half of its bullshit from Cameron's Aliens. The Marine design, assault rifles, the dropships, hell Sgt. Johnson is pretty much exactly Sgt. Apone, right down to the cigar-chomping.

http://www.ascendantjustice.com/files/oldfamiliar/alien/02.png
BananaStand's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:27
BananaStand
Seriously, fuck trees.
brundlefly's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:29
brundlefly
Avatar was mediocre, but i'm on Cameron's boat with this one. Halo fans accusing ANYTHING of aping the ideas of others is laughable. The art design for the humans in Halo is taken nearly verbatim from Aliens, so Halo fans taking shots at the man who basically invented space marines is fucking retarded.
Canthari's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:30
Canthari
@ The Silent Protagonist

off-topic~ Check this out:

<a href="http://tozani.deviantart.com/art/District-9-140933280">tozani.deviantart.com/art/District-9-140933280</a>

http://tozani.deviantart.com/art/District-9-140933280 (if the html fails)

It's more or less a prequel to District 9, prawns' style. Looks like the situation was more severe than an engine problem.
Robot Viking's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:31
Robot Viking
I'm willing to bet half the people posting here saying Avatar sucks haven't seen it.

For the record, I haven't either.
Mr eX's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:32
Mr eX
Once again Cameron is right and Jim Sterling is wrong and comes off as someone using Destructoid as his own personal forum to troll.
NoMoneyLeftBoy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:37
NoMoneyLeftBoy
No question Halo got its idea of a big ring from Cameron.
Kalmah's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:37
Kalmah
James Cameron is a BIAS Sony fanboy; it's clearly obvious.
Zantetsuken's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:39
Zantetsuken
Fuck you Cameron, I'm not paying close to £10 to go and watch some furry shit Pocahontas in space.
Jano Torres Gonzlez's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:42
Jano Torres Gonzlez
The Dukes of Hazzard looks like Halo... LOL...
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:43
007
Cameron, what the fuck are you talking about?
Toadofsky's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:58
Toadofsky
Who honestly cares? Boo-hoo gamers get made fun of, cry me a river

@ Mr. Ex
Have you noticed how much he posts half the time? Let alone how little of it being anything good other than flame bait for trolls/fanboys/"Hardcore"
Kefka's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2010 20:59
Kefka
Hmm, this is making me self-conscious. What if those baby squirrels were ASKING to catch a stray load to the eye? Am I still a bad person?
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