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The heartache and the bloodshed of World War II, the stark revelation of man's inhumanity to man, the bitter truth of civilization's eternal struggle with itself ... Actually, f*ck that, son! Get me some guns, some punching and some ROCKING ROLLS MUSIC!

Treyarch's launch trailer for Call of Duty: World at War truly captures the bleak spirit of World War II with this sensitive and thought-provoking trailer. It brings to light the most important things we as a species have learned from one of the most tragic conflicts of the 20th century -- No Rules, No Fear, No Mercy, Only CHAOS! That's what WWII was all about, man. The only thing that could have added more to this stark portrayal would be Hitler riding a Dewback and smoking pot with the cast of Cool Runnings.

I would like to congratulate Treyarch on this dark and engaging video, and what is sure to be a game that truly makes you think about conflict in the same way that Modern Warfare did.








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Half left's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 07:47
Half left
No doubt it'll appeal to the stereotypical FPS nuts.
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 07:55
psycho terror2
that trailer was GREAT.

i applaud treyarch for actually breaking away from the typical presentation of a WW2 game. "dark and engaging" has been done to death.

i'm not going to play COD5 because i want to learn about war - that's why i went to school.
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 08:04
tazarthayoot
What? No bodies hitting the floor? Tsk tsk, Treyarch
Spectreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 08:20
Spectreman
* Yeah, they use flame-thrower because there was no rules and it´s more fun, not because the japonesa was hidding in each place possible.
Mikey's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 08:22
Mikey
Looks good, but I am sooo sick of World War II.
v0odka's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 08:26
v0odka
hmmmmm... flamethrower...
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 08:35
Holyetheline
This looks great! I can't wait to get it.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 08:35
Jim Sterling
psycho_terror:

That's interesting you bring that up, since I believe the opposite, that it's trailers like the above that had been done to death. It's way corny.
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 08:44
psycho terror2
@ Jim

i suppose you could argue both ways quite easily considering how many times WW2 has been done, but i find that every WW2 i play seems to be going down the "serious" route and mostly doing a poor job of it.

i agree that this approach is pretty shallow compared to COD4's, but i feel this portrayal of war is just as valid. how in tune with the full game this trailer is i don't know, and if the answer is "not at all" then i'd certainly re-evaluate the merits of putting out a trailer like this.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 08:49
Jim Sterling
psycho_terror:

I think the problem lies, for me, in the fact that Modern Warfare is one of those games that did a serious war game and did a great job of it. It was such a tight campaign that I was incredibly impressed, and it just seems like a shame if this is going to be Treyarch's attitude to it.

I'm certainly looking forward to the game, mainly for online, but Modern Warfare's solo mode was a real surprising treat and I'd love Treyarch to have the same commitment.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 08:52
Timmeh
There's also the fact that there was much ado made about how World at War would show a dark, gritty, brutal side of war that has not been seen in games of its type. Something like that.

Yup, cliche catchphrases and genero-rock really equates to dark and brutal in my mind all right.
Coldbrand's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 08:56
Coldbrand
Haha, copying Slowtaku are we Jim? Fair enough, this trailer deserves a vicious beating.
Alexradl's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 08:57
Alexradl
This has to be the worst trailer I have ever seen. They really could have shown some cool stuff by highlighting the story and new gameplay elements, but no, random killings to the sound of rock music is so much better. "No Rules, No Fear, No Mercy, Only Chaos!" What?

Psycho_terror:

I didn't really think there was any other way to approach war.
stemot's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 08:59
stemot
Trust me, the full single player campaign is very serious in its portrayal of the war, both the Japanese side and the Germany side.
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 09:08
psycho terror2
@ Jim

you've fallen into the trap of comparing this to COD4 too much. i guess it is hard not to, but treyarch are at least bringing some variation to the series and if COD5 really is a quality game then i will certainly be satisfied.

@ Alexradl

yes, you are right, but however much we like to glorify WW2 in the sense that it was a real war, fought by commited and serious men for serious reasons, i have no doubt that there were a good few "crazies" in it for the chaos etc. and i guess that side of the conflict deserves recognition.

above all though, the quality of the game will decide wether this approach will work or not.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 09:09
Jim Sterling
Coldbrand: Ha, Kotaku was just right on this occasion.
junglistgamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 09:11
junglistgamer
I read an interview with the last British soldier to have fought in world war 1...kind of coloured my opinion of all historical action games. When it's total fiction or sci-fi i'm up for a good blast but theres something weirdly exploitative about historical shooters.
Druid 01's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 09:29
Druid 01
the trailer definitely makes me want to kill some shit until i remember that that it's completely exploiting real events . . . o and that it's made by treyarch
Darth Kupi's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 09:51
Darth Kupi
As an FPS nut: Want!

Nothing wrong with a solid, if derivative, shooter.

Not all games can be AAAA like CoD4, I mean come on, the bell curve is there for a reason, most stuff is average.

To non-FPS nuts: better off avoiding/wait-and-seeing.
KMCC's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 09:51
KMCC
I could not even finish watching that.

I read the Kotaku write up as well, and I completely agree: I would be embarrassed to watch that clip in the company of WWII veterans, of either side. Or even anyone of that generation. And yes, that is something to consider.

It comes across as both crassly exploitative of the actual events, and cynical in its obvious, lame appeal to the 14 year old boy demographic.

I know how annoying it is when someone sees the opportunity to seize the moral high ground on the internets, I know, but come on, this is just gross.
teh KangrejoMan's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 10:27
teh KangrejoMan
My sarcasm detector xploded!!!
Daniel Carneiro's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 10:32
Daniel Carneiro
I played through the single player campaign of CoD4 and I really enjoyed it , since it wasn't my game I couldn't check out the online mode over a longer time, so maybe my opinion isn't the one to rely on but I really like the world at war beta on the xbox 360, the in-game achievements are nice and the many different game-modes sound promising. I'm actually looking forward to buy it...

after playing left 4 dead and mirrors edge and fallout 3 and maybe fable 2 and dead space...



btw, is that a alice in chains song in the trailer?
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 10:53
Jetsetlemming
Oooohhhh, they've come to snuff the rooster, OH YEAH! And he ain't never gonna die, oh nooo

I will say that at least they used a song I've never heard used in a trailer before. And it's mildly appropriate for a war game... lyrically. Song's about being in Vietnam.



...And then they kinda butchered it by cutting out all the lyrics but "Oh yeah", but whatever.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 11:01
Jetsetlemming
Actually, nevermind. That's Alice in Chains but some other song.
ProperlyParanoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 11:05
ProperlyParanoid
Honestly? I had hopes for this, but now it just looks like some generic FPS with a not so nice representation of WWII.
God, I sure wish CoD4 had been released for the Wii.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 11:17
SephirothX
Maybe Treyarch realized people are sick of the traditional WW2 shooter and WW2 shooter music/presentation and said 'screw it lets just use some rock music'
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 11:40
vexed alex
Or maybe they're just trying to sell a game and it just looked bad ass.

It may not really represent the single campaign.
ChillyBilly's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 11:48
ChillyBilly
I agree with Vexed. I too thought that it looked pretty badass.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 11:59
VWGTI
Yea, I think it's pretty bad ass. I don't understand why everyone is trying to be so righteous here. It's a trailer for a game that is made to appeal to young males. I wouldn't try analyze it too deeply here, folks.
RedWinters's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 12:07
RedWinters
Oh calm down it's not like there doing anything terrible that nobody has done before, in the past call of duties you killed hundreds of enemy soldiers and fought all unrealistic and one sided fights. This is including cod4 where your killing hundreds of men wich is apperently ok? The fact that treyarch added a little badassidy to the trailer is relativly nothing compared to our already misguided standards. FPS's inatly are about killing people, and getting that competitive agression out of our system, the fact it's in world war 2 is just it's backdrop. If you thought this was offiencive how are you not offended by cod 4 which represents an amiditly fake conflict, but a conflict wich is spose to represent one that soldiers are dieing for right now on both sides. I find it hypocriticle for FPS gamers to complain about how you are killing someone in a game rather then the fact that their killing someone in the first place. /rant
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 12:34
Eschatos
There should be a rule that you cannot use music in a game where the genre of music wasn't even invented until after the time the game is set in.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 12:49
Jim Sterling
"The trailer wasn't really that corny"

Yes it was.
OrangeMango's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 13:13
OrangeMango
I don't believe that there was any nu metal in the '40s. Eschatos is a wise man.
Jon2309's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 13:15
Jon2309
"NO RULES"


Jon2309 has been booted for team killing.



FUCK!
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 13:16
Corak
@eschastos
Come on man you can't be serious. That would be like putting in whatever music was around in ancient Greece or Rome for the God of War games. You can't seriously believe that would be a good idea.

As far as the trailer goes, +1 point for Alice in Chains, -1 point for another WW2 shooter. I can't bring myself to get this game, I've played too many WW2 shooters to play another one. You can shoot an M1 Garand and Thompson machine gun only so many times. It could be the best shooter since they were invented and I still won't get it.
OrangeMango's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 13:20
OrangeMango
@Corak I may have only played it at a friend's house, but i can't remember Alice in Chains in God of War, either.
Mig29's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 13:52
Mig29
I think I'm gonna puke....
ChillyBilly's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 14:08
ChillyBilly
"The trailer wasn't really that corny"

Yes it was.

Why exactly was it corny? Because they had rock music playing over scenes of violence? Was it really any different than oh I don't know 1000 other goddamn game trailers that have been put out over the past few years? It's called marketing and I for one believe that they did what they sent out to do, why? Because here we are talking about it, getting it even more in to the public eye.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 14:25
Jim Sterling
"Why exactly was it corny?"

NO RULES! NO FEAR! NO MERCY! ONLY CHAOS! I don't even need more than that, although the fact it looked like a silly Hollywood action flick helped.

"Was it really any different than oh I don't know 1000 other goddamn game trailers that have been put out over the past few years?"

No it's not. That's ... why its corny? You're kind of arguing my case here.

"It's called marketing and I for one believe that they did what they sent out to do, why? Because here we are talking about it, getting it even more in to the public eye."

Something that works isn't automatically something that's good.
UglyDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 14:39
UglyDuck
I think the trailer is a bluff. I think the "WOAR, MOTHERFUCKER!" attitude is the mentality they are trying to get you into, so that when you play it, you blunder into all the mistakes they want you to. I could be wrong but I've been waiting for someone to do this for some time, and this looks like the perfect set up.

Just saying I called it.
ChillyBilly's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 14:56
ChillyBilly
Good or not (which is totally the person watching it’s opinion) it’s still creating exactly what it was set out to do, to get people talking about it and possibly interested in buying it.

Also, something you may find corny someone else may find "badass" as some people in this thread have.

Listen, it's a trailer. For a videogame. This is not the Oscars and we are not debating something for a Pulitzer or Noble prize. We could sit here all day and argue the merits of the video itself. Does it glorify war? Does it copy and steal from other videos? Does it really need to have music playing that wasn't prevalent during the time frame the game takes place?

When I read articles like this (and the one posted earlier today over at Kotaku) I think of this quote:

“I am grateful that I am not as judgmental as all those censorious, self-righteous people around me”

So lets just all sit back, watch some people get blown to shit and just enjoy it for what it is, a goddamn videogame.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 15:24
VWGTI
Amen, ChillyBilly.
hygraed's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 15:25
hygraed
They could not have chosen worse music for that trailer.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 15:30
Jim Sterling
ChillyBilly:

I think the people taking this more seriously are the people who liked the trailer. They're the ones getting upset by this stuff.

Read my article again, please. I don't believe I was self-righteous, just sarcastic. I'm not offended by the trailer, I think it's unintentionally funny if anything, and I feel it's a shame that they felt they had to go down this route with it. Y'know, just a shame that this is their attitude towards the game premise.

Most of my article, however, was intended for a laugh. So enjoy that for what it was too, a goddamn bit of messing around.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 15:42
VWGTI
@ Jim

The people taking it too seriously are those who feel the need to write an article about how tasteless they think the add is (not you, the guy over a Kotaku). He genuinely seemed upset about it. It's a launch trailer for a video game, not a work of art.

I wonder if it would of have been better received if they had Loverboy's Working For The Weekend playing instead. Maybe Soulja Boy's Superman.
ChillyBilly's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 16:12
ChillyBilly
The problem though Jim is that sarcasm does not carry over well in the written form; you for one should know this since this medium is your preferred career choice.

I can appreciate your opinion on the trailer and do understand that is meant to be comical even satirical in nature. I also stand behind my opinion though that the trailer is pretty badass no matter what music they use or who may or may not be offended.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 17:12
Samit Sarkar
Ugh, this trailer is sickening.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 19:29
Jim Sterling
"The problem though Jim is that sarcasm does not carry over well in the written form; you for one should know this since this medium is your preferred career choice. "

I mentioned Adolf Hitler riding a Dewback and smoking pot with the cast of Cool Runnings.

If you can't detect the sarcasm, then I'm afraid I can't help you.
Blackhat's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/09/2008 22:21
Blackhat
What I would ask the people who made this is:
"Would you show this to a veteran? Would you a few days before Remembrance Day?"
kawitchate's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/10/2008 02:51
kawitchate
jesus. at first i didn't want the game, then i did, and now with this trailer... i don't know anymore.

what i find weird is that Keifer Sutherland isn't doing any promotions. i mean didn't they get him for the single player? he's a pretty big name. all the kids love Jack Bauer. record a trailer with him as the narrator.

boom. sold.
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