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Cage won't make Heavy Rain 2, not in it for the money photo

David Cage has stated that he doesn't intend to make Heavy Rain 2, even though he could potentially score a huge amount of money from a sequel. This is because of something called, "David Cage the brand." He wishes to sell himself, rather than his products. 

"David Cage the brand, as you call it, is about not having to make sequels," he said. "It's about creating a brand that is the name of the creator, not Heavy Rain 1, 2, 3, 4, 10, 12. Let me be stupid for one second; I'm not in this business to make money. I wrote Heavy Rain because I was excited about it, because there was something to say. Yeah I could make Heavy Rain 2, but I've said what I've had to say about it. 

"I don't know what to say. I guess I don't have a long-term strategy for my career. It's certainly not to make as much money as possible though. I see myself as an author, really. I just trust my instinct. I think fans of what I do want me to do that too."

Why does a man who cannot write a good story consider himself an author? Probably for the same reasons he's always pretending a film director, I guess. Anyway, there will be no Heavy Rain sequel, but you can look forward to the next "David Cage Presents An Interactive Movie By David Cage" very soon!

David Cage: From the brink [Develop]








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shadow2398's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:34
shadow2398
B-b-b-but I need more JASON! its like taking away the creepy balloon clown from jason. Also jason.
AceFlibble's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:36
AceFlibble
David Cage, a brand? Lily Savage is a more respectable brand, Jim Davidson's name carries more weight.

I think it's safe to say David Cage is a talentless, delusional fuckwit who, if we're lucky, will quietly slip away from this industry to waste other peoples' time on shitty arthouse flicks.
BoboTheMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:36
BoboTheMonkey
JAY-SUN!
KilvasKills's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:37
KilvasKills
I'd much rather see something new than Heavy Rain 2
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:38
manasteel88
Cage should pass the memo up to his boss, because that guy is all about the monies.
clok1966's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:39
clok1966
"Why does a man who cannot write a good story consider himself an author?" and hwo do you qualify this comment? If somebody is full of themsleves.. look to thyself first.. Heavy rain sold ok.. so the people must have enjoyed it.. Jim commenting on a game he dislikes is sorta like Microsoft commenting on Apple products.. Grow up Jim.. You have an opinion.. great.. quit beating us over the head with it.. You didnt like Heavy RAIN we got it.. lots of people did (im not one of them). But I wont act like a 6 year old and keep repeating it disguised as news.
garethxxgod's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:39
garethxxgod
David Cage the brand.

Wait I couldn't have read that correctly. Well, no there it is.

Wow.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:39
pokota
Bloody hell, dude, give it up. Your eternal vendettas really only make you look bad. This guy could cure cancer and you would complain about it.

I'm not a Heavy Rain fan, but I can respect anyone who declines making a sequel where there shouldn't be one, especially when nearly everything as successful as Heavy Rain ends up as a trilogy.
Im The Singer in Symphony X's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:39
Im The Singer in Symphony X
Come on Jim, thats enough. You are the exclusive writer for all articles Cage/heavy rain related, why?

What really urks me is that no one else from DTOID will be reviewing his future games, its obvious that you will, and with the intent of not liking it.

But youre jim, so i cant stay mad at you :3
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:42
Tubatic
Come now, you don't have to be good something to be an artist. :)

Its kind of a bummer, because I think doing a Heavy Rain 2 (at least) would serve to bolster his name against a successful brand.

But, I can respect the desire to keep it fresh. I'm definitely looking forward to his next thing, whatever that is. A return to something Omikron-like would be really nifty.
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:43
Tristrix
For fuck's sake Jim. Yeah, Cage is a bit full of himself but so what? At least the guy is trying. Whether or not Heavy Rain was a good game is certainly up for debate, and there's been plenty of it so I won't rehash it here, but it was an interesting concept and interesting game play (Press X to Jason notwithstanding) and it opened the door for what COULD be with a tighter narrative and yeah, ok, better talent.

According to vgchartz (not the most reliable source, I know, but it's the best I can do) Heavy Rain sold 1.81 million units worldwide. Whether it deserved to isn't important right now. What's important is that it proved there's a market... a goddamn BIG market, for something unorthodox and imaginative that doesn't involve rolling shotguns and chest-high walls. Shitty personality aside, the video game industry needs MORE David Cages. Not less.
Begaria's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:43
Begaria
"Why does a man who cannot write a good story consider himself an author?"

It's kind of like how a man who reports on and writes about gaming news doesn't call himself a Game Journalist.
DrRockso87's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:43
DrRockso87
I find it hilarious that the same developer that was bitching and complaining about used games sales affecting Heavy Rain's gross is now saying, "I'm not in it for the money." Hmmm, if that were true then isn't it fortunate that more people can afford Heavy Rain and play it, even if they're purchasing the game used? I mean, then more people can see the UNDENIABLE GENIUS AND WORK OF ART that is David Cage! haha

I'll admit, I liked the game. I didn't love it but I'll admit, it was neat. The music was incredible and at times made me shit my pants, the graphics were top-notch, the voice acting was hit or miss but the story was so full of holes. It was still a good game but hearing him elevate himself like this... ugh.

I fear one day when he falls off that pedestal he's sitting on right now and has the horrible misfortune of interacting with us commoners.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:45
mix
He did it all for the nookie!
C'mon
The nookie!
C'mon
So you can take that cookie
And stick it up your, yeah!!
Stick it up your, yeah!!
Stick it up your, yeah!!
Fugly Duckling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:47
Fugly Duckling
See? He's not a whore because he doesn't do it for money. He does it because he's an artist who believes what he's doing is great. So it's really all about masturbation.
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:47
Tristrix
@DrRockso87

"I find it hilarious that the same developer that was bitching and complaining about used games sales affecting Heavy Rain's gross is now saying, "I'm not in it for the money.""

That was two different people. They're allowed to have opinions independently of one another.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:48
Tubatic
This developer / studio could really do well, to iterate rather than innovate. As long as it takes to work up his tech, its working to keep him obscure. Unless he sticks close to Sony, I guess...
xOMG KITTEHx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:49
xOMG KITTEHx
@The Singer From Symphony X

I disliked heavy Rain 'twas an overrated piece of shit, so I support Jim writing all Heavy rain related articles and shit.
PercyChuggs's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:49
PercyChuggs
Press X to Jason.
Narishma's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:49
Narishma
Wait, he isn't in it for the money? Didn't he recently complain about used games taking away from him millions of dollars?
FPS Baby Jesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:53
FPS Baby Jesus
So because you don't think Heavy Rain was good makes it bad. I know more ppl who enjoy Heavy Rain than hate it. Also, now were bashing guys for not making sequels now. Activision and EA churn out sequels year in and year out and get criticized. This guy says he won't milk his franchise and he's giving shit. I never understood the hate for Heavy Rain on this site. Was it the game to end all games. Probaly not, but ppl hate in this guy for being proud of his work.
FPS Baby Jesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:53
FPS Baby Jesus
So because you don't think Heavy Rain was good makes it bad. I know more ppl who enjoy Heavy Rain than hate it. Also, now were bashing guys for not making sequels now. Activision and EA churn out sequels year in and year out and get criticized. This guy says he won't milk his franchise and he's giving shit. I never understood the hate for Heavy Rain on this site. Was it the game to end all games. Probaly not, but ppl hate in this guy for being proud of his work.
bubmario's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:54
bubmario
@pokota

Seconded. It bothers me when anyone in the entertainment business feels that there MUST be a sequel to a successful book/film and especially game! We don't need trilogies or even sequels to some of the best games out there. A sequel is only good when there is an expansion of the original concept, not a simple rehash with a slightly different look.
Tribeofpinkafros's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:54
Tribeofpinkafros
Where do i buy the t-shirt?
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:54
Tristrix
Didn't take long for someone to bust out "overrated." The vidjya gaemz hipsters have arrived.
VitaminShoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:54
VitaminShoe
haha
"Why does a man who cannot write a good story consider himself an author?"
Fantastic, David Cage makes Dean Koontz look like Jonathan Swift.
Telephis's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:56
Telephis
this guy is lol
Jay Me's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:57
Jay Me
@DrRockso87 Nice one.

Video games deserve sequels more than movies, invariably the sequel is better when it comes to games. Considering Heavy Rain was more of an interactive movie, this is probably a wise decision (if it actually is his decision).
Sailorjeff's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:58
Sailorjeff
Yeah.....this coming from the D-bag who was complaining about gamestop stealing all of his profits. Now he doesnt care about money? Wow hypocrite much?
wandermaven's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 12:59
wandermaven
Not a fan of Heavy Rain, but I completely respect his statement. You don't watch Dark Knight to see the Joker, you watch Dark Knight to see Heath Ledger PLAY the Joker.

Nothing against one-note artists (CliffyB, Hideo, etc.) but it's good to know that there are still artists out there who don't want one thing to define them. And we all know that Sterling hates art anyway, so nothing new, just same old potshots.
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:00
Drakengard
Might as well 'beat the dead Jim' at this point, but you really need to stop whining about David Cage.

Your loathing of the man is nothing short of annoying. I get that you're blogging, but I just wish that you could set aside your sly backhanded comments on one man's game that you didn't like.

Yes, the story was rubbish on a logical level. The concept, however, was not and I'll take more rubbish from Cage if he's out to do something interesting and different rather than myself continuing to support a bunch of devs who are all jumping on the coattails of the next big game just because it sold well.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:01
Tubatic
In a nod to Brad Nicholson and the TouchArcade Podcast. "WHAT?!"
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:01
Mr Andy Dixon
Shucks.

Oh well, maybe Uwe Boll will pick this one up. He makes videogame movies too, you know.
garethxxgod's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:01
garethxxgod
@jimmyx

Like the deal Epic Games made with Micro$oft for Gear$ of War?!?!$$$$$$ cash money
Samhain's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:06
Samhain
Cage wasn't the one bitching about used games, his boss was.
Panzadolphin56's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:09
Panzadolphin56
I like that he talks about Heavy Rain as if he made it single-handedly.

Because that doesn't sound dickish at all.
DEG's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:09
DEG
He must be in it for all the bomb ass pussy.
xOMG KITTEHx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:10
xOMG KITTEHx
@Tristrix

Yup I called a single game overrated, I'm obviously a video game hipster, even though I love and play alot of mainstream games.
Baby Choo Choo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:14
Baby Choo Choo
If his first name was Johnny, I would like him a lot more that I do now. I don't like him at all right now.
Hystzen's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:15
Hystzen
"If he wasnt in it for the money why did he sell his soul to $ony. Why not release his games on multiple platforms. Anybody who makes console exclusive and says he is not in it for money is HUGE hippocrite"

Jimmy knows the truth all hail the king............

seriously wtf the game you make love to GOW is a exculsive for xbox with huge cash deal so is halo we all know that GOW4 is coming becoz cliffy loves da money
kidplus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:16
kidplus
"Why does a man who cannot write a good story consider himself an author?"

Says the man that thinks Gears has a good story. It's time to get off of Cage's dick, Jim. Your incessant whining about the man has gotten old.

bEAR's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:16
bEAR
David Cage and Jim Sterling have one thing in common. David consistently destroys his image by being so proud of himself, and Jim consistently destroys his image by relentlessly eating cheeseburgers.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:16
pokota
That was a really interesting interview. That you just picked out something to bitch about is kind of pathetic. The phrase "David Cage the brand" came from the journalist, anyway.

The part that got my attention was where the talked about having to change the names of his games for US release: "The games I make don’t include a gun. Very often, American marketing departments have a problem with this. They have this image of their market being gun-loving red-necks. It’s completely wrong."

I'm not sure how interested I'll be in his next game, but I'm glad there ARE people who are pushing into new directions. I don't have to like every single game. He was spot-on about the fact that there are too many titles coming out that are just alike.

Seriously, Sterling, get over it.
Perfidious Sinn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:17
Perfidious Sinn
"It's certainly not to make as much money as possible though."

Quite a different attitude from "quit buying my game used!"
Startyde's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:20
Startyde
In a world where we have diatribe garbage like Final Fantasy XIII - 2 coming out on the horrizon, the world could use a few more David Cage's.
nekobun's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:22
nekobun
What a shame. I was afraid for a bit that Cage may've wanted to take an opportunity to polish concepts from the first game and actually make something good, rather than a mere curiosity. Bullet DODGED.
Matt Edwards's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:24
Matt Edwards
As good as Stuart Baggs the brand?
jawshoeuh's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:30
jawshoeuh
I still need to play this game at some point... perhaps I can find a used copy. (touche)
Firestorm2117's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:30
Firestorm2117
Cage needs to learn a little something about image: Calling yourself humble doesn't make you sound humble.
Janklogs's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/28/2011 13:32
Janklogs
"Let me be stupid for one second; I'm not in this business to make money."

Then you're doing it wrong and you shouldn't be in charge of a lemonade stand, much less a videogame company. Go broke and live off the streets, you bum.
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