Knowing nothing, I must first make a small trip...

So according to Wikipedia, these guys haven't made that many games before, the games they have made have reviewed moderate to well, and they're French.

I'm ok with all that but I think it goes a long way in explaining what this Cage fellah's sayin'. Yeah... he thinks his baby's special. That shouldn't surprise any of us. Plenty of developers say "our game features new innovations that innovate and it's going to be great". No one ever says "we're building a sort of run-of-the-mill game without much story but a couple big explosions/plot twists, that seems to sell".

Anyway, that's not important. What is important is that about halfway through reading these comments I started to get sidetracked and think about the word "game". Outside of gaming, which is to say outside of video-gaming, it's a word that comes with certain implications. Namely that you're about to have fun. It's the nature of the game. I suppose that's true for video gaming as well; there's no point when it's not fun.

What about the word video? It's just a modifier here to let us know what kind of gaming we'll be doing. And actually, it's the right word every time because that's how this whole industry is presented to us, so I'm going to switch back to talking about "game". Game isn't right every time, this Cage fellah is on to something here. Nobody calls the movies the going out to the cineplex game, because it's not a game, and if this game isn't a game I think we should call it something else too. I suggest... "interactive movie". It'll be entertaining, like an interaction, and you'll interact with it, like a movie. It's the perfect name and I've come up with it all myself. *takes a bow, and the money, and runs*

I still can't wait for this game. Even though Cage seems to be a douche.

I could really care less if this Cage guy thinks it's a game or not, cause I'm getting it for my PS3 regardless of how douchey the people making it are made out to be.

I've gone from being genuinely intrigued by this game, and not being able to wait, to being a sideliner at best. I'll need to be STRONGLY convinced that this is something I'd liketo invest both my time and money into. If I wanted a wholly linear emotional journey, a largely passive experience, I'd fucking watch a movie or read a book. Games are not movies. Games are not books. They do things differently. The way I see it, you don't come into this field and say your experience isn't a game. If it's not a game, then I guess I'm not buying it. If the makers of Flower call their work a game (which it is, and a fantastic one at that,) you can fucking go so far as to call your work a game.

@Byronic Man

I'm definitely going to a deli and ordering a Breadsnack.

Problem is the general video gaming audience has been dumbed down over the years to the point where the majority have the attention span of a gnat and all they want to do is run around shooting stuff ad infinitum, ad nauseam. Heavy Rain looks to break away from that worn out mold so I appluad the effort at least. If the story is good I'll be glued to the screen.

I'd call it ICE. "Interactive Cinematic Experience"

It's probably going to be a fine game if a little up it's self, but statements like this that kind of set themselves up for an easy out if the game does fail because then they can do the old "people were reviewing this as if it were a game, which it wasn't" and so forth.

Im tired of this game, because in the end it just seems like it will just be a bunch of tedious button work...I mean it might be interesting...but really just like that game indigo prophecy before it, nobody really cares

Great. There's no reason that computer software be limited to "games". I'm all for experimenting with non-game, interactive dramatics. As long as the story's good and it looks cool.

It was always the controls in Indigo Prophecy that most impressed me. The story was told in an interesting way and (except for the weird shit later on) was very good, but the way they used the controller to make the player "feel" like they were performing the actions of the on screen character resonated with me more than anything else. It's amazing that so many people are putting so much time and energy into motion controls when, no matter how tight they actually get, I'm not sure they'll ever achieve the level of immersion that I felt the first time I had to climb a ladder in Indigo Prophecy.

Can't wait for Heavy Rain. At the very least it will be one of the most unique experiences of the generation.

kefkaesque


thats riduculous over simplification


why do people like MW2? the gameplay is nothing but shooting

why do people like monkey island? the gameplay is just clicking

why do people like SOTC? the game only has 16 enemies

@Infinitys End
Patent that shit. Now!

Yeah, this is going a bit too far.

I don't give two shits what they want to call it or consider it or whatever, I just want to play it.

IF it was made in Japan, they would have already named a genre after it
(See origins of Survival horror for details)

I'll still be looking for this title in the VIDEOGAMES aisle.

I will be confused if stockists put it next to the sandwiches.

I have not been following this game...is it just long cutscenes followed by short periods of quick time events?

@enderx30: I don't think there will be any cut-scenes if it's anything like Fahrenheit, their previous game.

enderx30: It's more like a long string of walking around and QTE/QTE-like actions, assuming that it's like Indigo Prophecy. In that game there were cutscenes in the sense that people would talk to you but usually there was interaction through dialog or whatever. And a large portion of the "QTEs" aren't really like QTEs in most games. For instance to climb a ladder you had to do a quarter circle motion with the left and right sticks alternating, which is kind of genius if you think about it.

If Heavy Rain is like the next evolution of that it will be a really neat gameplay experience that shouldn't be missed, and by all accounts they've dropped all the crazy paranormal/mystic/whatever bullshit stuff from Indigo Prophecy, which was the thing I liked least about it (at least once it starts getting way out there). Well, that and the "stealth" mission somewhere in the middle of the game. I HATE that part.

Amazing how many ignorant 360 fanboys are in the comments section today. I know the 360 doesn't have any exclusive games but if this is all you have to do with your time then maybe you should consider buying a PROPER games console? You know.....one that doesn't blow up 70% of the time?

This game looks fantastic and the people who say it's nothing but QTE's only prove how limited their knowledge of the games industry is. You know.......Maybe Halo 3: ODST could have benefited from being an "Interactive story"........because that way the game may have lasted longer than 10 minutes! You guys are stupid enough to pay $60 for a 10 - minute piece of DLC yet you criticize those that are looking forward to a FULL game? LOL........360 fanboys really are stupid.

I'm personally really looking forward to Heavy Rain, can't wait!

It will likely be another highly acclaimed, cult following, but poor sales game - because such a high percentage of "gamers" will only buy CoD, Halo, Madden/ Fifa games.

What? It's not an online multiplayer game? It's not a sports game I can play with my buddies? I have to watch, listen, and understand it? - No way dude, I'm getting a sports game which is only slightly different to last years!

It's a sorry state for the games industry, it's turning into the music industry as far as people only really buy the middle of the road, boring crap that the massive corporations put out.

Doesn't help that you have to drop such a large amount of money on a new release.

I hope I'm wrong, because i think HR looks fucking fantastic. I fucking loved Farenheit (Indigo Prophecy)

Any idea why that game had 2 names? I know one was Europe and one was US, but why was that?

@Sexualchocolate
The name was changed in the US and Canada to avoid confusion with the Michael Moore film "Fahrenheit 9/11".

I think this game is a great concept, I still have to wait to see how things turn out but it's looking and sounding great to me.

Wow, it's quite amazing for me.
The first thing that i saw on this screenshot were Madison's boobs. Damn, i think that's creepy. It's getting too realistic.
Hey, maybe that's what Cage is all about!

I'm really interested in seeing how they add gameplay into Heavy Rain, because I just can't see it. They're trying too hard to create a dramatic, realistic game. Where will the gameplay be? I'm imagining an outcome worse than Metal Gear and their dialogue scenes.

Despite my hate for QTEs, this may be one of the most important videogames for the industry. It could possibly change videogame's perception of being more then just a child's toy. The fact that he considers Heavy Rain not to be a videogame anymore is completely insulting. Is no one else the little bit upset by this?

A few people here could do with chilling the hell out! Cage is just describing what the game has become FOR HIM. He's not saying that it's illegal to refer to it as a game, despite half of the kneejerk reactions on here. Sheesh. It's only natural that someone who worked this closely on such an usual title for so long would start to see it in a bizarre light.

Just be ready to support Heavy Rain when it comes out...this is the kind of shit which could attract a whole new wave of gamers (HARDCORE ones, not casual ones)

I agree with the developer because a game almost completely driven by quick-time events can hardly be referred to as a game.

In context tho I think the developer suffers from a similar condition to a lot of people so engrossed in a creative endeavor. Just like every band that says: "We don't really fit into any genre, we are our own original style", everybody wants to believe that what they are creating is on the cutting edge, will push the medium, sets new standards and has NEVER been done before. To a certain degree he's probably right.

But in the end it's semantics, its like Sony bringing out a new TV that's so good they say "This is no longer a TV, more than a TV, its actually its a Visual and Sound Entertainment Delivery System". Yet it will be sold alongside regular TVs just like Heavy Rain will be sold in the Video Game isle.

You know what Heavy Rain needs to do? Be more like Shenmue, which is its obvious inspiration.

QTEs! Pressing a series of buttons to do something in a videogame! OMFG!... people, please. ALL videogames requires pressing a series of buttons or moving a joystick around. What too many people are thinking of are rail-shooters. This isn't an action game - Heavy Rain is an adventure game. I know it's been a while since the days of Sierra and Lucasarts - look it up if your too young to remember these kinds of games. But I remember them very fondly, and the action of those games were basically move the mouse over the screen and click when the pointer turns different. Indigo Prophecy was a definate step up from the old days, and Heavy Rain is continuing the evolution of a lost genre. No need to hate on a game just because you don't run around and shoot/clobber/stab/whip people senseless.

FYI: I played these kinds of games starting with Zork. No graphics, only text. And you had to guess what the game wanted you to type to actually progress. In those days a game that could take a minimum of 45 minutes to complete would take an average player a few months to get through without a walkthru. Think about the progress being made here, instead of insta-hating.

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The problem with QTE isn't necessarily one of mechanics, but one of modality. You never play an entire game as a QTE. The problem is that last word in the acronym: Event. In a non-QTE game, the "event" is constant, present, and absorbing. You control your interface with the game almost constantly.

With QTE's, the switch between the game's other mode, be it real-time exploration or menu-driven narration and the QTE become a conceit that allows for a certain amount of perceived laziness on the part of the designer. If you're only going to allow the player to control the game and a set, scripted, moment and disconnect their actions at other times, playing a QTE becomes an exercise in not failing a cutscene.

Not failing a cutscene doesn't bring a lot of satisfaction to most people. Hence most people's distaste for the QTE as an obsolete, rather than forward-thinking game modality.

That said, I'm still curious to see what this game does with the QTE problem.

And it is a problem, whether you want to deride those who think it is or not.

I'm of course eager for Quantic Dream's Heavy Rain! Why wouldn't I? The visual is really good.

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My friends as well do think that the visual is awesome. I think the visual contributes a lot to the success of a game.

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I like the idea of having a game that is based on water. Its very rare that such games are being made. It also gives you a different treatment as the factors of the surroundings of the characters are unstable. Perhaps I can use this or play this game using skiff reader for sale.

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