Splash Damage is bringing its new shooter Brink to both PC and Xbox 360, but the game's creative director knows which version is best. Stating that console controls can't match PC input, Richard 'Rahdo' Ham has explained that analog sticks are just a poor man's mouse and that the PC will always rule first-person-shooters.
"No matter how hard we work on it to make the perfect analogue stick controls -- and as an aside we have got really good analogue stick controls -- it is a poor man's mouse at the end of the day," he states. "Obviously it goes without saying that on consoles it is going to be pegged to the maximum resolution that the consoles can handle. Whereas on PC, the sky's the limit, depending on what your rig is. There is no choice about it.
"I would be laughed out the room if I were to sit here and say 'yes of course the console games will look just as good as the PC version'. The PC version will always be king because it can always adapt and keep on building if you have got the money.
"All PC gamers know that's where the best experience is going to be if you have got the money. But I am a console player first and foremost and so we are also ensuring it will be a fantastic and beautiful experience on consoles as well."
Harsh, harsh words for consoles. Of course, I am in the tiny minority that actually prefers controllers to mice. A console trigger just feels better, and I've never been a fan of the mollycoddling "point-and-click" approach to shooting. Sure, it's more accurate, but where's the sense of skill? Anyone can point and click at a head. I know most people find the PC superior for their shooters, and that's cool, but it's definitely not for me, nor will it ever be.
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5:00 PM on 09.10.2009
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Also, Splash Damage is doing some pretty nifty things with console controls that are pretty cool. If their demo at PAX is any indication, console controls may be better than their PC counterpart.
because auto aim requires so much more finesse...
Also using an inferior aiming apparatus means you have more skill? Gonna have to call bull on that.
Oh yeah, because holding L (or whatever it was) to auto lock onto everything without ever having to actually aim is for people with mad skill. I love Metroid Prime but if any aiming system is for retards, it'd be Metroid's.
They get shafted because computers are more expensive and because a lot of people just don't enjoy playing games with a mouse. I have a decent gaming PC, can run Crysis Warhead at max settings, but I just prefer my 360 for shooters.
Like Deathofthedead and Jim, I just feel like I'm clicking things, not really killing them. I think it's the feeling of the trigger on the 360, feels more satisfying than a click.
Also, PCs have superior sound? Since when?
Funny, I thought that when you shot a gun in real life you pulled a trigger, not clicked a button. I guess I was mistaken.
i forgive you ...
So having a hard on for pulling buttons instead of clicking them makes a completely inferior aiming style better?
Also yes PCs have higher sound quality, better sound cards and surround sound headphones are much better than whatever year old sound information consoles use. PCs since they're always updating will always have better everything over consoles, the console makers can't pick technology out of the future to match up with computers.
lets just do what we prefer and many options are the way to go !!
-Analog sticks are much better for movement than WASD, for the simple reason that they allow for variable speed and greater precision.
-Face buttons are more ergonomic and easier to find than keyboard buttons.
-Rumble really helps with immersion. Seriously, it feels wrong to play any shooter without force feedback.
-A gamepad as a whole has been explicitly designed for gaming, meaning that it's far more ergonomic than mouse and keyboard, which were designed for pointing, clicking, and typing.
-It's more satisfying to pull a trigger (which is sensitive to how far back you pull it) than to click a button.
-With a gaming PC, you have to pay at least 500% more for 50% better graphics.
-Playing games on one's TV is much easier and more comfortable with a gamepad than a mouse and keyboard.
you rule !
I'm going to take your earlier suggestion and attempt to play Unreal Tournament using my new Wacom tablet.
1- Your fingers can move between WASD much faster than twirling an analog stick around
2- You just suck at finding keyboard buttons apparently
3- Rumble is nice, better graphics and sound are better
4- You're just resaying things you said before, which are still wrong
5- trigger fetish does not discount how inferior analog is
6- I wasn't aware my computer was three thousand dollars, because it isn't
7- That is 100% opinion, especially concerning what kind of couch of computer chair you have
Actually, I'm quite good at PC FPS's. I have logged well over a thousand hours playing the original Unreal Tournament and can hold my own in any PC shooter online. When I first got into games, I was a PC gamer. I had a hard time adapting to console shooters at first but I stuck with it and now can hold my own in any console FPS as well.
/facepalm
I guess we're all CAL-i snipers here then?
I have no problem with people gaming on their PCs, but it's just not for me.
1. People claiming that that I'm wrong to suggest PC controls require less skill.
2. People claiming PC players will wipe the floor with console players because of the control scheme.
1- Yay you can change direction faster. Too bad you still have less control of your movement.
2- I'll give you that, but face buttons are still easier to reach and feel more natural.
3- Slightly better graphics and sound.
4- No, a controller is more comfortable to hold. It simply is. I've never gotten carpal tunnel from a gamepad, unlike M&K.
5- Triggers are variable input. A mouse click is not.
6- $300 + 500% * $300 = $1800, which is actually a good estimation of the price of a gaming PC that has roughly 50% better graphics than a PS3 or Xbox 360. You fail at math.
7- So where do you put your mouse and keyboard? I'd assume your mouse would go on the arm of the couch/chair and the keyboard in your lap? I fail to see how that could be in any way more comfortable or convenient than a controller.
Anyway I love the high resolutions, accurate mice, and adjustable FOV found on PC.
I play without auto-aim in most of my games.
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9 times out of 10, yes.
He is right though. But everytime someone starts the debate, people go into an "OMG ELITIST" mode that gets old really quick.
It's the same shit with fighters, arcade sticks, and controllers.
No, console gamers generally just STFUAJPG. It's PC gamers who are the most vocal, constantly saying that a mouse is better than a controller in what appears to console gamers to be little more than fanboyism.
Or just the angry ones respond. :3
Besides any peasant can use a gamepad or mouse, a true man uses a Joystick!
No, a true gamer uses a Wacom tablet, as I just have. It's ridiculous, although compounded by the fact that I have had no experience with using a tablet in any sort of way before today.
If that was the case then why are people so much better and worse then me in tf2?