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Breaking: Valve still hates the PS3! photo

In yet another absolute shocker, Valve has confirmed that it still has absolutely zero interest in Sony's Black Box o' Blu-ray, stating that Left 4 Dead isn't coming to the PS3 simply because ... well ... nobody at Valve wants to have to port it over.

"We look at it as if we were customers of this product, how would we want to be treated and what sort of product would we want out of it?" explains Doug Lombardi. "We've run a couple of experiments over the years of PlayStation in general; we did Half-Life on PS2 with an outside company and then we did Orange Box PS3 with an outside company. We weren't able to deliver the same type of product on PS3 and PS2 for that matter that we were on the 360 and PC.

"If you look at it as a matter of Valve doing it, Valve did the 360 and the PC version of the Orange Box and they both go 96 on Metacritic -- The PS3 version was nowhere close to that. Left 4 Dead got an 89 or a 90 on 360 and PC ... Until we have the ability to get a PS3 team together, until we find the people who want to come to Valve or who are at Valve who want to work on that, I don't really see us moving to that platform."

Don't feel bad, PS3 fans. As Lombardi says, they're really considering you in all this. By not porting Left 4 Dead to the PS3, they're really saving you from playing an inferior product. If anything, Valve are heroes in all of this and you should really be thanking them. Sony fans, next time you're in Seattle, send Valve a card and be bloody grateful for once in your lives!


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Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:02
Jon B
I wish Ubisoft would think of me and not release half their games.

You know, AT ALL.
Havoc Fang's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:05
Havoc Fang
SEE. VALVE ARE STILL COOL AND ALL.

Doesn't surprise me, really. Valve have always been the "Don't force anything, push it out if its good" etc company and I AM A TOTALLY BIASED FANBOY LOLS.
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:07
linuxguy
Subtle sarcasm at its finest.
The internet community has a lot to learn from you, Jim. :D
along the way's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:07
along the way
He neglects me because he loves me. It's for the best.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:10
killias2
I don't know why this is such a bad thing. Any time a port of a 360/PS3 game to the Wii is announced, everyone cries that they're just greedy bastards who don't care about how much the game suffers, but when Valve says they have legitimate concerns about PS3 development, they're clearly insane.
Onlineatron's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:14
Onlineatron
God that line 'nobody at Valve wants to have to port it over' makes Valve seem like such a lazy developer it's unbelievable.

Come to think of it, they might be...

They created Half-life 2, which is awesome, but since then they have essentially just modded it. Nothing particuarly wrong with that but it's odd that they are sitting on a potential gold mine (Left 4 Dead would sell millions on PS3!!) and fail to do anything about it.
HiddenAHB's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:21
HiddenAHB
The fact that they mention the PS3 without any major pejorative adjective is already a Epic Win.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:21
Sharpless
I'm not going to say a word...
shadowcast's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:22
shadowcast
Thing is, they're Valve... they can do whatever the fuck they like.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:24
brainderailment
He beats me because
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:25
brainderailment
he loves me.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:26
JACK of No Trades
Still don't want your weak L4D game.
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:29
Strandli
But then again, who buys Orange Box for consoles, when we all know Valve is meant to be on a PC?
Buying for the PC, then I know I get the updates, with consoles there is always a doubt. So even if they made a PS3 version, I would still buy it for the PC.
Kris S's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:33
Kris S
Well I expected more comments in 21 minutes than this, it must still be passing down the fanboy grapevine, stampede soon.

I agree with what he's saying and Valve make games I love so they can do no wrong for me but has someone at Sony fucked someone at Valves wife/husband or something. They go on about how much they don't like the PS3 almost every day it seems.
Well whatever, hurry up with Episode 3 please :)
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:34
Steel Brotha
Valve...Pfft. Got famous off of one game, modded it 8 million times, and have done nothing great since. Seriously people need to stop sucking the Valve cock. If a small company like Ascoron (who went bankrupt after Sacred 2) or Gaiji Entertainment can develop for the PS3 then why can`t Valve grow a pair and learn?
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:34
GoldenGamerXero
WAH! WAH! WAH! A company isn't making a game, that I probably wouldn't care about without the angst, on my favourite system! WAH! WAH! WAH!

As someone whose seen a lot of the crappy ports on he Wii please understand that if a company don't think they can make a good game don't force them to make a really crappy one. God some people are whiny little dicks.

Everyone knows if you whine about it and call Vavle lazy pricks every two seconds they'll do exactly what you want! It's the law![/sarcasm]
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:36
aaronf
Just admit you don't have the talent, Valve.
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:42
Steel Brotha
@ GoldenGamerXero
crappy games on the wii have nothing to do with a company being lazy so why even bring that up? if your going to make a judgmental comment about how the consumer complains about getting screwed at least make it make sense. the fact is if you make games for a living you have to learn all platforms. watch next gen when MS goes blu-ray, what'll Valve do then? Probably go back to PC only and get pirated into bankruptcy. look ay Ascoro (creators of Sacred 2) if they had released the PS3/360 version of Sacred 2 along with the pc instead of 6 months after the fact, they would'nt be bankrupt.
Jack of Arcades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:45
Jack of Arcades
I only own a PS3. I don't mind too much. I think the Orange Box on PS3 was fine, though, and would prefer a crap port to no port.
eduardoflores5's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:46
eduardoflores5
Yeah, itīs really annoying when people wants to BUY your product. Pfft! Donīt they know itīs really annoying to PRODUCE it?!
Genebeef's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:47
Genebeef
@aaronf: no talent? sorry couldn't comprehend bullshit, too much fun with team fortress 2. you know, killzone 2's inspiration for a class system and their copy n paste maps.

and i like valve's approach - go big or go home. i'd rather have valve keep focus on the pc and fine tuning their approach. don't want them to lose focus and fuck it up for the rest of us. this isn't ubisoft here.
KrazyKraut's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:51
KrazyKraut
jim always loves stories like this one...
Kris S's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:55
Kris S
@SteelBrotha
I'm not convinced next-gen will have a built in drive. What's with the double post about Ascoro, nothing to do with anything that's happening here. Oh and Half-Life 2 sold MILLIONS on PC alone, I'm pretty sure Valve aren't worried about going bankrupt [i]if[/] they had to develop for PC only.
Sorry to go on but I'm getting sick of hearing Valve are lazy, you make a game and let me play it.
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 16:59
Steel Brotha
@ Genebeef
sorry man but they've got no talent. come on milking Half Life 2 for over 10 years is lame, L4D is just a modded Half Life with lots of zombies, and when it took them over 10 years to MAKE Team Fortress 2, laziness is shown. and what go big approach are you talking about. if they were to "go big" as you so eloquently put it they would have made Half Life 2 Episode 1, 2, and soon 3 as one big game. And for the final kabosh on my point, if Valve has so much talent then how come there are more third party mods for any valve game then first party? frickin free loaders
grasslunatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:13
grasslunatic
Everyone should be playing Valve games on the PC in the first place.
ouched's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:14
ouched
Not sure why all the Valve hate. Honestly, most of the people here bitching are probably posting on a PC. Unless its more than 10 years old, which is your own fault, you can probably run Valve's games. They aren't system busters like Crysis or even Far Cry 2.

You might have to turn down the resolution, textures and nerf shadow effects, but boo-goddamn-hoo if its so important you go online and troll Valve.

And you're posting on a Mac, most recent Macs can run Windows via boot camp, and if you can't do that, I'll refer you to the gimped PC crowd of having no one to blame but yourself.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:27
Holyetheline
I can understand their point, they are a small team and all...
sinny's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:31
sinny
Well, if you see the awful 360 version of Left4Dead then you should be thankful they didn't want to release that on PS3...
Play the PC version , it's the only one that deserves to be played.
redsun's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:45
redsun
yes the mods and new levels would be fun but why oh why would i want to play all hunched over with a smaller pc screen when i can relax on my couch and watch zombie heads explode on the big screen of my teevee? for me, it's simply about videogaming comfort.
alex1314159's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:45
alex1314159
*sniff i'm gonna miss left for dead.
ah, well I'm looking forward to getting fallout 3.
same thing is happening with splinter cell: convictions, sony is kinda losing out on exclusives but it now has different ones but they are not selling and.. arrrgggghhhhh!!!! godamnit i hate these stupid console wars, just so stupid.
jellydoodle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:45
jellydoodle
@Steel Brotha: You obviously have no idea what your talking about, ever heard of Steam? Valve games barely get pirated if at all. and what would it matter if the 360 went Blu-Ray? that just makes no sense. It's the complexity of the PS3's architecture that makes them not want to be bothered with it, nothing to do with Blu-Ray.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:46
hpv
That's okay, I'll keep picking up their titles for $10 used like I did with Orange Box, if I bother to buy them at all.

I'm still not sure what the big deal is about Valve. They've got some legitimate talent over there and they make good games, but nothing that really blows me away. Just good solid games that clearly were well thought out and iterated over many times, but that I still don't enjoy as much as games that are in development for a third of the time.

And Gabe Newell is a big fat idiot. So maybe I should give the rest of the company more credit since they clearly have to overcome that with every title they put out.
jellydoodle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:47
jellydoodle
@redsun: don't hunch? or you could just connect your PC to your TV and use a 360 controller. Even though a 20-22" pc screen is equivalent to a big tele because you are that much closer.
PhazonYoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:48
PhazonYoshi
Nobody hates valve. As a gamer, it's impossible to hate them, they've never made anything worse than "Fuckawesome A+++" class titles, to put basically everybody else to shame. If they don't want to port to the PS3, it's not because they don't have the talent, it's because they don't want to port it.
alex1314159's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:53
alex1314159
and they'll probably make you pay full 40 pounds for it like bioshock, fuck that. L4D is a good game but it's not that good that I really care about not playing it also, really? is it that hard to port for the PS3, orange box looked better on PS3 and other developers have no problem with porting their games, so fuck you valve!
benus's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:54
benus
i don't understand the part about the orange box on ps3...

i've played it and it was great... i can't afford a gaming pc or a 360 so i can't really notice any difference AND i don't care
i just wan't great game on the systeme i have, the fact that there's a better version on an other platform won't make me buy a 360 (i just can't) BUT i will absolutely buy a "not so perfect" version for the systeme i already have (especially if not perfect mean orange box ps3 quality)
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 17:58
Takeshi
I didn't like Half-Life. But we can be friends.

maybe...
Calleh's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 18:09
Calleh
Uh.
Can I just make a tiny point?
Valve doesn't handle the console ports of games, iirc, EA does that.
Valve decides if they go on console or not, but I /think/ they do nothing other then that.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 18:43
Black Nexus
kinda hard to care any more, don't get me wrong I would have liked to try it ( my 360s not online , and my pc is um, well not up to it) but if they don't wanna well thats there loss and someone else's gain. with so many dev's lining up for multiplayer of the year on my ps3 ( especially in the shooter department ) if they don't wanna try theres 7656788 other people that want my money.

but I can see why people are calling them lazy, they have said this so often and with so many others easily creating good ports , its starting to seem like an excuse.
parrothead's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 18:53
parrothead
I loved the Orange Box on my PS3. Not sure what was wrong with it. I guess Valve is looking out for my best interest.
Sentry's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 19:01
Sentry
For the life of me, I couldn't determine whether or not Jim was being ironic with that last bit. Either way, I agree whole-heartedly with the statements.

Valve IS a fucking hero, corporate entity and I still say they should punch people in the junk for calling ill against them.
Miguelcar808's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 19:34
Miguelcar808
It reminds me of an Dara O'Brian (yes it's spelled correctly) joke about psychics.
We at Valve are so good at making AAA games. That we suck at making AAA games.
The-Excel's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 20:11
The-Excel
@linuxguy:
I don't think "subtle" means what you think it means.
Kalmah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 20:14
Kalmah
Thank you Valve, I love you.
spironredmage's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 20:16
spironredmage
thanks valve!
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 20:31
Qraze
at least we got team ico. burned!
elysse's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 20:43
elysse
so... HL on PS2, outside company.. fail.
Orange Box on PS3, outside company...not only fail, but fail in long term support.

you know.. I'm seeing that the problem is the whole 'outside company' thing. I give Valve props for trying, I'm sorry it's taken them this long to say "look, we're not doing it on this console", and for all the times I have played a port and thought "why did they even bother hacking together this ported POS besides the desire to take my money?"... I'm glad Valve is manning up and saying NO MORE to shitty ports.

My mind puts it this way: You're doing decently with 2 fanboi sets, why piss off 3?
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 21:46
Midgetsnowman
as an avid pc gamer, the tears of ps3 fanboys who decide the best way to deal with this is to scream expletives or hilarious generalizations amuse me.
Torquemada's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 23:04
Torquemada
Suck it PS3! The Jaguar of the 21st century.
Interstate78's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/02/2009 23:28
Interstate78
Ok let me translate:

We dont have a team of PS3 programmers
Last time we outsourced a port of one of our games, it sucked
Therefore, unless we have an internal PS3 team, we will not support the platform
Oh and by the way no one at Valve gives a hoot so, not going to happen.

It's not as bad as it sounds. To make something, you need to know how to do it. They don't have any team for it and will not trust anybody else for ports. I can understand that.
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