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Don't even have a Vita, but I'm fucking EXCITED!
Jim since you are good at Firmware, will you post your impressions with us?
Jim since you are good at Firmware, will you post your impressions with us?
It's already out. Took four minutes to download and install and it was well worth it. I just wish I could do it again. :'(
Probably trying to prevent people from copying "unsupported" PS1 games from their PS3. Seems like something they'd do.
Any word on gameplay changes or a bump in graphics quality?
I hope so, otherwise they're just milking the Firmware franchise...
I hope so, otherwise they're just milking the Firmware franchise...
Stability improvement generally mean stuff to stop the console from actually getting games as an emulator machine.
To be fair, my Vita really have frozen more than a couple of times for no good reason, so I welcome some more stability
The firmware patches the Monster Hunter crash which closes the VHBL exploit
We all saw it coming when Sony didn't pull the game though. This is Sony; they HATE unauthorized code running on their systems even though its ridiculously easy to do
We all saw it coming when Sony didn't pull the game though. This is Sony; they HATE unauthorized code running on their systems even though its ridiculously easy to do
Firmware needs an HD collection. I hate the episodic model. I feel like late adopters are being denied content.
Normally my response to this article would be "so you'd rather them just not fix software problems if they have them?" But the real answer is obvious: you don't actually care. As long as you get to keep writing news stories like this about *something*, you'll be happy.
And the industry moves on.
And the industry moves on.
Oh come off it Jim, you make such a big f'in deal about nothing.
Oh whoopie a firmware update once in a while, I turned on my PC yesterday and had 13 updates that it downloaded and wanted to install.
How about doing a post every time Windows has an update, you'll soon realise how petty and insignificant these posts really are.
Oh whoopie a firmware update once in a while, I turned on my PC yesterday and had 13 updates that it downloaded and wanted to install.
How about doing a post every time Windows has an update, you'll soon realise how petty and insignificant these posts really are.
@whiners
Compare the frequency of PSN's updates with XBL updates or Wii/3DS updates. Also compare the length of time each update takes. And the amount of significant changes that come with each update.
Regardless, even if other systems were just as bad, it's still an annoyance.
At least Jim is having fun with the whole thing.
Compare the frequency of PSN's updates with XBL updates or Wii/3DS updates. Also compare the length of time each update takes. And the amount of significant changes that come with each update.
Regardless, even if other systems were just as bad, it's still an annoyance.
At least Jim is having fun with the whole thing.
@thomas & ctg - allow me to clue you in here.
Most companies that do firmware updates keep the process as rare or invisible as possible as to not frustrate or stymie the user. On top of that, they often add features and stability making the use of an iPhone or 3DS more enjoyable.
360 misses the mark on this at times, but the do add feature, stability and keep the updates rare. Pretty much the same as Windows in many respects.
But Sony's firmware updates are frequent, sometimes cause new problems, sometimes add features while other times taking them away and "stability" is not explained.
So we don't know what we're getting and must corroborate our experiences with others to sort out what Sony did.
It's a bit screwy.
Most companies that do firmware updates keep the process as rare or invisible as possible as to not frustrate or stymie the user. On top of that, they often add features and stability making the use of an iPhone or 3DS more enjoyable.
360 misses the mark on this at times, but the do add feature, stability and keep the updates rare. Pretty much the same as Windows in many respects.
But Sony's firmware updates are frequent, sometimes cause new problems, sometimes add features while other times taking them away and "stability" is not explained.
So we don't know what we're getting and must corroborate our experiences with others to sort out what Sony did.
It's a bit screwy.
^ Not to mention all this update really does is take the power back from the consumer by removing some unofficial features
The best part is they block PSN if you're on 1.8 to give you an incentive to update, as if people playing Cave Story on their Vita were hurting anyone
The best part is they block PSN if you're on 1.8 to give you an incentive to update, as if people playing Cave Story on their Vita were hurting anyone
@thomas1980
HAHAHAHAHA, the best defense you have is comparing it to a PC with potentially thousands of third party software each with the capability of independent updates!
Anyways, I'm just curious if these are mandatory installs. If they are optional then maybe Jim is overreacting, but if they shut off PSN service like I'm guessing, then Sony really needs to come off it. My short experience with a PS3 had me waiting 10 minutes as it downloaded some patch/firmware for a damn DEMO
HAHAHAHAHA, the best defense you have is comparing it to a PC with potentially thousands of third party software each with the capability of independent updates!
Anyways, I'm just curious if these are mandatory installs. If they are optional then maybe Jim is overreacting, but if they shut off PSN service like I'm guessing, then Sony really needs to come off it. My short experience with a PS3 had me waiting 10 minutes as it downloaded some patch/firmware for a damn DEMO
Umm... can we get some kind of NSFW disclaimer or something? If pubes are in a picture, it can be considered porn, and it can get people fired.
@The Silent Protagonist
Lol save your condescension. I'm well aware of how dreadfully annoying updates are on Sony platforms. We're all well aware of that fact. Believe it or not, Jim Sterling didn't break that story. It's not news anymore.
HOWEVER, now that we're stuck with same software platform the PSP established in 2004 which was largely carried onto the PS3 and Vita, would you rather have problems with your device and not get them fixed, or would you rather have them fixed? It's a simple question. You can make all the analogies you want to other platforms, you can talk about how great it is in a different ecosystem, but at the end of the day, this is what you got if you bought a Vita.
Do you want your shit to be broken, or do you want it to work? Cause I can guarantee you the second the Vita has a software problem there's gonna be a 200+ comment article here with people bitching and moaning about it, and Sterling will be right there to write the snarky, sarcastic content of the post. And where does that get anyone?
And please don't pull the hacking/emulator/"homebrew" card. I've seen you on this site a lot, I've spoken with you before, so I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're more intelligent than that. Let's not get into that debate.
Lol save your condescension. I'm well aware of how dreadfully annoying updates are on Sony platforms. We're all well aware of that fact. Believe it or not, Jim Sterling didn't break that story. It's not news anymore.
HOWEVER, now that we're stuck with same software platform the PSP established in 2004 which was largely carried onto the PS3 and Vita, would you rather have problems with your device and not get them fixed, or would you rather have them fixed? It's a simple question. You can make all the analogies you want to other platforms, you can talk about how great it is in a different ecosystem, but at the end of the day, this is what you got if you bought a Vita.
Do you want your shit to be broken, or do you want it to work? Cause I can guarantee you the second the Vita has a software problem there's gonna be a 200+ comment article here with people bitching and moaning about it, and Sterling will be right there to write the snarky, sarcastic content of the post. And where does that get anyone?
And please don't pull the hacking/emulator/"homebrew" card. I've seen you on this site a lot, I've spoken with you before, so I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're more intelligent than that. Let's not get into that debate.
how do pubes = porn? you cant have sex with your pubes. i guess unless you live in japan or something where shitting on people is fine, but pubic hair is gross.
The only problem here is the people complaining about firmware updates are no better then the ones trying to defend it.
Everything has updates weither you like it or not. Obviously sony products seem to push them more than others.
Majority of complaints is that it takes away the freedom of a machine. Good! Kill off those fucking pirates. And fuck homebrew because it isnt worth the problems.
Another complaint: takes too long. Dont blame sony on that but your shitty internet.
And as unecessary as most of these firmware updates are (valid complaint) the vitas updates are no where near as long and takes seconds to install.
Everything has updates weither you like it or not. Obviously sony products seem to push them more than others.
Majority of complaints is that it takes away the freedom of a machine. Good! Kill off those fucking pirates. And fuck homebrew because it isnt worth the problems.
Another complaint: takes too long. Dont blame sony on that but your shitty internet.
And as unecessary as most of these firmware updates are (valid complaint) the vitas updates are no where near as long and takes seconds to install.
@sayword
Plenty of stuff in your post is questionable, but I just wanted to address the "shitty internet" part. How do you explain when people have Xboxs and PS3s, where the xbox literally updates within seconds and I hear nothing but horror stories about PS3's updates? Or how do you explain Jim's anecdotes about it taking upwards of 40 minutes to uninstall a game, which happens independent of internet?
Plenty of stuff in your post is questionable, but I just wanted to address the "shitty internet" part. How do you explain when people have Xboxs and PS3s, where the xbox literally updates within seconds and I hear nothing but horror stories about PS3's updates? Or how do you explain Jim's anecdotes about it taking upwards of 40 minutes to uninstall a game, which happens independent of internet?
Its not fair that the Vita gets all the love!
They need to port these updates to the PC ASAP!
*Insert shut up and take all my money .jpg*
They need to port these updates to the PC ASAP!
*Insert shut up and take all my money .jpg*
"Another complaint: takes too long. Dont blame sony on that but your shitty internet."
Bullshit. It's shitty PS internet. Xbox 360, PC, and even Wii updates take way quicker than PlayStation ones. It's fucking embarrassing.
Bullshit. It's shitty PS internet. Xbox 360, PC, and even Wii updates take way quicker than PlayStation ones. It's fucking embarrassing.
@llort het the firmwares take like 3 minutes for me and it takes like 30 seconds for me to install stuff. I am not saying it doesn't happen to people but I'm not sure if you can blanket the whole thing. That's how the Internet works. 100 products are sold. 90 people are happy with it but 10 people post their unhappiness so that's what people see. I honestly don't really care about console war crap or anything. Just playing devils advocate here for ya.
@ Ardent Snow when Sony disable your PSN account because its a foreign one, making all the games youve purchased worthless, or they continue to charge you for PS+ services even though you tried to stop your subscription by sending countless emails, or they waste hours of your time through MANDATORY updates on games and software, if any of these things happen to you (and if you use the PSN as a South African they most likely will), then you will warm up to XBL like a women who is running away from her abusive husband into the arms of Kevin Costner mate.
@Dario Silva I don't have those problem. That isn't relevant to what I said. I'm not arguing "my console
Is better" I am not 12. All i said was I haven't had any problems.
Is better" I am not 12. All i said was I haven't had any problems.
"And please don't pull the hacking/emulator/"homebrew" card."
It's a fact dude. This update has been ripped apart and its sole purpose was to close homebrew. Regardless of how you feel about it you have to understand that the most illegal thing you can do on a Vita right now as far as homebrew goes is run a SNES emulator because of the lack of access permissions available to coders through the PSP exploits
If you think that taking away features from the system because Sony perceives it as a potential loss in revenue is ok then I don't know what to tell you except you're looking like any other know-it-all 4chan kid who really knows jack all about business or programming
Also Sony's servers are throttled which is why it takes forever to download stuff. That's pretty annoying too, mostly when you're a digital customer trying to avoid getting slapped by another dead Sony format next-gen
It's a fact dude. This update has been ripped apart and its sole purpose was to close homebrew. Regardless of how you feel about it you have to understand that the most illegal thing you can do on a Vita right now as far as homebrew goes is run a SNES emulator because of the lack of access permissions available to coders through the PSP exploits
If you think that taking away features from the system because Sony perceives it as a potential loss in revenue is ok then I don't know what to tell you except you're looking like any other know-it-all 4chan kid who really knows jack all about business or programming
Also Sony's servers are throttled which is why it takes forever to download stuff. That's pretty annoying too, mostly when you're a digital customer trying to avoid getting slapped by another dead Sony format next-gen
@ctg867
Whether or not you want to believe it, "improves software stability" is generally code for trying to prevent homebrew and piracy exploits.
Sony does it, and Nintendo did it with every Wii system menu update. Nintendo would sometimes sit on a minor improvement that they could advertise, but the menu updates were largely driven by attempts to stop homebrew exploits. And Nintendo eventually stopped bothering with minor improvements. (Heck, one of Nintendo's "improvements" to the Photo Channel was to *remove* its mp3 playback ability.)
People involved with homebrew and piracy take these updates apart to see what they do. They have to, to see whether or not the updates affect their exploits. And they are quite willing to report when an update does nothing (or almost nothing) besides try to address homebrew/piracy. (Though in the case of Nintendo, they seemed to have extra fun giving such reports, because the reports also tended to include the news that Nintendo had botched the patch job either by ignoring other exploits or simply getting the patch wrong.)
Whether or not you want to believe it, "improves software stability" is generally code for trying to prevent homebrew and piracy exploits.
Sony does it, and Nintendo did it with every Wii system menu update. Nintendo would sometimes sit on a minor improvement that they could advertise, but the menu updates were largely driven by attempts to stop homebrew exploits. And Nintendo eventually stopped bothering with minor improvements. (Heck, one of Nintendo's "improvements" to the Photo Channel was to *remove* its mp3 playback ability.)
People involved with homebrew and piracy take these updates apart to see what they do. They have to, to see whether or not the updates affect their exploits. And they are quite willing to report when an update does nothing (or almost nothing) besides try to address homebrew/piracy. (Though in the case of Nintendo, they seemed to have extra fun giving such reports, because the reports also tended to include the news that Nintendo had botched the patch job either by ignoring other exploits or simply getting the patch wrong.)
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