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Borderlands Siren skill not working, Gearbox knows photo

It appears as if a top-tier Siren skill in Borderlands is about as useful as a Claptrap is while on its square ass, spewing sparks about and such. MTV Multiplayer points out that Phase Strike -- a melee attack that can be used during Phase Walk -- isn’t delivering the wicked level of damage that its description promises, even when the skill is maxed to the highest level. A bummer, right?

Right. But the sorta good news is that Gearbox knows there’s a problem. In an official message board thread Gearbox designer MongooseDog admitted as much, saying “We’ve been doing some investigation into Phase Strike and it does not appear to be working as intended.”

He didn’t suggest Gearbox would fix the problem, but we’re guessing the company that fixed the PS3-specific PSN issue within days of launch won’t have a problem slinging an update or two to consumers in the near future.

Just as a note, distraught Siren people: the Beserker’s punching skills work just fine. In fact, I didn’t even know there were three other characters in the game. I’ve been too busy running up on dudes and pummeling faces -- or third testicles -- until something pops and showers my character in a spray of glorious gore.







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Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 08:22
Steel Brotha
What the hell happened to Quality Control.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 08:23
Xzyliac
MongooseDog

Invader Zim references are awesome.

That is all.
Br0th3rGr1mm's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 08:31
Br0th3rGr1mm
There are a number of other skill glitches that are being reported that I'm sure they are looking into as well.
reindall's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 08:32
reindall
Release it for PC, now!
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 08:49
Sexualchocolate
I remember when developers TESTED games before release.

Then again, I live a mile or so from Codemasters UK headquarters, and I've seen what they pay "Games Testers" - And it's not worth getting out of bed for.

It's a difficult one, i'd give my right bollock to get into the dev industry, one would imagine tester is a little bit of a foot in the door, but to drop to less than half of my income to take such a job is just impossible.
KaL YoshiKa's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 09:08
KaL YoshiKa
This is so odd...I mean this would have to be some accidental bug in the build they sent as the gold master.

logically there's no way they wouldn't have tested the skill sets...right...RIGHT?!
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 09:16
Shadowiii
Huh. I've been too busy throwing my FLAMING BIRD (yes, it is ON FIRE) at dudes and laughing as they catch on fire and little 5s and 10s pop out.
Weird this slipped past though. Still a downright fantastic game.
CRAZYAPE69's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 09:34
CRAZYAPE69
Is this the skill in which she turns into a man and rapes brick?
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 10:07
Tarvu
Heh, I live 20 minutes from Lionhead Studios, I don't want to test either of the things I know they are working on.

And after reading that I think I will have to play as a Beserker.
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 10:07
lewness
Damn it. I was set on buying it and playing as a Siren. I do expect they're smart and fast enough for a quick patch.
20 Sided Death's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 10:19
20 Sided Death
hopefully they'll patch this before I get to that top tier skill. I was really looking forward to doing all that phasewalk butt-punching
ttocs's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 10:31
ttocs
Ah, the Sniper is the way to go. Why get blood all over yourself when you can pop their brains out from 2 clicks away
TheJesusNinja26's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 10:41
TheJesusNinja26
My gosh this game is addicting! FUN is the word with Borderlands.
AutomaticZen's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 10:41
AutomaticZen
@sexualchocolate

You remember a different time than I do. I remember if your game did have a bug, you were SOL on a console because generally the fix would be quitely snuck into later versions of the game, without any sort of notice.

Off the top of my head, the Mad Dog glitch in GTA SA, Metal Gear Solid had an elevator bug, Chrono Cross had a game freeze on the first disc, Star Ocean Second had a blue screen bug, Guile's handcuffs trick in SF2, FFIV's dupe trick, FFVI's Vanish/X-Zone trick, Mega Man 3's zombie glitch, Pokemon's full of goddamn glitches, the infinite JP glitch in FFT, etc.

You get the idea. But don't let me get in the way of nostalgia.
ErbilT's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 10:43
ErbilT
I agree that this issue sucks, but after working in QA for almost four years, the only response I have for people who blame QA is that they generally have some very idealized way that the game industry works. In truth, they most likely have no idea what they are talking about.

You know, there is the chance that QA actually found the issue, reported the issue through the proper channels and the game was released anyway. It has happened before, I'm sure it will happen again.

I'm convinced that there is no such thing as a "bug-free" game.
TriplZer0's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 10:53
TriplZer0
Brad would choose to play as Brick. It's the only character in the game whose pecs slightly resemble Brad's beautiful sculpted chesticles.
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 10:53
Char Aznable
I'm only a few hours into the game, but damn, the soldier is looking beastly. He can spawn a turret that attacks enemies, acts as a shield, and can restore your health and ammo. Plus you can heal guys by shooting them in the face, come on.
Frohike's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 10:55
Frohike
@ErbilT. I work in a shop that actually QAs it's code. Shit like this shouldn't happen, "idealization" or not. This isn't clipping or some minor bug. I get what you're saying, but QA or rather their QA *process* dropped the ball here.
Jordan Devore's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 10:57
Jordan Devore
Yep, the soldier rocks hardcore.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 11:06
Xzyliac
@AutonaticZen and ErbilT

I side with you guys.

As far as whether or not the process dropped the ball there's a good chance they were pressured to pump the game out on time and if the bug was found was overlooked amidst a crunch. Or even more possible is they knew about the bug but had contractual milestones to make and the bug wasn't discovered at a tine where they could rewrite the code and meet the milestone. So they said "Screw it, we can patch it," in which case Yiu can argue it's the fault of the director for not syaing to the publisher "Hey we've got this bug and we need an extra week," or maybe just a series of unfortunate events.

I don't see how this bug is istantly the fault of QA when we can't say for sure the bug went undisclosed.
Jaren Face's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 11:21
Jaren Face
*After putting two points into Phase Strike this morning, wonders why it isn't doing what the description claims*

Oh... that's why. I guess until this is patched I'll just re-roll all my skill points into a different tree. Bummer since the assassins one gives you some pretty nice Critical/Bullet Damage increase.
bardock's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 11:42
bardock
i have played enough xmen legends 2 that this doesnt even bother me. the regenerating health during phasewalk skill works so thats good enough for me.
ErbilT's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 11:43
ErbilT
@Frohike: While I do agree that this shouldn't happen, I'm just saying that it is very possible that something this major could have been found and the bugs could have either been waived, or that it could have been classified as a known shippable that will be addressed in the future. The responsibility in both of those instances would land in the hands of the producer.

I’m not saying at all that it’s not possible that QA dropped the ball, but I have been on the receiving end a handful of time in which big, game-breaking issues were reported and for one reason or another, a producer justified writing off the bug using some BS excuse “most of them being listed as ‘low frequency”. In most of these cases, I could promise you that the message boards would light up with people complaining about the issue, some of the issues being very major.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 11:59
Holyetheline
I started a campaign as the Hunter and Siren... you make me want to try Brick next! =D
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 12:29
Darren Nakamura
Man, my first instincts were either for Hunter or Siren, but after what I've read, it really sounds like they are the worst choices.
fulldamage's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 12:49
fulldamage
Normally, I'm all ready to jump to the defense of the QA effort when people start ranting about bugs -- but this isn't a weird crash or some problem with multiplayer net code, it's not what some people would call "broken" because they disagree with the design -- that's a literally broken feature that does not do what it says it does. THAT type of bug should not get out the door.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 12:58
mix
My buddy came over with is PS3 and we played 9 hours straight with a LAN game and polised off a 15 pack of beer, was an awesome night!

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The only "glitch" or "error" that I have encountered/found (PS3) is the fact that the gun that I equipped on my left d-pad is actually on the left button and the right is on the left..........annoying but not game breaking.
Charlietime's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 14:11
Charlietime
i dont know about anyone else, but my siren will do crazy punch damage the first melee i do coming out of phasewalk, like as soon as it ends if i blast she does the increased hit.
Adam11's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 14:39
Adam11
I'm loving this game but my main single-player character is siren so I'm hoping they fix by the time I get a bit higher in levels. I haven't gotten to play w/ friends yet (waiting on them to get the game) but I made a Brick to use for team play. This game is super fun and i imagine will be way more fun with friends!
Modern Robot's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/22/2009 15:35
Modern Robot
Borderlands, even with the current problems such as this and some glitched achievements, it kicks ass on a consistent level. I have yet to play with a full part of four, any takers?
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