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Borderlands not sent out to die, selling quite well photo

The day before its release, videogame analyst and professional blacksmith Michael Pachter accused 2K Games and Gearbox Software of sending Borderlands "out to die." He claimed that releasing it in 2009 was wrong, and that Modern Warfare 2 and Dragon Age: Origins, despite not releasing until next month, were going to "kick its butt."

Looks like Pachter may have been wrong on this one. 

Gearbox's Randy Pitchford couldn't be happier with Borderlands' launch, which apparently is doing very healthily indeed. According the studio boss, Borderlands is already becoming hard to find, and he's urged gamers to pick one up quickly if they want to play it. 

"Getting reports from everywhere that Borderlands is selling out," tweeted the Gearbox chief. "If you want a copy, grab one fast. Supply and demand."

Okay, sure, so Pitchford is probably hyping his game and trying to instigate panic buys, but it sounds like he's proud of the launch in any case, which is obviously a good thing. I still don't get how the success of Dragon Age and Modern Warfare 2 was ever meant to take away from any potential success of Borderlands. Sure, they'll sell better, but that doesn't mean Borderlands has to sell badly. It's not like there are only a finite number of sales to go around and they can only be taken by a select few games. In any case, it seems like Borderlands is not dying at all, and with a good few weeks before the truly massive games arrive, I'd say it's got time to do quite well. 








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Spykron's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 08:42
Spykron
we sold out of the 360 version by 2pm and only had 2 ps3 ones left at the end of the day. very good launch at my store.
midnightskulker's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 08:44
midnightskulker
This may be due to the fact that the game was/is on sale for 40$ across Canada. Similar to Batman AA. There are some PS3 copies here and there but the 360 version is pretty much sold out. I didn't make it to BestBuy in time :(
koehler83's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 08:46
koehler83
The sooner we all just assume Pachter is wrong, the better off we'll all be... except Pachter, who undoubtedly will be looking for another job, likely in the french fry preparation industry.
CRKFIEND's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 08:48
CRKFIEND
Good I'm glad. From the hour I've dropped into this game thus far, I think I will really enjoy it.
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 08:50
pascuz46
Good, Ill be interested to see when the sales charts come back for the month how BL did.
Irrational Bee's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 08:50
Irrational Bee
It's always nice to see an underdog do well, especially at this time of the year.
Draxxlith's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 08:50
Draxxlith
the best buy I work at ran out by noon yesterday, when I picked up the last copy for 360, I was worried they hadn't shipped many, but it sounds like it is actually doing well, as it deserves to. Go Borderlands go!
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 08:54
MrSadistic
Well that's all fine and dandy, but can you let the retailers/internet sell their PC copies now?
Draxxlith's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 08:56
Draxxlith
@koehler
Why hate on Pachter, because he made a prediction based on market trends, which is his job? Keep in mind, he may be a genius, but everyone assumes he's dumb because they only see his obvious predictions. If he wants to stay in a job, he isn't going to give away any detailed or nonobvious predictions, but he needs to make these obvious ones so companies considering his services don't think he's off his rocker. And you may think a lot of his stuff is obvious, but looking back, Sony clearly hasn't...
lyfeforce's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 08:57
lyfeforce
Excellent. Hopefully this means the multiplayer will be nice and busy this weekend.
Your Moms Hot Lover's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:02
Your Moms Hot Lover
can you stop giving Pachter headline space now?
MetalRufflez's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:06
MetalRufflez
Hey Jim, you were really really excited about this game, but I still haven't seen any comment from you about it. Have you played it? Or Demon's Souls is still consuming yours (soul XD)?
JamnOnTheOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:09
JamnOnTheOne
I'd love to know how many copies were shipped to stores. Anything can "sell out" if a limited number of copies are available.

Let's wait for the NPD numbers before we dub anything as a success.

@Jim
"It's not like there are only a finite number of sales to go around and they can only be taken by a select few games."

Not true, entirely. Forgiving the generalities, the mentality of the "gamer" assumes that they can buy and maybe finish it in 3 weeks (assuming they have interest in COD and/or DA). The average consumer thinks why buy this game now if COD is coming in less than 3 weeks and I intend on spending all my time with that? There isn't enough game value in those 3 weeks to warrant $60.

I have some interest in Borderlands, but I'm not going to buy it because COD and DA are right around the corner. I know what my friends and I are going to spend the majority of our gaming time with, so Borderlands loses multiple sales. Maybe next summer I'll pick it up on Goozex or Ebay.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:13
Shadowiii
I bought it. It's fantastic. My friend came over and after like 5 minutes of watching was convinced he needed it too, so we could co-op. So he's getting it too.
Really, really good game. Everyone should get it.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:15
Jim Sterling
MetalRufflez: I had a debug copy, but no debug unit. Then I got a debug unit, but was told a retail version (always better) was coming to me on launch day. Then there was a mailing error. So now I won't get a copy until tomorrow.

It is a special kind of torment.
wittynickname's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:16
wittynickname
C'mon, Jim. Really?

This story could just as well be, "Gearbox says, 'Nuh uh!'" All we're going on here is the word of a guy who, as you admitted, has a lot to gain by implying that the game is in short supply and needs to be bought NOW OR ELSE MISS OUT FOREVER, while we don't know how many copies are shipping to retailers to constitute a sellout in the first place.

Is it less impressive if they're selling out of five copies instead of fifty? Depends on your stance, I suppose. But if the makers of Daisy Fuentes Pilates cobble together a press release saying how impressed and encouraged they are by its sales, do we simply assume it's one of the better-selling Wii games by extrapolation?

As much as I hate to be the guy who ends his point by saying, "I'm just saying,"...
thevit585's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:16
thevit585
Up to Level 7, and I'm hooked on this game. The art style, sense of humor, and obviously the gameplay is really conducive to a great experience. It's like an FPS for people who have OCD, it's right up my alley.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:16
CelicaCrazed
I'll be taking advantage of the $40 Canadian deal either tomorrow or Friday if it's still going on.
Insanity-Oo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:17
Insanity-Oo
So, I need some advice: This or demon souls?
Ganjookie's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:21
Ganjookie
Demon's Soul is pretty kick ass
CRKFIEND's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:21
CRKFIEND
This
reindall's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:22
reindall
@Insanity-Oo
That's a difficult one. Personally I would take DS, as I can't stand console FPSes. But the only correct answer has to be - both.
Dr Milkdad's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:23
Dr Milkdad
@Insanity-Oo

Demons Souls. Borderlands is a good game, but Demons Souls is a great game.
I see Borderlands as a game that's just cutting into my Demons Souls play time.

Still good though.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:27
Sexualchocolate
I'm going to buy this next Friday - payday.

Have already overspent on AAA PS3 games this month. Demon's Souls, Uncharted 2, Borderlands! What a month!

Oh yeah, obligatory FUCK ACTIVISION - I'm not buying MW2 for shit.
I almost started too feel a little like i wanted it, then i watched an online gameplay video and it was like "shit, it's just more COD" weird realisation, was almost taken by the hype, but a little reality check brought me back in line. I care not for COD now, been there, done that, prestiged the old ones too many times to really care about the new one.

Holding out for MAG - Hell yes.
agentgray's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:28
agentgray
Holy crap.

What am I gonna do if Steam runs out of...? Well, you know.
deadline's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:29
deadline
Picked up my copy for XBox at my local Toys-R-Us. I originally asked for the PS3 version but they said they only got 3 copies and they were "crushed" during shipment - not sure how many XBox copies they received.

Anyway, the best thing about this game is that I was able to convince my wife (who has never played FPS games) to play co-op with me. Also, I'm nearly done playing thru the Halo:ODST campaign co-op with my son, so now I can play with him as well.

Of course if I'm playing by myself it is still Demon's Souls :)
funran's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:32
funran
WHY IS THE PC VERSION OUT A WEEK LATER, THIS IS A GAY THING!
matrixdude171's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:37
matrixdude171
lol, nice irony
theswitcher's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:44
theswitcher
Has Pachter been right about anything ever?

When's the HD Wii coming out?
jsutcliffe's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:48
jsutcliffe
The potential for games being sold out is a pretty good argument in favor of digital distribution. Not that PC games selling out is ever a worry (more difficult would be finding a store that fricken stocks them), but I've never tried to buy something from Steam and have them tell me they've run out of copies ;)
fundando's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:49
fundando
Please top caring about what Pachter has to say. He is never right and when he is, it's not like he predicted something everyone else couldn't call.
Shellsh0cker's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 09:55
Shellsh0cker
ARRRGH Why do I have to wait a week. Seriously, the game's already gone gold, hasn't it? It's not like I have to wait for a disc to be printed, I got it on Steam! WHY?
TKurata's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:00
TKurata
Enough Pachter posts...Dtoid is like a Pachter Speaks RSS feed at times.
Leathersoup's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:03
Leathersoup
OMG It's terrible!! Copies of Borderlands are dying everywhere!! The Humanity!!
TheJesusNinja26's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:06
TheJesusNinja26
Borderlands just punched Patcher in his Wedbush!!!
Roryzilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:07
Roryzilla
Most Gamestops my friend went to were sold out, and I got the second to last copy at the gamestop near me.
Your Moms Hot Lover's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:11
Your Moms Hot Lover
The best thing about Pachter is that all gamers can unite and vent their hate against one common enemy. He is literally trying to heal the console flamewars all by himself. He's practically a saint.
Lost i t W's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:13
Lost i t W
I bought it because it was $40.00 at Wally Mart. It was a good buy, too, as the "Diablo with Guns" gameplay is turning out to be quite addictive.
TorpedoTed's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:22
TorpedoTed
I got it on Monday and havent stopped playing it!! Infact i got Forxa 3 through yesterday and havent even tried it out yet!!

LOVING Borderlands!
TheJesusNinja26's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:32
TheJesusNinja26
Why doesn't this game have some ad deal with TACO BELL?

"Make a run for the BORDERlands"

Hard plastic logo cups, toys, clap trap combo, bandit burrito, skagzilla sauce...think of it, t'would be grand!

Randy and @mikeyface get on that would ya? Also if you want to hire me on in your marketing department my contact info is on my profile.

BORDERLANDS ROCKS!!!!!!
xenon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:39
xenon
To a degree, there *is* a finite number of sales, because the gamers' bugdets worldwide are not infinite. Some people, I obviously don't know how many, will not buy MW2 because they spent their money on Borderlands, and some others won't buy Borderlands to save for MW2. This doesn't make your point completely invalid, though.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:43
VWGTI
I really, really hope this sells well. This is the perfect game for me. I want to see more. You get all of the great MMO gameplay elements minus all of the annoying players.
hawtpokkitz's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:53
hawtpokkitz
I played it until my fingers ached last night...
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:56
manasteel88
For borderlands right now its all about what retail has bought up. Which means that Best Buy and Gamestop believe Borderlands will do well. We'll see how it does over the next 3 months to see if it was a bonafide hit or not.

This doesn't prove Pachter wrong at all as he was talking about a Bioshock-esque sails drop when the Dragon Age and CoDMW2 come out. He didn't say it wasn't going to sell at its launch, he said "If it’s an RPG, Dragon Age is going to kick its butt; and if it’s a shooter, Call of Duty or something else is going to kick its butt." Meaning that as soon as those games launch, this game will get blown away in sales.

I agree with Pachter that this might have the Bioshock effect. Releases to good sales and good praise and then has sales disappear as soon as Modern Warfare drops.

I'm not sure if I'm giving Dragon Age the same strength as Mass Effect had during 07, but I would say that its gonna knock into Borderlands. Pachter is making a good guess and I wouldn't be shocked if this gets forgotten during the high traffic of the holiday season.

Another factor is that people are going to pay for sure things. Gearbox doesn't have the pedigree of Bioware or Infinity Ward. In this questionable economy, people are looking to brands they know and love. I still think this game will have a long sales life ala Bioshock, but its week to week sales are going to crash as soon as MW2 drops
TheJesusNinja26's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:57
TheJesusNinja26
I only got to play Borderlands for about 30 min last night because of crying babies and being so tired I fell a sleep at 9:30, but here is what I noticed in my 30 minutes (playing solo, offline, w/ Mordecai –Sniper Class).

Loved -
1. The game is gorgeous! The cell shaded art is amazing in HD. It’s what Prince of Persia tried to do, but much better.
2. The humor is great
3. It handles much like Call of Duty 4
4. The music & sound track is so well thought out.
5. Leveling up is really cool, so much more rewarding then just chugging through da’ haloz with the same stuff the whole time.
6. You can pick the 3 colors of your character’s duds.

Will take some getting used to because it’s not a traditional straight shooter–
1. I think I picked the hardest class to start off with sniper/auto-pistol, but with time will deal more damage.
2. This game is not easy, the enemies are not push overs.
3. There is no way to adjust the aiming sensitivity. (This may get better as you level up and your accuracy changes)
4. There is a lady who just shows up in your mind/vision/eyeball that tells you what to do every once in a while like a spirit guide.


Didn’t like so much –
1. The story is introduced sort of abruptly, but this game isn’t so much about story as it is shoot ‘em up, loot drops, and co-op’s. So not that big of a deal.
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:58
Velt
I have to try that game out...
maybe later since im interested in the coop and well... south america sucks for gamers.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:58
Elsa
I'm playing the splitscreen version with my husband and so far it's pretty good (though the splitscreen was obviously added in at the last minute and the menus don't fit and it is a very roughly done). I didn't even realize it had splitscreen in addition to online co-op. (though another note annoying note about the splitscreen is that he also has to be Elsa... the game doesn't allow for a second PSN to be used like LBP, thus no trophies for that person... and onscreen even if you give your character a new name, it just uses the PSN user-name - which is annoying). So we're both "Elsa" I guess.
We may eventually pick up a second copy and just play co-op online using the two PS3 units... but I guess we would have to start the game all over again because I doubt it saves the two splitscreen characters for use.
Fearzone's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 10:59
Fearzone
With some of the other releases **cough cough** Aion **cough cough** Brutal Legend getting disappointing reviews from sites I trust, Borderlands keeps going higher and higher on my list.

Wish there were a demo.
stevenxonward's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/21/2009 11:03
stevenxonward
Yeah! I was worried that this would be a casualty of piracy.

I'm about an hour in and my only complaint is that the field of vision doesn't seem wide enough. It feels kinda cramped.
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