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That's great to hear.. Borderlands was terrible to get online on PC with the gamespy mish mash. More likely to purchase it now, I felt a little burned by the experience with the first game.
This is good news. Amazing how every "Origin Exclusive!" news just pisses a bunch of gamers off, while Steamworks is so clearly seen as a benefit - and a clear example of how far Origin needs to come to even get close to Steam, both in terms of technical capability and consumer support.
I bought the first Borderlands on 360 originally and then eventually got it super cheap on PC during a Steam sale with all the DLC. I enjoyed it significantly more on PC (controls, graphics etc.) but have to say the online was less than useless. Hopefully this means there will be more of a PC online community this time around. The first game is probably one of my favourites of the last 5 years. Can't wait for 2.
Maybe it will include proper FOV adjustment this time... Anyway, in the case of Steamworks, I buy most of my PC games from Steam so it's great for me, but I don't normally like it when publishers force people to use a thing (such as Steam).
Isn't Borderlands 2 built using Unreal Engine 3?
If so, they could easily make a Mac build and take advantage of SteamPlay for a simultaneous release across PC and Mac.
I wish they would do that...
If so, they could easily make a Mac build and take advantage of SteamPlay for a simultaneous release across PC and Mac.
I wish they would do that...
Kept trying to bug Burch about this, but he never replied. Glad to see this--time to put my Amazon Pre-order in so I get the bonus stuff!
*sigh*
I was afraid of this. I guess I'll be waiting for a big sale to get it on the PC now. I'd rather have a console copy, which DOESN'T have DRM in it.
The first Borderlands on the PC was great, with just a disc check. This news? Not so much. But I saw it coming when the first game eventually hit Steam.
I was afraid of this. I guess I'll be waiting for a big sale to get it on the PC now. I'd rather have a console copy, which DOESN'T have DRM in it.
The first Borderlands on the PC was great, with just a disc check. This news? Not so much. But I saw it coming when the first game eventually hit Steam.
Best news I've heard about this game so far. Having to sign up for fucking GameSpy or whatever they used and exchange those new usernames with my Steam friends was just horrible. This is an instant buy if they've found a better way to play with players of higher levels.
@Pedro
Jesus, get off it already dude. Not all drm is created equal. This is fine AND an upgrade over the first games God awful online component.
Jesus, get off it already dude. Not all drm is created equal. This is fine AND an upgrade over the first games God awful online component.
@tekbunny
Not to mention that Borderlands retail also had SecuROM release date control shit along with the disc check. I'd be more worried about installing that version 15 years down the line than the Steam version...
Not to mention that Borderlands retail also had SecuROM release date control shit along with the disc check. I'd be more worried about installing that version 15 years down the line than the Steam version...
Loved Borderlands even with the fucking horrific UI and FOV used for the console peasants.
Easily changed, though.
I even enjoyed it with fucking gamespy in tow but a sequel without that rubbish matchmaking client?
Beautiful. Simply beautiful, can't wait.
Easily changed, though.
I even enjoyed it with fucking gamespy in tow but a sequel without that rubbish matchmaking client?
Beautiful. Simply beautiful, can't wait.
@pedrovay2003 So having the game pressed to a disc with copy-protection that can only be played in a console isn't DRM?
I wonder how much of this was actually about Steam functionality and how much of it had to do with the fact that Gamespy let people go online with pirated copies.
I love Steam but they should drop the pretense. This is a DRM issue and that is fine.
I love Steam but they should drop the pretense. This is a DRM issue and that is fine.
The original Borderlands became a joke with all the duped weapon hacks, Craw solo exploits, and and Armory runs.
My story:
I bought the retail DVD of Borderlands 1. Later, the expansions came out, but I could not buy them online due to a lack of having no credit cards. Later still after I acquired a credit card I could buy the Steam super edition for less than the cost of 1 of the retail copies of the expansions. I did so and gave my brother the original DVD, and we played online with two legitimate copies.
Had the original retail copy used Steamworks, could this happen again? It's doubtful.
I bought the retail DVD of Borderlands 1. Later, the expansions came out, but I could not buy them online due to a lack of having no credit cards. Later still after I acquired a credit card I could buy the Steam super edition for less than the cost of 1 of the retail copies of the expansions. I did so and gave my brother the original DVD, and we played online with two legitimate copies.
Had the original retail copy used Steamworks, could this happen again? It's doubtful.
@Karavision
lolwut. people mainly played pirated copies with hamachi and like LAN-emulations. this can be done with an illegal copy of a steam game as well.
What this means is, that there won't be any additional drm and services this time. original borderlands on steam still use cd serials for DLC activation (securom) and still require gamespy.
@glutto
you bought two copies of the game. can this happen on Steam? sure. you buy two copies this time too. on for yourself, one as a gift
lolwut. people mainly played pirated copies with hamachi and like LAN-emulations. this can be done with an illegal copy of a steam game as well.
What this means is, that there won't be any additional drm and services this time. original borderlands on steam still use cd serials for DLC activation (securom) and still require gamespy.
@glutto
you bought two copies of the game. can this happen on Steam? sure. you buy two copies this time too. on for yourself, one as a gift
@Klarden hamachi with only people who pirated the game is a lot less convenient than full multiplayer with everyone who bought the game which was the case on the original borderlands.
It using steamwork is kind of obvious with the steamwork patch the first one got.
It using steamwork is kind of obvious with the steamwork patch the first one got.
Why would anyone use hamachi? The whole problem with Borderlands was that anybody with a decent crack could play on the official Gamespy servers. I did myself for a week before I could afford the game just so I wouldn't fall behind my friends.
*hoping the PS3 version has Steam integration as well*
Seems like a feature everyone welcomed with Portal 2 and then it never happened again. I realize it was a Valve game and all, but I GUARANTEE you will sell a few extra copies of B2 if you put it in there since I will get my PC friends to buy the game and play with me on my PS3.
Seems like a feature everyone welcomed with Portal 2 and then it never happened again. I realize it was a Valve game and all, but I GUARANTEE you will sell a few extra copies of B2 if you put it in there since I will get my PC friends to buy the game and play with me on my PS3.
This is great
To ny best friend and I the cloud save was the most useful feature in Borderlands when Gearbox added it.
When we were playing Borderlands, He had to travel to the other extreme of the country 'cause he joined to the Marines. There, he had to play on some kind of cousin notebook, and gearbox just added the cloud save before he went there, so we can resume our gameplay from the last time, and the same when he came back. It's not like respalding the savegame in the mail or a pendrive would be difficult, but, it's something less to do
To ny best friend and I the cloud save was the most useful feature in Borderlands when Gearbox added it.
When we were playing Borderlands, He had to travel to the other extreme of the country 'cause he joined to the Marines. There, he had to play on some kind of cousin notebook, and gearbox just added the cloud save before he went there, so we can resume our gameplay from the last time, and the same when he came back. It's not like respalding the savegame in the mail or a pendrive would be difficult, but, it's something less to do
I sure wouldn't mind Borderlands 2 incorporating Steam support and a free PC copy on PS3. Some get Kaz Hirai, Randy Pitchford, and Gabe Newell together and make it happen!
If Borderlands 2 is as unsupported as the first one was at launch this is a wait till its cheap for me.
[sarcasm]If they were smart they would have used Origin, that'd be the best way to stop pirating. Nobody would touch it after the taint from EA. Would destroy sales but hey who cares, the pirates wouldn't get it either which is a victory for nobody. Gearbox missed out an opportunity to show those nasty pirates who's boss.[/sarcasm]
Hopefully they'll actually use the information from that one client update to make Borderlands 2's co-op better.
I see that both DtN and hpv already brought the issue forward and I third the motion!! Git'er done!!
Maybe there was a hack that let you change the FOV properly eventually for the original, but I stopped caring before it was made. If it's not here out of the box, I don't even begin to care.
Excellent, I was really hoping for this! Might actually get to play it online more, I hated Gamespy.
I'm pissed that they aren't keeping split-screen in the PC version, though. But if it's like Borderlands 1, I can just run 2-4 copies on the same PC I guess lol
I'm pissed that they aren't keeping split-screen in the PC version, though. But if it's like Borderlands 1, I can just run 2-4 copies on the same PC I guess lol
"Steam Achievements, downloadable content, auto-updating, multiplayer matchmaking, and Steam Cloud support."
Uh... all that shit is in every Steamworks game, lol. Some great new features there Gearbox.
Uh... all that shit is in every Steamworks game, lol. Some great new features there Gearbox.
@tekbunny and Foggle
I never once had a single problem playing the retail version of the first Borderlands online. I played through the entire game more than once without so much as a hiccup the entire time.
As for the release date check, there's a program that was released by Gearbox that creates an offline file that you just feed right back into the same program. It does an offline release date check, without ever needing to have been online in the first place. Besides, when any PC game does a release date check, it modifies the main .exe, so if you copy that file after doing the check even once, the release date check is gone forever.
Oh, wait, I'm sorry. You're under the wrong impression that the retail version of the first game had any problems. My mistake.
I never once had a single problem playing the retail version of the first Borderlands online. I played through the entire game more than once without so much as a hiccup the entire time.
As for the release date check, there's a program that was released by Gearbox that creates an offline file that you just feed right back into the same program. It does an offline release date check, without ever needing to have been online in the first place. Besides, when any PC game does a release date check, it modifies the main .exe, so if you copy that file after doing the check even once, the release date check is gone forever.
Oh, wait, I'm sorry. You're under the wrong impression that the retail version of the first game had any problems. My mistake.
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