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Having not played the first game, I don't understand this at all. All I know is that Borderlands 2 is Anthony Burch: The Game, so that's why I want it.
Here we go again.
ATTENTION EVERYONE: You can no longer have fun playing video games. Take this large purple dildo and stick it up your ass and be uptight about everything that happens.
It may be stereotypical, but stereotypes have their basis in reality sometimes. Every girl I've ever known has sucked ass at video games if its name wasn't Animal Crossing or Pac-Man. Deal with it, pussies.
ATTENTION EVERYONE: You can no longer have fun playing video games. Take this large purple dildo and stick it up your ass and be uptight about everything that happens.
It may be stereotypical, but stereotypes have their basis in reality sometimes. Every girl I've ever known has sucked ass at video games if its name wasn't Animal Crossing or Pac-Man. Deal with it, pussies.
Pen coin. You have some time to go out, buy/ stay inside/download Borderlands. If you have any interest in it, go play the first. It's fantastic.
I think this perk tree is hilarious and I am totally for calling it that skill tree as it is. Yes there are a few gal gamers out there who will be playing B2, but I think there will be far more guys out there who want their significant other who isn't a huge gamer to join them, like myself.
I think this perk tree is hilarious and I am totally for calling it that skill tree as it is. Yes there are a few gal gamers out there who will be playing B2, but I think there will be far more guys out there who want their significant other who isn't a huge gamer to join them, like myself.
A bunch of non-girlfriend-havers getting upset at successful people talking about their girlfriends. GAMING!
If you read the actual article you will see that it was known as the girlfriend tree while the were designing the tree and I wouldn't be surprised to discover that the designer who thought of it came up with the idea while playing a game with his girlfriend that she wasn't very good at.
It raises an eyebrow, but I’m not sure it’s worth having a big controversy over. Frankly I’m more annoyed about them pussying out and reversing Axton’s bisexuality because they were afraid of potential backlash, then again if people are going to freak out about this I can’t blame them for trying to avoid it altogether.
Still not totally cool with what he said, but I feel like both the gaming community and Gearbox really need to pick their battles.
Still not totally cool with what he said, but I feel like both the gaming community and Gearbox really need to pick their battles.
The media is NOT the internet. If you give an interview you should probably give enough thought before hand to come up with a term that doesn't insult half of the human race.
Here we go again... the internet getting pissed off because other interneters have an opinion.
STFUAJPG
Here we go again... the internet getting pissed off because other interneters have an opinion.
STFUAJPG
Someone makes some personal quip that's being over sensationalized to a high degree, and there's Destructoid just pushing that over sensationalism along.
Another pretty typical day around here.
Another pretty typical day around here.
I find this a bit funny coming from Jim Sterling considering the content of his reviews and videos(which btw I find them to be very funny!). Come on, it's a silly joke. People need to lighten up and not be ready to explode all the time. Screw political correctness, it's not funny.
Another day, another "oh so progressive and PC" article by fat man Sterling.
You're a shitstain on this site- can't you just stay in the Escapist or something? Or are you too obese to contain yourself in one site?
You're a shitstain on this site- can't you just stay in the Escapist or something? Or are you too obese to contain yourself in one site?
@chopper
yeah, but when you're mind is warped and so politically correct, it always reacts in a predictable pattern, this information you've shared doesn't compute. Anything that can be perceived as sexist, racist, and all the other "isms" out there need to be pointed out so everyone that points the finger can feel great about themselves and how "progressive" they are in their views, even though they've never actually investigated these issues with their own brain, but instead just parrot what they've heard by the APPROVED sources they align and identify themselves with...
it's really simple...if you identify yourself Right or Left, and you actually believe there is a difference politically, you are a complete brain dead drone and you need to examine your life and figure a way out of this mental prison. All of these issues tend to trap the Left leaning brain, so they can look down on everyone else. People that identify with the Right like to act like they are better than the people that think this stuff matters as well.
The only way to be honest is to stay in the middle and realize both sides have their points, but that they are BOTH limited in scope and understanding and all forms of extremism, no matter how much of a DO GOODER you are, is dangerous in the end.
in fact, DO GOODERS are the most dangerous of all. People that jump on bandwagons are the most psychotically misdirected and ignorant of all....and anyone that jumps on this bandwagon of constantly attacking people for their perceived "sexism" are nothing but hypocritical parrots that prove that they never use critical thinking in their lives.
yeah, but when you're mind is warped and so politically correct, it always reacts in a predictable pattern, this information you've shared doesn't compute. Anything that can be perceived as sexist, racist, and all the other "isms" out there need to be pointed out so everyone that points the finger can feel great about themselves and how "progressive" they are in their views, even though they've never actually investigated these issues with their own brain, but instead just parrot what they've heard by the APPROVED sources they align and identify themselves with...
it's really simple...if you identify yourself Right or Left, and you actually believe there is a difference politically, you are a complete brain dead drone and you need to examine your life and figure a way out of this mental prison. All of these issues tend to trap the Left leaning brain, so they can look down on everyone else. People that identify with the Right like to act like they are better than the people that think this stuff matters as well.
The only way to be honest is to stay in the middle and realize both sides have their points, but that they are BOTH limited in scope and understanding and all forms of extremism, no matter how much of a DO GOODER you are, is dangerous in the end.
in fact, DO GOODERS are the most dangerous of all. People that jump on bandwagons are the most psychotically misdirected and ignorant of all....and anyone that jumps on this bandwagon of constantly attacking people for their perceived "sexism" are nothing but hypocritical parrots that prove that they never use critical thinking in their lives.
My grandfather was a part of a band of gypsy hunters. Back when most civilized European countries had reward systems in place for gypsy scalps, it could be a very lucrative venture. Oh, the stories he would tell about massacring caravans of unsuspecting gypsies. I miss granddad.
It's like getting pissed off by the most insignificant stuff possible is a new and very successful kind of trolling.
My ex loved playing games with me despite the fact that she had little experience with them before me and wasn't that great. The more stuff like this in co-op games the better.
If "people" (I refuse to believe any sizable number of folks are upset about this) can't find anything more genuinely offensive than this to be offended by, then whatever society they live in is a near fuggin-utopia.
My ex loved playing games with me despite the fact that she had little experience with them before me and wasn't that great. The more stuff like this in co-op games the better.
If "people" (I refuse to believe any sizable number of folks are upset about this) can't find anything more genuinely offensive than this to be offended by, then whatever society they live in is a near fuggin-utopia.
Dudes from around the world scream in unison: "IT'S JUST A JOKE."
And the joke was bad. Stop being so defensive over it.
And the joke was bad. Stop being so defensive over it.
I'm not too overly angry over all this since the guy clearly wasn't being malicious with his comments, to me he just didn't realize what he was saying was dumb and patronizing to a large number of people, so I hope he doesn't get flamed or whatever too much over this, much better to help educate over blind fierce rage.
I have a girlfriend, and she's is a woman. And she also loves borderlands, I'll link her this article so she can be mad at the internet.
Video games are fucking stupid. I don't give two shits what developers jokingly say internally while developing their game. And neither should any of you. Is what he said dumb? Sure. But people need to have thicker skin and stop creating controversies every week. Video games are supposed to be fun, not an endless he-said-she-said pseudo-intellectual shitfest.
Maybe now I can convince my girlfriend who's not very into games to play with me.
That'll be two different girlfriends that Borderlands converts into gamers for me if I succeed.
Looks to me it's working as intended. Anyone who's ACTUALLY butthurt over this needs to get get a girlfriend for themselves so they can stop being a green eyed monster.
That'll be two different girlfriends that Borderlands converts into gamers for me if I succeed.
Looks to me it's working as intended. Anyone who's ACTUALLY butthurt over this needs to get get a girlfriend for themselves so they can stop being a green eyed monster.
@Jim - Didn't someone at Gearbox refuse to do interviews with you after the feminist thing from last year?
I sure hope the same guy comes out and publicly calls this PR dude a cunt. Just so as not to be hypocritical, mind.
I sure hope the same guy comes out and publicly calls this PR dude a cunt. Just so as not to be hypocritical, mind.
Sorry Jim, usually I think you're on point with this sorta stuff, but this time even I think you (and whoever it is that started the controversy) are grasping at straws here.
I tweeted him thanking him cause I DO have a girlfriend and she freely admits at sucking at games. No shame in that. Thanks Randy!!
For non-readers out there, the skill tree isn't not actually called "Girlfriend". It's called Best Friends Forever.
Then again, if you're the type who only reads titles you probably won't be reading this. Oh well.
Then again, if you're the type who only reads titles you probably won't be reading this. Oh well.
This is all tediously familiar. A developer says something silly, the internet identifies an opportunity to knock things over and make a big silly fuss, does so, etc etc.
Why do we do this to ourselves?
Why do we do this to ourselves?
I look forward to the day when the gaming industry doesn't fall back on the tired cliche of women not being able to play video games. Sorry if I don't find that very funny. Not rage-inducing, just not funny.
As if your average female gives a flying fuck if anyone thinks they suck at video games. Considering how negative the perception of games are in the media these days, i'm sure they'll take it as something to be proud about.
Oh wait, i forgot...this generation actually believes there is no difference between men and women. We're led to believe that we have all the same attributes, except that women are superior and men are just dumb apes that are useless without a woman to lead the way....at least that is what is portrayed in every commercial and sitcom out there.
Yet, you don't hear anyone saying anything about this. And if you do, you're just laughed at. Double standards and hypocrisy is a FUN GAME!!!!
C'mon Dtoid....wheres the equality? Hmmm? Oh yeah, Do Gooders aren't concerned with reality, they just want to FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES.
Oh wait, i forgot...this generation actually believes there is no difference between men and women. We're led to believe that we have all the same attributes, except that women are superior and men are just dumb apes that are useless without a woman to lead the way....at least that is what is portrayed in every commercial and sitcom out there.
Yet, you don't hear anyone saying anything about this. And if you do, you're just laughed at. Double standards and hypocrisy is a FUN GAME!!!!
C'mon Dtoid....wheres the equality? Hmmm? Oh yeah, Do Gooders aren't concerned with reality, they just want to FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES.
Also, I understand that this was a shitty joke, but why are people really saying that this isn't a misogynist joke. You can argue whether it should be taken seriously or not, but I don't see any argument for it not being misogynist to reinforce the stereotype that women don't play games/ don't play games well.
And people using the argument that those who call out examples of misogyny are actually worse than misogynists (or people who defend misogyny as "not a big deal", heeey) really surprise me every time they recycle this position. I've never seen people "overreacting" to an issue of inequality that somehow weaken it in any meaningful way, other than those who dismiss every accusation of misogyny regardless of its merit, pretending that they care more about the issues than those who recognize the trends and the context therein.
Again, the comment is lame but not that bothersome given that it's just one man's opinions. The funny/sad part is how immediately the progressive gaming community swoops in to tell women they should never say anything is misogynistic.
And people using the argument that those who call out examples of misogyny are actually worse than misogynists (or people who defend misogyny as "not a big deal", heeey) really surprise me every time they recycle this position. I've never seen people "overreacting" to an issue of inequality that somehow weaken it in any meaningful way, other than those who dismiss every accusation of misogyny regardless of its merit, pretending that they care more about the issues than those who recognize the trends and the context therein.
Again, the comment is lame but not that bothersome given that it's just one man's opinions. The funny/sad part is how immediately the progressive gaming community swoops in to tell women they should never say anything is misogynistic.
My Wife isn't going to want to play this with me. She prefers Stacking. But I do have a 10 year old daughter who loves to walk around with me trying to pet the skags while I'm up to my armpits in bandits. Weirdly enough, B1 is her favorite game. (She missed most of the cruder jokes.)
So, as a dad and a gamer who already has B2 on pre-order, this may be the best news about the game I've heard. I think this is flat out awesome. Finally a developer realizes that many times in co-op you're escorting a less skilled player.
And they called it the "girlfriend" tree... For someone's girlfriend... Not the "Chicks suck, can't go solo" skill tree, or anything else. What if there's a gamer lesbian who wants to co-op with her non-gaming girlfriend? Is it still sexist?
So, as a dad and a gamer who already has B2 on pre-order, this may be the best news about the game I've heard. I think this is flat out awesome. Finally a developer realizes that many times in co-op you're escorting a less skilled player.
And they called it the "girlfriend" tree... For someone's girlfriend... Not the "Chicks suck, can't go solo" skill tree, or anything else. What if there's a gamer lesbian who wants to co-op with her non-gaming girlfriend? Is it still sexist?
Well, I'll say this, I raised an eyebrow at that title. I'm not really outraged or anything, but yeah, that's a bit insulting. I think I get where they are coming from, though. Not a poke at female gamers but rather was supposed to be a cutesy term for the dude who wants his girlfriend to play a game she sucks at. Their PR people should have known better than to allow that term to be used publicly, though.
@company
We didn't have to make any arguments for why it's not misogynistic. The argument is already right up there in the article. It's a personal anecdote. Re-read the quote. You'll note he didn't say your girlfriend sucks at games. He said he decided, for lack of a better term, to call it the girlfriend skill tree. Someone who's not looking to pick a fight might rightly conclude that he refers to it thusly because HIS girlfriend sucks at video games. Pitchford confirms this.
Besides, as a denizen of the internet it's not my job to defend things. It's my job to ridicule people. That's how it works.
Hi btw tuoman. Hope you're having a great day so far.
We didn't have to make any arguments for why it's not misogynistic. The argument is already right up there in the article. It's a personal anecdote. Re-read the quote. You'll note he didn't say your girlfriend sucks at games. He said he decided, for lack of a better term, to call it the girlfriend skill tree. Someone who's not looking to pick a fight might rightly conclude that he refers to it thusly because HIS girlfriend sucks at video games. Pitchford confirms this.
Besides, as a denizen of the internet it's not my job to defend things. It's my job to ridicule people. That's how it works.
Hi btw tuoman. Hope you're having a great day so far.
My initial thought when I read this was that there should be a literal "Girlfriend" Skill Tree that powers up a badass AI assistant that does the majority of the hard stuff for you. So, a competent female gunner that's basically an Easy Mode for more casual types.
Imagine my disappointment.
Imagine my disappointment.
I'm with you on most shit Jimmy but this one just has an air of reaching too hard. 99% of women don't even know this happened, and of those that do only an extremist would make a big deal of this, let alone post an article.
I swear sometimes i think gamers are the dumbest motherfuckers in the damn world. Bad joke is bad. Move on. Im sure there are more interesting things worth getting angry over going on in the gaming world. This just isnt worth the effort people are putting forth. "Dev makes joke about most girlfriends being bad at videogames?! OMG get pisssssssed!" Fucking morons.
Jim, i am disappointed with this bro. This is absolutely fucking retarded.
Jim, i am disappointed with this bro. This is absolutely fucking retarded.
I remember people calling playing the shine sprite in Mario Galaxy 2 girl friend mode. I don't remember mumbles of controversy then. Was there a large entrance of thin skinned people onto the Internet since then?
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