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I love how he's trying to act like the innocent bystander in all of this. Next he'll probably say, "Oh well I was in the other room when the board decided to sue Double Fine. Wasn't me! But oh yeah, Tim Schafer sux LOL!"
Honestly, Shafer was pretty immature with his earlier comments, especially as someone who missed milestones and overspent (plus I agree with Kotick *gasp!* that Brutal Legend just wasn't very good). Shafer dug his own grave.
That said, Kotick was a dick to try and block the game from getting published elsewhere after Activision canned it, so I guess it's double fail in this case.
That said, Kotick was a dick to try and block the game from getting published elsewhere after Activision canned it, so I guess it's double fail in this case.
So if the game was late, cost too much, and wasn't very good, why did they fight so much to keep EA from releasing it?
PS
I liked the game.
PS
I liked the game.
Art vs Business
FIGHT!
Seriously though, Schaffer would have more of a leg to stand on if Brutal legend wasn't shit.
FIGHT!
Seriously though, Schaffer would have more of a leg to stand on if Brutal legend wasn't shit.
Brutal Legend - one of the worst ever culprits of a game misleading consumers through advertising.
Up there with that Halo Wars - every kid thought it was a first person shooter until they got it home.
Up there with that Halo Wars - every kid thought it was a first person shooter until they got it home.
@ DtoidBadMrK: He fought to keep it from getting released because it was getting a lot of positive press and he was afraid he'd look like a fool for not releasing it.
Obviously he didn't end up looking like a fool, just a jerk.
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I fucking hated that game.
Obviously he didn't end up looking like a fool, just a jerk.
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I fucking hated that game.
@Free touch
pretty much yes
@Everyone who's agreeing with Bobby
why are you guys sell your soul to the devil
Brutal Legend wasn't the best game but it was still a good one
pretty much yes
@Everyone who's agreeing with Bobby
why are you guys sell your soul to the devil
Brutal Legend wasn't the best game but it was still a good one
I hate to do it, but I'm gonna have to side with Kotick on this one. Everything he said about Brutal Legend is true, right?
Hes not an asshole if its true, Brutal legend was awful, terrible game. Maybe Schafer needs to get his head out of his ass and stay on schedule and make good games like Psychonauts again, and never ever ever ever get jack black on hus game again.
"And do you know what? That seemed like a sensible thing to do. And it turns out, he was late, he missed every milestone, the game was not a particularly good game ..."
So Schafer was late? This comment is what, like 6 months late?
Guess he was too busy snorting his chopped up $100 bills and killing innovation to realize he's been insulted.
So Schafer was late? This comment is what, like 6 months late?
Guess he was too busy snorting his chopped up $100 bills and killing innovation to realize he's been insulted.
He's just telling it like it is. Brutal Legend sucked. I like Tim Schafer, but that was just a bad game, and Kotick is just defending himself. I'm not sure why it's okay to call him a prick, but it's not okay for him for him to defend himself.
I'm gonna have to agree with Ko-dick on this one. Although I did like Brutal Legend, Kotick is right. Going over-budget and missing milestones is not a good way to run a business. It's the good ol' Art vs. Business battle.
Nothing kotick said had anything to do with the legal issues. activision tried to block the game. Doesn't matter if it wasn't good or if it was late. why activision cancelled it is irrelevant
I love Schafer and am under the impression (fair or not) that Kottick is a douchebag, but seems like a reasonable call that they made. I got a copy of Br[insert letter u with umlaut here]tal Legend sitting on my shelf with about two hours of playtime invested into it, which is just about how long it took me to realize I don't like Jack Black enough to suffer through an RTS of any variety.
Well, I for one have always thought that Tim Schafer's games are not very good and that he was an unprofessional moron for speaking on Kotick and starting drama.
I also think people who "hate" Kotick are immature punk ass little kids who don't know jack shit about responsibility and business.
So, this entire article is a big win. When you kids stop hating and grow up a little you'll see where I'm coming from.
I also think people who "hate" Kotick are immature punk ass little kids who don't know jack shit about responsibility and business.
So, this entire article is a big win. When you kids stop hating and grow up a little you'll see where I'm coming from.
So to prove he's not a prick, Mr. Kotick kicks a guy when he's down? Ignoring how right he may be (and to be fair, he was right), this doesn't scream class. Actually, this kind of screams "prick."
What's funny is that anybody commenting here was an executive at Activision you'd probably be best friends with the guy. Sure, he's probably an arrogant jerk sometimes, but then again nice guys finish last.
And he definitely isn't finishing last. For now, at least.
And he definitely isn't finishing last. For now, at least.
"He's late, he's missed every milestone... he's responsible for several of the greatest games every created, and the success of this industry is likely owed to innovators like him. But fuck that. I am Captain Asshole of Douchebag Island. Brahhhgh money money money!" -Kotick
I'd like to point out that this is just Kotick proving Shafer right, here. And all Shafer said on the matter was that Kotick acted like a prick when Doublefine took Brutal Legend elsewhere... Which, let's face it, he did. He also said that Kotick isn't exactly good for the industry, which is a more than fair point.
Of course, Kotick is going on about professionalism while going back at Shafer two months after the fact.
And hell, let's face it... Artists are not businessmen. Shock and Awe, when Shafer got handed the keys he did go a little bit overboard and spent a little longer on the game than he needed to and spent a little more money than he should have. Fair statement? Yes. Unexpected? Not at all.
If Kotick was so worried about milestones and budget, he would have stipulated resource management in the contract.
Of course, Kotick is going on about professionalism while going back at Shafer two months after the fact.
And hell, let's face it... Artists are not businessmen. Shock and Awe, when Shafer got handed the keys he did go a little bit overboard and spent a little longer on the game than he needed to and spent a little more money than he should have. Fair statement? Yes. Unexpected? Not at all.
If Kotick was so worried about milestones and budget, he would have stipulated resource management in the contract.
Somehow, I don't think that was the part that made him a prick. I imagine it was more the, "Oh, now that someone else has given you a chance even though you're fuck ups, we don't want to let you release the game because were petulant children!" part.
@Clance; That's more to do with going HURR DURR HAYLOH than anything else. I don't think many people have ever been under the impression it's anything other than a strategy game.
This is really just Kotick playing the "I'm innocent" card. Maybe he is in this case, maybe he isn't. And even if he is? Doesn't stop him being a prick.
This is really just Kotick playing the "I'm innocent" card. Maybe he is in this case, maybe he isn't. And even if he is? Doesn't stop him being a prick.
Just thought I'd point out: Kotick is NOT defending himself, he's attacking Schafer. It's called an ad hominen fallacy. Kotick made no effort to refute claims that he doesn't like games or doesn't care about building anything meaningful in general. I agree with Schafer: he's bad for the industry.
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