ew Dead Space.

Saints Row II has been done before. It's called Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. Also, This Is Vegas? Really? I mean Grand Theft Auto IV isn't the greatest game, but saying This Is Vegas will top it is kind of a stretch.

DEAD SPACE! I wonder how similar it will be to System Shock 2.

I just want a GTA style game where you can time travel. Preferably in a Delorian. I just do. Badly.

GTA had its fun with cheap thrills > grew up and gave us a more mature experience, which may say more about the kind of person that was able to appreciate the game.

Or.....

Fark it i dont actually care what other people think about any certain game as each experience is subjective.(sighs to self)

@ Covah

That really is over-simplifying the game. You can say that about anything. Oh, CoD4? It really is moving from one point of the map while shooting guys in the face. Final Fantasy? It's just running through an area fighting monsters until you level high enough to get to the end. Fighting games? You're just fighting one guy after another.

See? It's easy to be negative about a game when you strip it down to it's basic gameplay.

And yes. GTA is about chasing a car from point A to point B. That's what it's always been. That's GTA.

The "This is Vegas" main character looks just like Nick Chester. 11/10 Game of the Year CONFIRMED!

LOL..................NO

I would fling a lot of constructed arguments why you're completely wrong about Saints Row 'taking out' GTA4, but
this

'Grand Theft Auto IV took a step back for the GTA franchise and Saints Row has stepped up to bat. Tomorrow, everyone will take notice to the new reign of the open world, hoodlum gang genre: Saints Row. '


Proves without a doubt you have no idea what you are talking about, GTA is awesome, it's 'grown up',now, no longer just a murder simulator, simple as.

Oh and TOO MUCH COFFEE MAN, is right.

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If this gets decent PC reviews, then I'll buy it this week. I'm just worried it might be a shitty port.

@skribble

Skate was like MONDOOSH OWNAGe over any tony hawk game ever. IF you are saying that Saints Row 2 (when its not evne out yet) has NO POSSIBLE CHANCE of doing that to the GTA franchise, you're an idiot.

Saints Row 2 could be the start of a new leader in the sandbox genre. And yes, one hugely successful title will make another company worry. You are dumb. Good day.

K let's get academic.

Of course it's all opinion. Heck, even the value of stocks are just the opinions of the investors. But yes, Skate was "mondoosh ownage" over Tony Hawk because 1) critics reviewed the game very high - much higher than Tony Hawk games and 2) it offered a new experience to the genre.

Will SR2 offer a new experience? No. Will it be a lot more fun? As a veteran of the GTA series, yes. I think so. GTA IV did, in fact, take a step back in the GTA franchise because it weighed too much on the realism of the game and it lacked the in depth customization players came to love in GTA San Andreas (a feature that Saints Row 2 maintains).

And, just like Skate offers a completely different experience than Tony Hawk (while still being a skating game), Skate has been proclaimed by critics and players to be superior to Tony Hawk because of this. Loosely related, those scores will have an influence into what people purchase, in turn hurting (or in Skate's case, helping) sales of the game.

If Saints Row 2 ends up, as I predict, to be what GTA IV should have been, then that will turn heads of critics and consumers to look at the developer of SR2 and Rockstar and that will weigh heavily in the anticipation of the future releases of both franchises, so yes, a very successful SR2 will make Rockstar Games tense as they will have to come up with a game that competes with what players loved about SR2.

SR2 encompasses more fun and hilarity and customization than GTA IV and this is why I think it will be more widely liked. People loved the airplanes, the helicopters, the car and character customization of GTA San Andreas and GTA IV tossed that out the window. Instead, GTA IV was a (in the beginning) an engrossing experience - the storyline in the opening of the game was gripping and the game looked great, but the gameplay was lacking. The missions became repetitive, having to hang out with your in game friends became a chore, and the fun trickled quickly. Saints Row is a bit more whacky and off the wall, sure, but it has activities and such that are fun to participate in. I'd rather do mayhem activities to boost my respect than to go bowling or a strip club with my horny cousin.

I'm not deciding GTA IV is in trouble. I'm saying from the looks of it, SR2 will be what GTA IV should have been and will knock GTA off its pedestal because, as I said previously, GTA IV dropped some of the more fun elements of the series to make it more grim and movie like.

Games do come out of left field and demolish the competition and this is a manifestation of my prediction of that outcome.

Point is, GTA IV left out some features that were popular in the previous iterations and SR/SR2 has maintained those features. That, my friend, is a fact.

And I do hope you respond.