This is from my
main blog.
I decided to take a break from PixelJunk Eden to watch Spider-Man 3 again.
What the
hell was I thinking?
Let's rewind back to May 4, 2007, the day a piece of me died.
Spider-Man was awesome. Spider-Man 2 was awesome. The trailers for Spider-Man 3 have been
badass, and now I'm sitting in the theater at the premiere with a row of my friends. I'm fucking giddy. This must be what heaven feels like.
Then the movie started.
One hundred and thirty-nine excruciating minutes later and the credits began to roll, but no one stood up to leave. The whole theater just sat there in complete silence. No one looked anyone else in the eyes, and it was painfully obvious why: they had just been sodomized.
Eventually I stood up and did the only thing I could do. I took my friend's straw, stabbed my eyes out, and then jammed it into my throat to end my misery.
If only.
No, finally a guy near the front stood up and said "Spider-Man 3 is the worst movie in the history of movies," and walked out. Everyone else began to follow him, but I just sat there wondering,
what the hell happened? They must have known how bad that was when they were filming it. Obviously there is no god.
Fast forward to ten minutes ago. A friend left his copy of Spider-Man 3 here and I thought I'd give it another shot, that maybe I'd just had unrealistic expectations before and enough time had passed. How wrong I was.
Let's do a quick countdown of the three worst things about Spider-Man 3:
3. Topher Grace
I like Topher Grace. I do. He was funny on
That 70s Show and he was even pretty good in that one movie with Dennis Quaid. But Topher Grace had no business playing Venom. He's super skinny and he's not scary at all.
Before the Venom transformation, he was decent when contrasted with Tobey Maguire's embarrassing performance, but once he donned the black, it was a train wreck. He tried to make the role funny with clever quips and corny jokes like holding up Mary Jane and saying "my spidey sense is tingling... if you know what I mean."
What an awful casting job.
2. Worst Ending Ever
At the end of the movie, Venom dies in a cheesy explosion, Harry dies from being exposed to too many cliches, and Spider-Man and Sandman have a heart to heart about how much their lives suck until they both start crying, Spider-Man forgives him, and Sandman literally just flies away into the sunrise.
What?
So Sandman is still an escaped convict wanted for murdering Peter Parker's uncle, robbing a bank and a security van, causing millions of dollars in property damage,
at the very least endangering the lives of countless citizens if not killing many, and attempting to kill Spider-Man, but that's all okay because his daughter is dying? Bullshit.
Bullshit.
This is Spider-Man, not Dr. Phil. Wipe your tears and go kick his ass.
1. Peter Parker
It was impossible to like Peter Parker in Spider-Man 3. He went from being a self-absorbed jackass to a total pussy to an insane person who, in the span of two minutes, goes from playing the piano and dancing in a jazz club to hitting women in the face, and finally back to being a pussy.
In Spider-Man 2, you could sympathize with the guy. His girl is engaged to someone else, his job sucks, he's failing his classes, his aunt finds out he was indirectly responsible for her husband's death, his best friend wants Spider-Man dead, he's losing his powers, and the city he's sacrificing it all to protect still hates him. Not to mention the dude with four mechanical arms trying to kill him.
But the reason why you cared was because he was a good, likeable person, and so you rooted for him. You wanted him to triumph. Had he been smacking Mary Jane around, dancing on tables and flipping his hair, you would've just been like, "whatever, man; he deserves it. Eff that guy." So by the end of Spider-Man 3, I wanted nothing more than Peter Parker's head on a pike.
How could I not?
What I'm trying to say with all of this is that The Dark Knight was mind-blowingly awesome. But if Christian Bale starts singing and jumping in front of American flags in Batman 3, people will die.
I'm a man of my word.
Yep. Shit movie. And?
Also, I would advise everyone to watch Daredevil again, it's actually good! I was just watching it the other night in work (yes, I am in work right now. Easiest job ever) and I was just thinking what an under-appeciated movie it was.
I support the above message.
As for the blog post, yes Spiderman Three is shit.
I have faith in Batman 3, because I believe that Christopher Nolan isn't a complete fucking idiot.
I saw this for the first time last month. My girlfriend and I had the exact same impression. Worst. Movie. Ever.
This just in, all the Spiderman movies suck. The only good one of the three is the first one and even that one isn't that good.
Like the blog. Love the way in which you tear the shit out of Spidy 3, which is deserved.
Just (NVGR) you title.
@Superhobo, he's expressing his opinion, blogs allow you to do that. He can say spidey 3 is a shit movie all day long on his blog, nothing wrong with that. I would say this is clogging the c-blogs, but it's actually nicely written.
I don't think it was the worst movie ever. The worst Spider-Man flick, sure, but far from the worst movie ever IMO.
You apparently haven't seen Elektra.
It wasn't as bad as Batman and Robin.
You obviously haven't seen From Justin to Kelly, or She Hate Me.
Batman & Robin wasn't a movie, it was a crime against God.
grats on wasting peoples time
This just in: Aborto is Correct.
Also, we already have a Burger King in our midst.
lol.
who hates spidey? you do.
God, Spider-Man 3 was an abortion of a movie, on the level of X-Men 3: The Last Stand.
Dude, this just in: Destructoid has a category when labeling blogs called "Movies."
Deal.
I'm a pretty recent member. I actually had to look up what NVGR meant when you posted that, and I've since edited the title.
And hey, Destructoid offers different categories for blogs for a reason. It's obvious that the community section is not supposed to be 100% videogame-exclusive-no-exceptions-allowed.
I dunno where you fucking live, but I wanna live there.
Everyone here were like FUCK YEAH WOO! when it was over.
In fact, more people I know liked it the BEST of the three movies.
Stupid fucking fans.
I wholeheartedly agree. Spider-Man 3 is not a good movie by any means.
Great article, funny and full of hate. Keep it up.
The movie was unintentionally hilarious. So, it is fun to watch drunk with friends. I wouldn't recommend seeing it any other way, though.
It's still much better than Ghost Rider. That movie was so bad that even relentlessly making fun of it became boring a half an hour in.
The Dark Knight is worse.
hows the pie?
Spiderman 3? It's still better than "The Life Aquatic". I don't give a damn how awesome Bill Murray is. That movie was absolute shit.
i thought spidey 3 was actually the best in the series....
I liked it. Of course, I wasn't expecting the movie to reveal the meaning of life. Just a guy in a spider suit.
Its not a good movie... but to be honest. You aren't supposed to like Peter in the third movie. He's being consumed by the symbiote. its how the story goes. Christ people, bone up on your comic mythos.
p.s. TDK is getting waaaaay more publicity than it should. Its really good, for a batman movie. The Hulk still blows it out of the water.
"but to be honest. You aren't supposed to like Peter in the third movie."
Hay guyz, House of The Dead is the best movie ever made because you are not SUPPOSED to enjoy being attacked by zombies! Have you been attacked by a zombie? It sucks! Christ people, bone up on your zombie mythos.
Turbospaz: YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO LIKE HIM IN THE MOVIE: ITS PART OF THE CHARACTER. Cleary you don't know anything about comics, so i'll tell you. The Symbiote basically fuses with the host. At that time, it was Peter. It controls his emotions, the way he thinks, and clouds his judgement. He finally realizes this, and tries to get rid of it. Being hurt, because the symbiote's "perfect host" broke his heart, he is only filled with rage and hatred, and bonds with someone who feels the same way, and then again amplifies those emotions. Its part of the story line, and has been in every version of the venom story. Peter is made to look like a jerk, to give the idiot audience the feeling of not liking the new personallity that the suit is obviously giving him.
How do you not mention Mary Jane being a major bitch through out the movie? She was so bitchy and annoying in Spider-Man 3 I just could not stand her. She was completely unlikable in the movie. Everyone was crying, Peter was dancing, Mary Jane was a bitch, and Topher Grace...well, Topher Grace is bad enough. Spider-Man 3 was god-awful, anyone who liked it were most likely the same moron who watch all of those "movie" movies.
@FREE TOUCH: Nah, I know what you're talking about, but you're supposed to still like him to an extent. You're supposed to remember that he's in there, trapped. So in the jazz club, for instance, when he's beating the shit out of people until he accidentally punches MJ, you're supposed to feel sorry for him and realize it's not his fault.
But by that time, he didn't just act aggressive. He wasn't just violent. He was ridiculous. He started off well enough by shoving Eddie into the picture and cracking the frame, but by the end of his time with the symbiote, he was just a joke, dancing and singing and strutting down the sidewalk and flipping his hair. It was silly. They should've kept him serious and made him seem scary now.
@TREVOR MCGEE: Man, there was so much I wanted to mention, but I figured that keeping it short would be best. I could go on for hours about how bad that movie was.
But you're totally right. MJ was awful in this one. She immediately starts the movie off bitchy. When she gets the bad review and Peter tries to compare to Spider-Man and she's like "this is about me!" it's just like "bitch, shut up; he's making a good comparison if you'd just shut your mouth!"
And how she totally forgave Harry at the end of the movie after he assaulted her and forced her to break Peter's heart? Ugh.
See, this is why I kept it short in the blog, ha.
@Heretic: You are talking out of your ass. You are trolling. And I will tell you why you are wrong.
WTF are you talking about. It isn't good "for a batman movie" its just a awesome movie period. I hate people who say, "Meh this was great for a comic book movie."
Um... it is good for a batman movie. Its not the best batman movie made to date. Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker is the best Batman movie ever made. Now, they did a bang-up job on Two-face, and they took The Joker to a different level, not really seen before. But he did need to laugh more. I'll be the first to admit I'm pretty much a hardcore comic fan, and I give props where it is due. I'm not saying the movie isn't good, its just that, comic wise, Hulk is the better movie.
The Hulk was shit. Edward Nortan was great but jesus christ that movie bored me so much and it honestly wasn't better than Ang Lee's version.
Please explain what part of the movie was shit? Alrite, i'll give you Liv Tyler, because she can't act for shit, but nothing else in that movie is wrong. How could you be bored of a twenty minute ending fight scene? Did you know the hulk doesn't kill? Even though he's a monster, a part of bruce is still moving inside the Hulk's mind at all time. that's how he can do those awesome leaps, and toss cars without ever killing anyone. No matter how mad The Hulk gets, he only gets stronger, not irrational. Now, The Abomination on the other hand, doesn't care, and feels his power is his to do with as he pleases. That's why he just smashes shit for the hell of it. They nail this in the movie. Everything from the final scene, to the begining where he is running from the army, fits the Hulk storyline. Its near perfect.
Batman, however, is wrong. Did you know that Batman is a detective by nature? he's a gadget man 2nd and fighter 3rd. That doesn't show in this movie. They would rather him be shown, in clear light, taking on 8 people, and no one can shoot him. And the whole "I need a new suit because a dog attacked me" was the weakest reason to redo the batsuit ever. His voice is "unique" at best. He definitly played it over the top for this one, as he did a better job of it in the first movie. Bruce Wayne is also a Playboy, but a mild mannered one at that. He does both jobs. He puts on his costume of Bruce Wayne during the day, and does a good job of it, and at night, he takes off the mask and becomes batman. Sounds wierd doesn't it? Yeah, but when Batman and/or bruce think to themselves, they don't kill themselves Bruce.
The Dark Knight was a deep movie that actually had an impact on me and that's more than I can say for ANY American movie I've watched in the last 10 years.
I'm glad it did. Movies should do that. Now while everyone is figuring out who the next bat villian will be, Marvel is hard at work at laying the groundwork for an entire universe of movies, interweaving little bits and pieces of the marvel mythos in all the new movies. Captain America's shield in the Ironman Movie, Mentions of Cap America in the hulk, Nick Fury being in both movies, and othe subtle hints, which, when finally pieced together, and going to knit the greatest Superhero movie ever, The Avengers.
But anyway, once again, Batman was good, for a Batman movie, but other movies have done it better. Batman Begins is better than TDK. But its still in the top 3. Sorry.
@FREE TOUCH: And also, I didn't like him BEFORE he got the symbiote. He was self-absorbed and a dick. Explain that.
I'm not defending the movie, I though it sucked. I was just explaining why Petey acted that way in the jazz Club.
i didnt hate it I just thought it was funny
what's with all the Spider-Man 3 haters? i'm sick of Spidey 3 haters. yes, it's not as good as the previous 2, but there's no way it's worse than X-Men 3, Elektra, Ghost Rider, etc etc. and yes, the worst comic book movie of all time - nay, the worst movie EVER - is Batman and Robin.
Spider-Man 3 suffered from trying to pack too much in to one movie. it's basically 2 movies in 1. they tried to pack so much in because no one knew what was coming with Spidey 4 (will the cast be back? the director?) and so they wanted to fit as much in as they could in this one.
if you want to hate something Spidey 3, hate the fucking game for god's sake. that thing was ABYSMAL.
Spider-Man 3 suffered from trying to pack too much in to one movie. it's basically 2 movies in 1. they tried to pack so much in because no one knew what was coming with Spidey 4 (will the cast be back? the director?) and so they wanted to fit as much in as they could in this one.
a.k.a. - The X-men 3 Syndrome.
I've never seen Batman & Robin start to finish, but worse than Spider-Man 3? We'll see about that.
I may have a follow-up to this blog pretty soon if B&R turns out to be as awful as people say. I just remember coming in at the very end when they're all running at the camera and I just started laughing.
@kawitchate
O man Ghost Rider!! Usually I can find something redeemable in comic movies (Batman & Robin is at least so bad it's good) but Ghost Rider is just one giant shit pile with no redeeming factors
YAH FUCK U HAMZA! I still owe u a beer cuz this made more money opening weekend than Pirates 3. how could america let this happen?!?!
I'm sorry man, it is AT LEAST as bad as people say. However, B&R is very easy to laugh at whereas Spidey 3 was just badly done in every way. Can't watch it start to finish.
Also, I WAY preferred the Ang Lee Hulk. Okay, it may not be "true" to the comics (but then again, there are so many different versions of the Hulk at this stage...), but it was far more entertaining. That big "fight" with the military in the college was boring as FUCK, the fight at the end was boring as FUCK and the bits where Norton is running constantly? Boring as FUCK! I'm not even saying that Lees version was that good, but at least the editing and action set pieces made it entertaining viewing.
I haven't read the rest of the comments, but Spider-Man 3 was EASILY one of the BEST movies of all time, SOLELY due to the fact that they put in the MOST UNNECESSARY 5 minute dance scene for no other reason then filler, to make Peter Parker seem all badass and such, lol.
@fronz
to be fair pirates 3 wasn't all that great either
correct. but if youre saying it was anywhere near as bad as spiderman 3....
to be fair tho, pirates 3 was still better than just about any adventure movie released in several years. ppl just like ripping on it cuz first one was so damn good.
False, that movie is Dungeons & Dragons. It used to be Ang Lee's The Hulk, but that movie ceased to exist on June 13th, 2008.
You guys are on crack, that movie fucking rocked!
I kind of liked Ghost Rider. I don't know why, I just did.
@RonB,
I could write you pages as to why I didn't like Ghost Rider. Or, more to the point, why it was the worst movie I've ever seen in a theater.