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Speak badly about Bioware? "We'll just take your games away, thx"
wasphone | 7:30 PM on 03.10.2011 16 comments




http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6459941/1#6460241

Basically, this man asked Bioware if "they sold [their] soul to the EA Devil?" and was banned. But not just from the Bioware forums, from his DLC, from his games, from his Dragon Age II: Bioware Signature Edition.

and what did Bioware have to say about this?


"Please review the EA Community Terms of Service, particularly sections #9 and #11. There are two levels of enforcement here:

1. BioWare community bans are forum-only and can be for as little as 24 hours. These bans should have no effect on your game, only your ability to use all the features of this website/community. these bans are handed out by BioWare Moderators as the result of our travels around the forum and/or issues reported by fellow community members.

2. EA Community bans come down from a different department and are the result of someone hitting the REPORT POST button. These bans can affect access to your game and/or DLC.

Because the BioWare community now operates under the same umbrella as all EA Communities, community members here have all explicitly agreed to abide by and be governed by both sets of rules. Consider it an added incentive to follow the rules you say you're going to follow.

If there are further questions or concerns, please send them to me via private message. Thank you.

End of line." - Stanely Woo

So, anyone else really love the new Bioware?



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SuperMonk4Ever's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2011 20:07
SuperMonk4Ever
Eh, as long as it doesn't effect how their games are, it doesn't matte to me. As the saying goes "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all." Seriously though, who trash talks the owners , EA, on the developers web-site and doesn't expect anything bad to happen?
Enkido's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2011 20:28
Enkido
Uh, it's a bit unfair to lay the blame for this on BioWare. Because they are published by EA, they are bound by their rules, they have no choice in the matter if they want their game published by them. These are EA's rules, not BoiWare's, and in fact the BioWare bans are not even the ones affecting the game.
Rhuno's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2011 20:49
Rhuno
To answer the question: yes.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2011 21:17
The Silent Protagonist
... and since Bioware knew what they were getting into by signing on with EA and participated in how this DLC is handled at EA's request they're every bit as culpable as EA is on the matter.

Since EA seems to be deleting some key posts here, its hard to get the whole picture, but I hope people have screen-capped what's there because if there really is some truth to it, it should be brought to light.
meteorscrap's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2011 21:57
meteorscrap
...And this is the risk the fucking moron took.

Sorry, but I've got an EA account which I've got linked to my PSN ID and my Xbox360 GamerTag. I've actually read the EULA and realized that yes, acting like an asshat over at the EA forums could lead to consequences as far as my gaming goes. And you know what? Just like I have the right to modify my consoles however the hell I want, if I go be an asshat on EA's forums, they have the right to deny me access to their servers. Fair is bloody well fair.

Of note is the fact the guy got banned for 72 hours. He knew he needed to connect at least once to activate his (presumably) PC copy of the game. Yet he went and asked, word for word, if they had sold their souls to the EA Devil.

It's not Bioware's fault. They answer to EA now. At that point you can lay the blame at EA's feet and take your medicine, or you can wait 72 hours. Either way, you've learned a lesson: Don't take registered accounts into official forums and act like a fucking moron.

This post could have been titled "Holy Shit! Actions have consequences!" and it would have been just as relevant.
Enkido's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2011 22:04
Enkido
@The Silent Protagonist
It is possible I'm missing something, but from what is here and on the link provided it seems to me that this is an EA thing. As for BioWare being in kahoots with EA and guilty by association, this is in regard's to what alternatives? They need a publisher and if they think that EA is the one for them when it comes to creative control, exposure, resources, payment, etc., then I find it hard to blame them for accepting something as small as this as collateral.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2011 22:56
The Silent Protagonist
If you want to play Bioware fanboy, that's one thing, but to defend this sort of action on any level is... just wow.

We're not talking about an MMORPG here - where your behavior can be disruptive to gameplay and waste the time of other players. We're talking about a statement made on a forum that resulted in denial of single-player content the user had already paid for.

Like I told Pedrovay earlier to day - EULAs only exist to cover the company's ass and prevent them from having to deal with special case on an individual basis.

This, however, is the sort of thing class-action lawsuits are made of.

For me, though, its just another reason I refuse to support EA and their developers.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2011 23:33
Xzyliac
Do I love th new Bioware? Hmm...*looks at Mass Effect 2: Collector's Edition".

Is what they did fucked up? Yeah. Is it affecting my love of their games? Nope.

He should threaten legal action though. Legal action against EA since it's under EA's thumb that that button was pushed and that rule was writ. How this is any fault of the "new Bioware" I don't know except that now their forums are under EA's rules. If that's reason to hate Bioware...that's silly. Hate EA.
Enkido's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2011 05:38
Enkido
@The Silent Protagonist
Not really a Bioware fanboy, don't own nor have I played either of the Dragon Age games, and despite ME2 recently being released for my console of choice, I have yet to buy it. I'm not defending the action, blocking a person from accessing a game they bought isn't right, but implying that it is BioWare's fault for being subject to their publishers rules doesn't ring true to me. I'm not saying their completely innocent, but they don't seem to be the root of the problem here as the above implies.
meteorscrap's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2011 07:00
meteorscrap
Two Points people are missing...

1) This was strictly an EA thing. Bioware has the ability to ban people from the forums without effecting DLC or other game-related features. Blaming Bioware for this is completely wrong. Stanley Woo all but said "Sorry guys, this is NOT us." in as unofficial a voice as he could. Even on the forums, Bioware staff have to remember that they report to EA and can lose their jobs if they agree that this is a dick move.

2) This was only a 72 hour ban, not a permanent one. It's not like this guy is never going to get to play his game. He gets to start playing it today or tomorrow, if I'm reading the timeline here right.

Either way, and I can't stress this enough, this fucking moron learned that actions have consequences.

I'm not saying that I agree with EA. Frankly, I don't. However I don't have to agree with EA to remember that free speech doesn't apply to privately owned forums (like the Bioware forums) and that acting like a dickhead can have unpleasant consequences, especially when it comes to accounts linked to GamerTags, PSN ID, or whatever.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2011 09:32
Occams electric toothbrush
Since I don't troll their forums I'm not really concerned about what happens to people who do.
Wrenchfarm's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2011 12:16
Wrenchfarm
Meh, I'm having trouble getting worked up over this. I don't like heavy handed punishments but it feels like we are not getting the whole story here. I doubt he really got banned for "just one comment", probably just one comment over the line after a series of pestering, negative, trolling posts.

I hate the typical internet style bashing this game is getting. I think DA2 is a fine game but with some real criticisms and concerns (over abundance of DLC, perhaps too much streamlining) but you can't have a real discussion about it because the knee-jerk Hatedom for the game just takes over.
MrMacphisto's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/11/2011 16:17
MrMacphisto
Stop talking shit at Dtoid, please.
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