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“PS3 Sales match 360 sales for first year” So what? The PS3 still fails.
wardrox | 1:57 PM on 11.21.2007 24 comments


Before I start: fanboys, back the fuck off. Read what I have to say, then come up with your witty, horse cock filled response. Also, the first person to accuse me of being a fanboy myself will... well ... your an idiot.


The above graph comes from VGChartz and shows the hardware sales of the big three, with their launch dates aligned. I, as well as many other people, have been watching this closely. It's very useful to see how they each stack up. The fact that the PS3 has (almost) matched the 360 for hardware sales isn't my problem here. It's when I read comments saying the two systems are on par that I get pissy.

They are not even close. The 360 has sold at least twice as many consoles. The fact the PS3 has sold as many as the 360 did a year ago is not important at this point.

It would only make them equal if the 360 had not been so successful this year. If the graph for the 360 had shown signs of slowing, that there was a chance the PS3 could catch up, then I would give it to you. If this graph carries on, there will always be more 360s out there than PS3s, it's as simple as that. This is the graph you should be looking at if you want to get anal:


This graph shows the 360 (green) has actually increased the gap between itself and the PS3 (red) over the past year.



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bloodylip's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:05
bloodylip
But there's nothing to say that the PS3 won't experience a similar surge this xmas season. Still.. it's about the games. The 360 had quite a few high-profile games come out this year, including a little-known gem called Halo 3. I don't see the PS3 matching a sales spike like that unless MGS4 and FFXIII release on the same day in the future.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:07
Knivy
You're my boy blue!
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:07
linuxguy
this blog too is made of phailure
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:09
wardrox
@linuxguy.. why? I use paragraphs, spelling(ish), correct formating on links and have embedded pictures. What more would you need?
BlackDove's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:12
BlackDove
Hmm, I don't know man.

I think it's a little early to tell. I mean, if Halo 3 is any indication, that's what makes a big difference - old franchises.

We don't really know how the PS3 will fare when its old franchises come out. So far, the fact it's been doing so good is kind of surprising, considering what a shitty game selection it has (okay, it's not even shit, it's almost non existant. I don't think it has 10 full good games).

But Halo 3 moved quite a bunch of systems, and was the last thing that was going to move the 360s off the shelf with a storm.

PS3 still has its MGS4 and FFXIII established old franchises to come out. I'd say when those are released (in the year 2952), the numbers should get kinda close. I mean, the 360 does have a full year ahead of the PS3, and the PS3 is like the fat dog in the race, the most expensive and the most undeserving console for your money, but only right now.

If the Wii's numbers are any indication (I mean look at that, a $250 price point and it already beat the 360 - and I don't think we can say it has all that many good through and through games either) then it's possible we could see a kind of a tie between the 360 or PS3.

Eventually. Like, in the distant future. I'd say you're right though, this console generation will be known for Microsoft kicking Sony's ass for six out of the seven years it'll last.
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:12
linuxguy
@wardrox:because if you mean less sales==worst machine then you're a fanboy but if by that you are just speking of numbers then my appologies
also 600 bucks
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:15
wardrox
@ linuxguy, this was talking of numbers. I am aware that the PS3 has the hardware, it just makes me angry when people say their sales are on par, when they are clearly not.
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:15
Corak
Agreed linuxguy, he came right out with his true side when he typed the title. Getting "pissy", his words, is what defines the fanboy when someone bashes or heaven forbid compares the two systems. His choice is obviously the 360, and he will get angry or "pissy" over the internet when someone doesn't agree with him. I love the word "pissy" it makes him either a puebescent girl, or a boy with gender issues.
Dr l0cke's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:18
Dr l0cke
You know what? Both systems are doing just fine
Def JM's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:22
Def JM
I would like both systems but poor. Please help.
bloodylip's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:23
bloodylip
@Def JM

I hear that giving blowjobs does wonders for your income.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:27
Bob Muir
Drox is right. Maybe if they were giving out pity prizes, they'd say "good job" for doing as well as the 360's first year. But as drox establishes, this is about current market positions, and the 360 is far ahead of the PS3 and (for now) around the amount of Wiis. This tells developers that the PS3's market share is not as big and may lead to less games (or at least exclusives) being produced for the system in comparison to the other two. This says nothing bad against the PS3 hardware itself, but says tons for a) the price, b) Sony's marketing, and c) the lack of worthwhile games. Drox is not a fanboy, quit getting your panties in a bunch everyone.
Def JM's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:29
Def JM
@bloodylip

Wierd that's the same thing my mom was saying.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:30
Snaileb
"I, as well as many other people, have been watching this closely"

A hobby for fanboys no doubt.
DizzleLeep's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:32
DizzleLeep
Stupid Fanboy shit.
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:33
VWGTI
I have a feeling that if the PS3 wasn't on par with the 360's sales after 12 months it would matter. However, the fact that the PS3 is on par means nothing? Please, man. You couldn't be more wrong in my eyes, but you are entitled to your opinion.
JJ Rage's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:54
JJ Rage
"So far, the fact it's been doing so good is kind of surprising, considering what a shitty game selection it has (okay, it's not even shit, it's almost non existant. I don't think it has 10 full good games)."


I would assume the PS3's early success is due to name recognition and the promise of games like MGS4, Killzone 2, and Final Fantasy XIII.

And at least a small part of the success of the system is blind loyalty from fanboys.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 14:57
king3vbo
Sorry, but Wardrox is right. However, I dont "hope" or "root for" PS3 failure. I hope that it does well also. I want one, I just have to save up some money first
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 15:17
ArrestedDeveloper
I'd be interested to see software sales for each console during their first year.
dgenerate's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 15:18
dgenerate
Just because someone looks at the numbers, doesn't make him a fanboy. I check the charts too. What can I say... I'm curious.

Just because we point out that the PS3 hasn't done as well as it could/should have, it doesn't mean we WANT it to fail. I own a 360, and prefer it at this point. Guess what? I also have a PS3. Uncharted is the best game I've played since Gears of War.
ZServ's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 16:40
ZServ
I'm not sold on the PS3; I want one, but I wouldnt pay 600 for it. The PSP to PS3 features definitely look interesting, but not enough for me to buy both. its not worth 850 bucks for something i wont use 24 hours every single day. I want it to fail; somewhat. I only want it to fail to bring down the price. Then I gaurantee sales would skyrocket, making developers make more good games for it.
bhive01's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 17:29
bhive01
PS3s aren't 600$. They're $400 or 499$ w/ Motorstorm.

I agree that looking at these numbers is not an automatic "Fanboy" badge. Still you have to admit that the tone of your post, Wardrox, is facetious at best. I agree that the PS3 is in a different position over the next few years. That position is behind Nintendo and MS (in that order!). What I see happening is that Sony realizes that it's in the shit hole and starts giving users what they want. Just look at the AVI container (Divx/Xvid) support that is confirmed for PS3 and is only rumored for the 360.

They've lowered the price of the dev kits. IMO, they should practically give them away. They are also rolling out better developer tools too. This can only help the situation with the games.

I have a PS3. I don't have a 360. I wish the 3rd party developers would spend a little more time to get the PS3 versions of their games to look at least like the 360 versions. It's just laziness on their part. Especially given the fact that if they did it once they would then have a team on staff that could help optimize code.

I really don't want the PS3 to fail cause I don't see myself getting a 360 at this point.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/21/2007 18:25
wardrox
Ok, I see your point about my tone, that was more aimed as a response to the people miss-reading the graph. I do admit, I love my PS2 and most defiantly don't want the PS3 to "fail" by any stretch of the word.

Sorry if I came across as a fanboy :(
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