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Nice post vonneuton, it was enlightening to hear from a person who has pirated, and yet does not have the gall to defend piracy outright.
Indeed it's like hearing someone from 'the evil side'. That happens very rarely.
IMHO, I still think it is wrong, simply because of the sheer costs of producing a game these days, yes we have to pay more, (possibly), but if I think the game is worth the price, then I will gladly pay for it.
Sadly due to the economy, we face a futre where 'innovative, groundbreaking games', possibly face a lesser chance of being made. Piracy won't help thier cause, not at all.
Steam has introduced me to the world of PC gaming, I'm happy to pay for a digitally distibuted game, I hope more and more companies use the example STEAM has set for tackling the 'problem' of digital distribution.
I thank you for changing my view on the matter somewhat, I won't be so ignorant,nor so jugemental when I read arguments for piracy.
:)
Indeed it's like hearing someone from 'the evil side'. That happens very rarely.
IMHO, I still think it is wrong, simply because of the sheer costs of producing a game these days, yes we have to pay more, (possibly), but if I think the game is worth the price, then I will gladly pay for it.
Sadly due to the economy, we face a futre where 'innovative, groundbreaking games', possibly face a lesser chance of being made. Piracy won't help thier cause, not at all.
Steam has introduced me to the world of PC gaming, I'm happy to pay for a digitally distibuted game, I hope more and more companies use the example STEAM has set for tackling the 'problem' of digital distribution.
I thank you for changing my view on the matter somewhat, I won't be so ignorant,nor so jugemental when I read arguments for piracy.
:)
I don't have issue with the "try before you buy" concept, especially with something as quirky as PC compatibility. Sadly not nearly enough people follow up and actually make the purchase.
Where you go?
I missed you so,
seems it's been forever,
since you've been gone.
Fort Minor aside, the only reason I would pirate is only for music because I can't afford every song I have. Also I buy most my games of Steam so that's not really an issue.
I missed you so,
seems it's been forever,
since you've been gone.
Fort Minor aside, the only reason I would pirate is only for music because I can't afford every song I have. Also I buy most my games of Steam so that's not really an issue.
@Mushman: It seems that there are a whole ton of "reasons" for people to download games, but I think it basically boils down to: I want it, it's easy, and I won't get in trouble for it. When I was seriously pirating games, I felt like a douche while I'm doing it, but if I ended up playing a pirate copy of a game till the end, I would wait until it came down in price to about half the cost before I bought it. It sucks, and it's still wrong, but I'm doing my part as far as I can.
@Mxy: Back when we didn't have the availability of demos, it made more sense. Now it's not too much of an argument because I really do see a decent amount of them even for PC. However, there are still a lot of publishers that don't put demos out for PC, but do it for consoles. That's just ridiculous, because it gives credence to that stupid argument.
@Scrixx: Yeah, I'm a terrible thief of music. But I record it off the radio. Internet or analog, I don't care.
I really can't bring myself to buy things off Steam. It just feels wrong not unwrapping the game. I guess I'm old.
@Mxy: Back when we didn't have the availability of demos, it made more sense. Now it's not too much of an argument because I really do see a decent amount of them even for PC. However, there are still a lot of publishers that don't put demos out for PC, but do it for consoles. That's just ridiculous, because it gives credence to that stupid argument.
@Scrixx: Yeah, I'm a terrible thief of music. But I record it off the radio. Internet or analog, I don't care.
I really can't bring myself to buy things off Steam. It just feels wrong not unwrapping the game. I guess I'm old.
Great article man. Personally, I pirate games because I'm a thief.
However, if its good, I actually do go out and buy it, so I can get the "Christmas morning as a lil' kid unwrapping a gift" feeling. Did it with the Korg DS game, and did it with Dragon Quest IV.
However, if its good, I actually do go out and buy it, so I can get the "Christmas morning as a lil' kid unwrapping a gift" feeling. Did it with the Korg DS game, and did it with Dragon Quest IV.
I am downloading an illegal copy of Left 4 Dead, right fucking now.
Yeah, that's right, you'd better rage!
Why? I don't own a 360(never will) and my desktop is at the bare minimal requirements. Don't wanna buy a game that won't work, no matter how awesome it is.
Yeah, that's right, you'd better rage!
Why? I don't own a 360(never will) and my desktop is at the bare minimal requirements. Don't wanna buy a game that won't work, no matter how awesome it is.
Rage? Either that's sarcasm or you missed that I said rage is pointless.
At least I think you'll just boot up single player to see if it works well on your computer, instead of scouring the interwebz for hacked servers, because that really sucks... believe me. From your last post, I'm glad to see that you're actually taking the whole idea of what we were doing back in the day (and every now and again...) and making good on it.
That's my boy, Blue. That's my boy.
At least I think you'll just boot up single player to see if it works well on your computer, instead of scouring the interwebz for hacked servers, because that really sucks... believe me. From your last post, I'm glad to see that you're actually taking the whole idea of what we were doing back in the day (and every now and again...) and making good on it.
That's my boy, Blue. That's my boy.
I am a pirate on some level, but I'm mostly a good guy who buys his entertainment; my DVD and videogame collection prove that.
I've reached a nice balance where I only download shit I can't find in store or am not sure about, in any other case I fork out the dough.
Anyway, every single person that has ever used the internet is a pirate, without exception. Anybody who says they aren't is either lying or ignorant.
I've reached a nice balance where I only download shit I can't find in store or am not sure about, in any other case I fork out the dough.
Anyway, every single person that has ever used the internet is a pirate, without exception. Anybody who says they aren't is either lying or ignorant.
If you get caught... just say videogames teached you how to do it.
Seems to work for everything else.
Seems to work for everything else.
Skribble is right. We've all done it even if we might forget or not openly admit it.
Piracy is a double edge sword. I have no qualms about music, because if I went back to recording off the radio onto tapes, its the same thing (no matter what RIAA etc tell you). Truth is that the music industry have been ripping off the consumer with huge prices for years, but that's okay in the eyes of the law. Now that the tables are turned on them (even when they had plenty of fore warning about mp3s back in the day), they don't like it, so the jumped up bs law of copyright infringement was born, just to help them. The law does not help the man in the street, so some means of online media revolution is in order to correct such mistakes.
I feel that music should be free if not much cheaper, to a degree. Games/films/tv series should naturally cost more money, but as they age, the price drops, to the point where one day it exist as a free/cheap copy.
The problem games have, especially the old classics, is a means of preservation for the future. All games in the last 20 years can be found, but most games from the first 10 years are in land fils etc. One of the best ways to preserve them is have them be available online, for free if possible. This kind of thing makes certain types of retro piracy more justified. And if someone chooses to do an update or re-release of classic game X, the said roms can be pulled offline (well, you can try).
I understand why PC gamers pirate games, but with PC games now packaged properly like console games (none of that cardboard box crap), games stores should start accepting them again. Perhaps there's not enough demand these days though (but there's always ebay). Preowned games do stimulate the console market a lot, so when I hear talk of some in the industry wanting to get rid of that, we know it will do more harm than good, and I'm sure games sales would dip.
DLC is nice, but humans like physical game stuff more, IMO. As for tv/dvd stuff, I like a try before I buy option, be it a later watch on, tv or an advanced view torrent option. Then, I'll make the do/don't buy decision. For pirate emu games, I only bother with Mame, Kawaks for old arcade stuff or ScummVm for old PC greats.
My rule of gaming is, importing is always a better than piracy, but piracy is the omega last resort for me, if I want something that much and can get it nowhere else. Also the older it is, the more justifiable it is to pirate.
Piracy is a double edge sword. I have no qualms about music, because if I went back to recording off the radio onto tapes, its the same thing (no matter what RIAA etc tell you). Truth is that the music industry have been ripping off the consumer with huge prices for years, but that's okay in the eyes of the law. Now that the tables are turned on them (even when they had plenty of fore warning about mp3s back in the day), they don't like it, so the jumped up bs law of copyright infringement was born, just to help them. The law does not help the man in the street, so some means of online media revolution is in order to correct such mistakes.
I feel that music should be free if not much cheaper, to a degree. Games/films/tv series should naturally cost more money, but as they age, the price drops, to the point where one day it exist as a free/cheap copy.
The problem games have, especially the old classics, is a means of preservation for the future. All games in the last 20 years can be found, but most games from the first 10 years are in land fils etc. One of the best ways to preserve them is have them be available online, for free if possible. This kind of thing makes certain types of retro piracy more justified. And if someone chooses to do an update or re-release of classic game X, the said roms can be pulled offline (well, you can try).
I understand why PC gamers pirate games, but with PC games now packaged properly like console games (none of that cardboard box crap), games stores should start accepting them again. Perhaps there's not enough demand these days though (but there's always ebay). Preowned games do stimulate the console market a lot, so when I hear talk of some in the industry wanting to get rid of that, we know it will do more harm than good, and I'm sure games sales would dip.
DLC is nice, but humans like physical game stuff more, IMO. As for tv/dvd stuff, I like a try before I buy option, be it a later watch on, tv or an advanced view torrent option. Then, I'll make the do/don't buy decision. For pirate emu games, I only bother with Mame, Kawaks for old arcade stuff or ScummVm for old PC greats.
My rule of gaming is, importing is always a better than piracy, but piracy is the omega last resort for me, if I want something that much and can get it nowhere else. Also the older it is, the more justifiable it is to pirate.
