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Beneath the Pixels (Game Club) Announcement Post: Wind Waker
vexed alex | 3:41 PM on 10.05.2009 17 comments


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After a week long delay, Beneath the Pixels (recently renamed from Game Club) is now set to go. I’ve got the details ready for all of you lovely people to participate. Though, I’m not going to pretend I know what I’m doing. No pretenses here. This could be a complete failure, but hopefully you’re curious enough about it to participate. This way we can all fail as a group if things go completely bad!

I’ve decided with the help of a few community members that the game to break the ice will be The Legend of Zelda: the Wind Waker. It certainly isn’t a particularly short game like I originally wanted, but it was something I have been wanting to play for a long time.

Since I haven’t played it, my two partners in crime did and have been able to help with finding a spot to stop. Ryu89 has decided that stopping right after “Dragon Roost Cavern” would be appropriate, so look out for that. We will. I don’t mind if you play on ahead, but you won’t be able to discuss anything outside of our stopping location on the post.

I realize that not all gamers play alike, but I doubt any of us are going to try to 100% the game. You might if you have time, but we’re going to be strolling through it casually. That’s going to be a lot of the fun, though. It’s seeing how differently other people play the game. That goes for difficulty and which platform you decide to play any particular game on.

We’re splitting the Wind Waker discussion into three parts. We should be done with Wind Waker by the end of October. Plans for the next one have not been fully thought out, but we have decided on possibly having the next game selection go up as a vote. I’ll have a list of about 3 or 5 games and whatever wins will be the next topic. Again, all of us depends on mine and your motivation to keep this thing alive. I’m a simple man, though. A small group of fans will more than likely be enough to keep me at it.

I should reiterate what Beneath the Pixels is really about to avoid confusion. We’re not going to review a game. This isn’t a buyer’s guide. This is us playing a game for a set period and having a quasi-educated discussion about it.

We’ll have 3 main community members -- one of which will be me -- discussing on the blog, and I’m hoping that we will have discussion bleeding into the comments. This will only work with community participation, so I hope many of you have a copy of Wind Waker and a Wii/Gamecube laying around to follow us with.

So that’s it! Look out for the first real BtP blog next Wednesday where we’ll end the first part and start the second one. That will also be your chance to discuss your experience with the game in that blog’s comment.

The three of us discussing this month's game are Jonathan Ross, Ryu89, and me.

Special thanks to Ryu89 for the new name and the idea of leaving the game choices go to a vote.

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Got any game suggestions? Want to be a part of the blog’s main discussion? E-mail me with the subject line “Game Suggestion” or “I want in…” for the latter. If you want to be part of the three amigos, please leave your Destructoid username and the best way to contact you electronically.



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ryu89's Destructoid Blog
Great can't wait for this to start.
Y0j1mb0's Destructoid Blog
What ryu89 said. This looks to be interesting.
RonBurgandy2010's Destructoid Blog
Personally, I think that freeware PC games would be better for this series. They take less time to complete, they usually have very low system specs, and THEY'RE FREE! This means ANYONE could participate.


But that's just my opinion, it's your series, do with it what you will.
ryu89's Destructoid Blog
But ron, most of those games are either SHIT or have no discussion value to them.
Diverse's Destructoid Blog
This sounds like a rad idea. To bad I can't discuss video games worth a shit.
Diverse's Destructoid Blog
@Ryu89: Worst comment I have ever seen anyone make ever on Destructoid. Hands down.
Bigby's Destructoid Blog
Well I guess this is a good enough reason to get a Wii then. Geez, damn Zelda.
Wexx's Destructoid Blog
Blargh, need to either take over my living room or set up my wii in my room.

Ron: Ehh, maybe for a few entries, but playing popular games is still good for discussion too. There are a lot of SHITTY freeware games if you haven't noticed.
vexed alex's Destructoid Blog
@Diverse: Not entirely. Most freeware games really have very little to discuss or are either bad or incredibly mediocre. Most

We could sneak in a few free indie games, but as far as it being a discussion gold mine I don't really feel like that's true. The ones that really do have something interesting usually last around 10 to 20 minutes, and for the purposes of this series' format, there is such a thing as "too short".

And also, I never said that I wouldn't do long games. I just needed something short for the first one. Though, I did kinda' back peddle from that when I picked Wind Waker.
eternalplayer2345's Destructoid Blog
I beat this for the first time in july so I'm just gonna go off of that, but can't wait to contribute
de BLOO's Destructoid Blog
Alex, promise to be extra wetback?


PLZ!!!
garison's Destructoid Blog
I'm sorry for pulling out of the project at the last second :( But I freaking love this game so much, you guys will have a blast playing it :) And I can't wait to see what you think of it!
Steel Squirrel's Destructoid Blog
Are there really that many ways to play a Zelda game?
Thought there was only one.
Dexter345's Destructoid Blog
Sounds cool.
ArrestedDeveloper's Destructoid Blog
Wind Waker is long as S but might be in my top two Zelda games, have fun guys.
vexed alex's Destructoid Blog
It only took me around 3 or 4 hours to complete this first part. Not too bad.
Krow's Destructoid Blog
@Vexed Alex:
In regards to free games not allowing for discussion, I point to Cave Story. That would be the one I suggest we all play next.


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The original Robocop was fantastic. It was funny, violent, and it had some things to say about society (though not intelligently). The movie bordered on a thin line of acceptable ridiculousness, and was rather enjoyable cyberpunk flick. Robocop 2 and 3 on the other hand, were awful pieces of shit.

Everyone seems to place the blame on poor old Frank Miller for the dreadful sequels, but he says otherwise. According to him, Hollywood took his screenplay and made drastic changes. Producers of the film claimed that most Miller’s vision was “unfilmable”. Nevertheless, it left a bad taste in his mouth. Miller wasn’t too happy with the way Hollywood worked.

From 2003 to 2006 Avatar Press published nine issues of Frank Miller’s Robocop, now deemed to be the real Robocop sequels by nerds across the globe. The book follows Miller’s original Robocop 2 script, and bit off of Robocop 3 as well. He didn’t write it though. The adaptation was written by Steven Grant, but was looked over by Frank Miller.

With all that said, I don’t know if what Miller had written in his original script was worth all of the drama. The outlining story is practically the same. Detroit is still shitty, OCP still replaces the cops with a private military of criminals, and there is still a “Robocop 2” that Robocop has to battle.

I won’t tell you what differences there are between the movie and comic specifically. What I will say is that they make very little difference towards the end quality. Lewis still has no character, as well as everyone else in the book. Nothing is explored -- a generic and tired formula that begs to be ignored.

Grant does inject a bit of that satire found in the original film, and while it isn’t as good, he still manages to land a few on the bullseye. What is landing one hundred percent is the violence. Some of you could have fun with watching a woman’s burning, melting corpse slam against a wall.

The art was a tad difficult for me to review. While I can’t say it’s necessarily bad, it sure is “busy” (for lack of a better term). Too busy. Many times I’ve had to take a while to figure out what I was looking at. The detail work was somewhat impressive. In a way, it sort of channels that sense of chaos that comes from this universe’s version of Detroit. You can take it either way.

I can’t recommend this to everyone. I can’t even recommend it to most Robocop fans. You gain nothing from reading it. If you’re looking for something violent, or just want to rinse out some of what you saw in Robocop 2 and 3, then this could be for you. Everyone else should just…



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