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You disappoint me
Josh Tolentino | 1:12 PM on 10.06.2009 89 comments




Yeah, you. The guy who was just watching the Endurance Run instead of buying a copy of Persona 4. You're part of the problem.

Look at the sales figures from this year's fiscal report!

August 2008 to July 2009

North America
Persona 4 (PS2) – 110,000 (150,000 expected)
Devil Survivor (DS) – 40,000 (25,000 expected)

Japan
Persona 4* (PS2) – 300,000 (180,000 expected)
Devil Summoner 2 (PS2) – 180,000 (120,000 expected)
Devil Survivor (DS) – 110,000 (100,000 expected)
Persona (PSP) – 160,000 (50,000 expected)
Growlanser (PSP) – 50,000 (40,000 expected)

FORTY THOUSAND LESS THAN EXPECTED.

Granted, Persona 4 was released in Japan way back in July '08 and in North America only in December (between two fiscal years no less), so it's six months younger but seriously. I was hoping for a slow burn effect like with Valkyria Chronicles, and for all I know that game STILL didn't sell as well as Sega was hoping.

I am happy for some things, though. You liked Devil Survivor more than I expected, which is great, because it's easily as good as Persona (I should write about that sometime).

Also, thankfully Japan made up for you bunch of slackers. And Jesus Christ look at the numbers for Persona PSP. That increases the chances for a Persona 2 remake, so be happy for it, jerks.

Man, I wish blog posts could properly convey bitter glowering. And here I was thinking of putting down another cheesecake gallery. Now I think I'll just call down a few secret bosses on your ass.



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garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:12
garison
I bought it day one.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:13
Y0j1mb0
You aint talking to me baby. I bought P3,P4, Devil Summoner 2 and Valkyria Chronicles. But I agree with the sentiment of putting your money where your mouth is. Instead what people do is wait for that game to go down in price or get it used yet get the latest EA or Ubisoft overhyped game day one.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:25
Naim Master
Oh, c'mon, it wasn't that bad, only seven million and ninety nine thousand copies less than Halo 3...
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:26
Monodi
But I don't have a PS2 :C
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:28
Naim Master
But yeah, I did buy P4, I was going to buy P3 FES but then P3P was announced... And Valkyria is on third on my Must Buy list...
thefil's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:28
thefil
You know, you can't force people to buy a game they don't want...

Personally, I paid for/played Persona 4, but if it's not going to sell to folks, no amount of glowering can guilt them into it - nor should it.
shipero's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:31
shipero
You're not the boss of me!
Insanity-Oo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:31
Insanity-Oo
Sorry man, couldn't even beat P3. I think I'm stalling on Devil survivor too. It seems my ability to fuse useful demons sucks.
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:42
Stevil
I actually find Persona fans to be part of the problem. I love Persona, but when you get people being so obsessive over it, then it can be really off-putting. They kind of like to think it's 'their little secret' and the amount of discussion and fan artwork they generate just seems to be impenetrable to outsiders. I'm just generalising, but I think it's more than people not buying a game out of ignorance or bad advertising when it comes to JRPGs.
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:48
Char Aznable
I've never bought a Shin Megami Tensei/Persona game, and don't really plan on doing so in the future. So there.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:48
Holyetheline
You might be talking to me but before you get too upset keep in mind that I don't have a PS2.
Handy's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:49
Handy
I bought it. Actually it was your writing about P3 that convinced me to try out 4..... I should probably thank you because it’s now one of my favourite games ever.
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:50
Electrium
I bought Persona 4 the day it came out. Absolutely loved that game. If you're a JRPG fan who hasn't played a Persona game yet, you really should go out and buy it. You're missing out on some excellent games!
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:54
RonBurgandy2010
Sorry, I have a life.
ArcticFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:54
ArcticFox
I bought Persona 4 and Persona PSP day one. I need to pick up Devil Survivor though. I'M NOT THE PROBLEM! PLEASE don't be disappointed in me!
Nic128's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:57
Nic128
I contributed to this number. Not regretting it. 40 hours in.
grasslunatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:00
grasslunatic
I bought P4 and P3 FES.
Senisan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:04
Senisan
Persona 4 is the only game I've purchased from the Megami Tensei series. 90 hrs and I can't believe I made it that far without breaking my controller.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:04
Black Nexus
I'm a day one for P4 and valkyria so "Ye not guilty".


Also tonight DEMON SOULSSS, who's with me?
sickNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:07
sickNasty
Sorry, I don't like anime teens or JRPG's
Tdiddy9182's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:14
Tdiddy9182
I hope more people realize that persona is a great franchise and not just an over the top, self parody like what Final Fantasy seems to be turning into.
Batthink's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:20
Batthink
I did my bit for Europe by buying P3: FES and P4, but I can't see a release date for Devil Survivor for some reason...

Maybe the reason why P4 got less is because they looked at P3 and P3: FES and thought 'hey, maybe there is going to be a P4:FES!' :OD

And then foolishly decided to wait for a game that was never going to come out.
Tha_Meat's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:21
Tha_Meat
Bought it used.
Batthink's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:23
Batthink
When I mean 'P4 got less', I mean 'P4 got less sales than expected'.

And when I mean 'they looked at P3...', I meant 'the potential customers looked at P3...'

Damn, I suck. :O(
Deathofthedead's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:27
Deathofthedead
Jumping on the bandwagon, here - don't get mad at me, I bought 3, FES (yes, I bought the game twice - full retail both times), 4, Devil Survivor, Devil Summoner 2, PSPersona, and so on. Atlus should know by now that I'm going to give them my money.

But I think Stevil's right. One look at most of the frothing Persona fanboys out there is enough to convince you the games are only for whiny, Japan-obsessed emo kids. Obviously, this isn't the case, but I do think the series and its fans put off a lot of would-be players.
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:36
A New Challenger
I bought it but it's still sealed. Damn backlog. I was really surprised how much I enjoyed P3 as only a casual RPG fan, and the level of care in the localization impressed me, especially as the only voice-acted RPG I'd played before was Baten Kaitos.

But after 140 hours of P3 I felt like I needed a break.
vApathyv's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:37
vApathyv
I bought Persona 4. And I don't even have a PS2. So I can't even play it. I just like the concept and love Atlus. >_>
BulletTrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:53
BulletTrain
I bought my copy. And a copy of Persona PSP. And a copy P3. And a copy of P3 FES. And a copy of Shin megami tensei: Devil Summoner Raidou kuzunoha vs King abbadon, etc, so on and so forth.
Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:55
Bulkmailer
Persona 3 and 4 and Devil Summoner 2 all brand new son.
Sterling Aiayla Lyons's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:56
Sterling Aiayla Lyons
You tell'em Unangbangkay!

Actually, I think I'm a little more interested in how well Devil Summoner 2 did in North America, honestly.
Mike Moran's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:58
Mike Moran
Stevil: Anyone who thinks Persona is their little secret is a fucking moron. For one because Persona is the least obscure of the entire Shin Megami Tensei series, and it's not even obscure anymore. Any RPG fan at least knows the name Persona by now. I think the larger problem is that Persona 4 is a late PS2 game. Many people don't even own a PS2 anymore. People keep on throwing their Playstations at me down at my store. My bargain bins are overflowing with PS2 games because everyone wants to ditch their collection.

I'd bet a lot of Persona fans that act like what you described don't even realize Persona is part of a much larger series, because they're too busy thinking they're stylish and in the know.
mourning orange's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 16:03
mourning orange
I bought a PS2 for both myself and my little brother so we could play the Persona games.

It was totally worth it!
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 16:05
Josh Tolentino
So...some of you got turned off by the game because it has...fans?



Great. Just...*sigh*
MisterGrieves's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 16:15
MisterGrieves
Well, I bought Persona 4 and enjoyed it despite the creepy fanbase, so...

If you excuse me, I'm going to go back in time to 1994 Internet and yell at everyone who didn't buy Earthbound.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 16:21
Aurain
I bought it day one.

Sadly, That was several months late because I'm european.
I still bought this awesome game ASAP though.
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 16:24
Stevil
@Wry: Seriously, one thread on GamesFAQ was about how underdeveloped the character of Koromaru was. Yeah, the dog. This is the kind of thing they talk about on there all the time. How do you enter a self-contained world like that...and in the end, would you want to just to learn how to learn fusions?
Xhumation's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 16:27
Xhumation
The Persona Games never officialy came out in my country. so I bought it from someone else off ebay.

Sadly that only counts as 1 sale for Atlus.
GohanGVO's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 16:30
GohanGVO
Perhaps Atlus overestimated the level of enthusiasm for the game and overshot their expectations.
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 16:37
Stevil
@Unabang: No, I love Persona. I bought P3 on a whim on its first day and ended up getting back into RPGs because of it. I eventually got P3:FES and P4 too, which I enjoyed a lot more. I just don't like having to read a majority of the fanbase's 'sixth form poetry' thoughts or look at their amateur DeviantART. But that's seperate entity to what I experienced from the game.

As far as I'm concerned, when I buy a game and I go home and play it, I don't worry if someone else bought it too. I just play the game and enjoy it. Does it really matter if 40,000 didn't buy the game? As long as you sat there and the game gave you an experience, that's all that counts.
Chibi_Zero's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 16:42
Chibi_Zero
You're not talking to me. I brought Persona(1, 3, FES and 4), Devil Summoner 1/2 and Devil Survivor(need to actually open that.) And I even picked up that S.Link pack from Amazon too!
Droll's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 16:50
Droll
Man, The Endurance Run is So awesome. It's like watching one of the best RPG's ever made without having to buy it!
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 16:50
Jonathan Holmes
Hooray for Devil Survivor!

And yeah, most of my favorite games these days aren't selling. Niche' gamers must be getting poorer or something.
de BLOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 17:04
de BLOO
LOL

HYPOCRISY IS VILE HERE, SIR!
GenStrike's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 17:12
GenStrike
For my cred, I've bought almost every ps2 SMT game except for Devil Summoner 1. I don't have a psp so no persona psp.

Most of my friends bitch about how every rpg is the same with the same story and the same teens so I told about the Persona games. They bitch about the dating sim elements. Then I tell them about Devil Survivor and the other SMT games they've passed over. They got 'Oh whatever'. Most people just close themselves off to these games even though all they do is bitch about the status quo.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 17:15
EternalDeathSlayer
You can't honestly expect PS2 games to sell really well these days, especially the more obscure ones like Persona.

It's just the way it is in America. Most Americans just want to kill people with guns or play music on fake instruments.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 17:21
EternalDeathSlayer
Oh and besides it being somewhat obscure, JRPGs in general aren't that popular in the states. They hit their popularity peak about 12 years ago with FF7. Since then they've slowly lost momentum.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 17:35
EternalDeathSlayer
Stevil: I have to disagree with the sales not mattering. They do matter to unangbangkay because he likes these games and would like to see more of them, and for that to keep happening, the publishers have to continue making some profit off of them.

So yeah, I know how he feels. Sorry I didn't buy it, but I don't have enough time for RPGs anymore, really.
Shoop's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 17:39
Shoop
Atlus is one of the only companies I still consistently buy games from. And I got that awesome P4 t-shirt/Teddie bundle too <3
Phalanxxx's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 17:57
Phalanxxx
I'm watching the endurance run right now, but I only watch it because I lost my 40 hour save to random file corruption on the PS3. My copy goes unloved on my shelf next to P3FES.

Is it still wrong?
Riegel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 18:16
Riegel88
I bought it, day one!
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