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Why Computer Gaming COULD be the future.
trunxkam45 | 10:47 PM on 08.16.2010 12 comments


I've been going through quite a struggle in the current generation of gaming. I've wanted a playstation 3 for quite a while as well as a newer PC(custom made of course). Problem is almost all my funds go towards college loans. Well I've come to the realization that I can't have my cake and eat it too. Many of the recent games I've been playing are ps2 titles, and older ones for the NES, SNES, famicom, super famicom, and famicom disk system(since they're cheap). Been watching several older gamers(around my age, some older) on youtube talk about old shit. Like Lazy Game Reviews:



As a youngin' I thought when I'd be this age I'd be able to purchase systems and games to my heart's delight. But there's too many options out there and too little cash in my wallet. So I talked to my good friend who's been a staunch advocate for pc gaming for the past 10 years. The most recent console he owns is a n64. At first I was antagonistic towards him, saying how a ps3 is a cheaper platform and has more games that I want to play. But little by little, I started to fall in love with pc's again. Let me try to list all the key points that came up during our discussion.

1.) If I were to upgrade my 5+ years old computer to current gaming standards, I would have to pay around 300 bucks.(all those parts pretty much add up to a whole new system) And while a ps3 would also cost 300 bucks, I would still have to pay extra for controllers, and other hardware depending on the game.

2.) While online console gaming has come quite far since the days of SegaNet, there are still several issues that need to be worked out. Several games still experience lag. Many features are left out of games which are commonplace on pc games. (online multiplayer is still new for games that aren't fps's) Online play for console games is heavily dependent on support from the company. Dedicated servers, mods, patches, etc. are far more common with pc titles.

3.) The cost of pc games is generally cheaper. Several games are available on platforms on Steam for insanely low prices practically every week. Also combined with the fact that practically every pc title that comes out now is available for digital release, I no longer have to go 20 miles to the nearest bestbuy to pick up zeno clash when I can simply download it. True story, I actually had to go quite far to find King of Fighters '98 soon after its release. Less popular titles are harder to find due to them being on physical media. Making console game sales heavily reliant on advertising.

4.) PCs as a solitary, stable gaming platform are still relatively new. Watching several LGRs and other's videos, I realized that in the 80s and 90s, several different operating systems were around. This meant that for a long time, games were not simply for "PCs" but for "Tandy compatible" or DOS systems. Also, I always thought that computers originally had more impressive graphics and the technological gap between consoles and computers was decreasing. (in terms of games) However, I noticed that several games out in the 80s and 90s weren't as impressive, popular, or as frequently released as NES or SNES games. Yet, during certain other eras, like the late 90s and early 2000s, there was a definite boom of computer gaming with 3d shooters and online gaming.

5.) Consoles are becoming more like computers. I thought this especially when the 360 came out. Now, even installs are becoming quite common with console titles. No longer do console games have that advantage of being quickly accessible. Consider this:



Look at that. A 20+ year old system with dirty cartridges. STILL, all you gotta do is blow, insert, and turn on. Voila, right at the game's startup screen.

Now Look here:



Loading screens. Sure individually they are pretty fast but look at all the shit you have to go through to get to the game! And this is AFTER you boot up the system and navigate through the system GUI. Now I'm not saying that you don't have to do this on a pc. Quite the contrary, seeing how my point was that consoles are becoming more like computers.

6.) Consoles are becoming more expensive, computers are getting cheaper and consoles are not as well made anymore. Remember how much the ps3 initially cost?

Oh yeah.


What did it have like a 60 gb hard drive? Several heating issues? And I don't think I need to say anything about the 360.(100 dollar wireless adapter?) Even my wii gives me trouble sometimes, freezing or refusing to boot up entirely without me unplugging and replugging the power cord. Even before that I remember my friends ps2's were breaking right and left when they were about 3 years old. My SNES, NES, and twin famicom are still running smoothly though.

Previously I stated that I would have to spend 300 on a new computer system. I was also looking at laptops. 690 for a core i5 system with a 500 gb hard drive, 4 gb of ram, etc. Now, given that this is primarily for school use, the power on that baby is insane given the price. The major stumbling block here that prevents mainstream computers such as this one to play hardcore games is a macho video card. While I have no doubt it would be able to run team fortress 2 no problem, crysis 2 might be a challenge. Even still, it's safe to say that powerful laptops are getting cheaper. Also, it would be foolish to ignore that it is quite common for people today to each have their own personal computer. It's a good thing macs are getting back into gaming. So my basic statement is that if the production of powerful video cards can come down enough so that they can be put in more mainstream systems, more computers can be used as current gen gaming platforms. PC/mac games will still be around for a while just because the platform is so common.

7.) The release of systems in set generations creates a weird spectrum in terms of the quality of games. You know what I'm talking about. Several times at the release of a new system(ps2, ps3, 360) the launch titles absolutely SUCK. And those towards the end of a life cycle tend to rock hard. But can be overlooked.

8.) Waves. I think that best sums up how we should think of the future of gaming platforms. Like I said before, in different times, different platforms were preferred due to the games they offered. However, it is possible that different platforms do not need to compete due to niche differentiation. Coexistence can be attained if different systems focus on different types of games. And with the focus on motion control in console games, it's possible. Who knows. All I know is that pc gaming is alive and well. Hello, Starcraft II? Also consider the current trend with consumer electronics being the ability to use one device to accomplish several different types of tasks.(look at phones)



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otogi_guy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/17/2010 03:04
otogi_guy
console vs pc blog post
Om Nom On Souls's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/17/2010 03:26
Om Nom On Souls
tell me where I can build a competent gaming PC for 300 and I'll eat my own hand. Honestly, if you want a rig that can run serious games at max graphics, you're looking at about 1200, then a good 200 for a decent screen. It could probably be done for about 1000 depending on where you buy
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/17/2010 07:24
The Silent Protagonist
I say handhelds and smartphones are the future.

Just look how internet service providers and developers have been running scared these last few years. No one wants cable packages, developers are afraid if you so much as buy used. See how people can't shut up about their iPhones, Droids and Netflix. Watch as people drool over the 3Ds.

Everything is becoming more containable. Probably won't be long til we have netbooks that are every bit as good as a PC. Well be able to put away our silly TVs and PC towers, make our rooms more decorative and less filled with wires.

What was cutting edge yesterday will be shrunken down, more of the media we consume will become ever more containable. Before you know it we'll all have brain cases and cyborg bodies.
WastelandTraveler's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/17/2010 09:35
WastelandTraveler
@Om Nom On Souls - While I will agree that $300 is unrealistic in terms of building a whole new system.. I will have to say the same for $1200 to build a gaming machine to run games at max settings is a little unrealistic as well.

Take for instance this system
Case w/ 120mm Fan ($29.99)
ASUS MBoard ($89.99)
Core 2 Quad @ 2.5 ghz ($149.99)
ATI HD 4870 1GB ($129.99)
4 GB DDR2 Ram ($87.99)
320 GB HDrive @ 7200 RPM ($49.99)
550 Watt 80+ Cert. - Crossfire/SLI Ready PSU ($84.99)
Wireless Keyboard & Mouse ($28.99)
DVD RW Drive ($20)

System Cost at current stage : $664.91

If you dont have a copy of windows 7 or XP add $99.99 to that for Windows 7 Home Premium OEM.

System Cost w/ new OS : $764.90

And chances are if you have a 360 or PS3 you [probably] have it hooked up to an HDTV, and if thats the case it [probably] has a VGA or DVI port in the back to which you can hook up the computer, along with an PC Audio port. So a monitor would not be needed, and the worry of cords would not be there with wireless keyboard & mouse.

However if you need a monitor...You really don't need anything more than 20" if you are sitting 3 feet away and can get damn good 20" Widescreen LCD's for around $119, some even with HDMI ports.

Total fully loaded system (with monitor) cost : $884.99
+ Shipping the ABSOLUTE MOST you would spend on this package is $900

**** Do note that this may not be a final package for everyone, some may be able to cross over hardware from their current machine to this new system thus eliminating items such as ram, hard drives, OS, etc. which will cut down the price by a good $50-$80 at the LEAST.


How does this system work performance wise? Well this is almost EXACTLY the same system as mine, just a different mother board. And I am running every game out there maxed @ 1600x900 w/ 2xAA and 8x AF at 60+ FPS - with the exception of GTAIV being the unoptimized console port that it is.

And yes this system will run many of these games at the same solid frame rates @ 1920x1080p resolution w/ 2xAA and 2xAF


If any of you want further proof on this setup I will be more than happy to email you the wishlist from newegg.
WastelandTraveler's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/17/2010 09:43
WastelandTraveler
Also - if you build an AMD system w/ matching performance you can probably knock a good $150 off of the overall price. I only built this system in reference to mine because I know its performance capabilities with this specific hardware.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/17/2010 09:51
Occams electric toothbrush
Eh, consoles are great

so are PC's

the end
trunxkam45's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/17/2010 11:01
trunxkam45
@Om Nom On Souls: 1200?? Dude, like 5 years ago I built a top tier computer for 900 and it's still running beautifully. Also you can get Windows 7 professional edition for 30.00 if you have a college email address. And if you include a "decent monitor" into your pricing then you have to take into account the purchase of HDTVs for a system. I got one a few years ago for $1000. Granted these prices have gone down but so have computer parts. Also, like I mentioned earlier, the prices of laptops have come down considerably. Now while a $690.00 laptop(after rebates) is not the ultimate gaming platform, it just might be in the future. After all in the early 2000s people would spend thousands on alienware desktops for gaming. With computers becoming cheaper and more flexible than consoles, who knows what the future holds?

@The Silent Protagonist: Yea I could easily see portable consoles and smartphones replacing home consoles entirely.
commyzthatdont's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/17/2010 20:23
commyzthatdont
Last year I built a decent gaming PC for ~$440. Didnt include Windows XP, a dvd drive, or a monitor since I already had those, but it can run most new games well enough. The only limiting piece of hardware is the video card, so I cant max out the anti-aliasing.
Kytherno's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/17/2010 21:00
Kytherno
So, with #2, you're saying that users don't experience lag? Because it more depends on the independent companies producing the game to uphold the server, not the console itself. DBZ budokai tenkaichi 3 is a great example here. DBZBT3's servers were at the lowest "tier" anything could be. There was a 5 minute delay till you could punch when you wanted. Then you would be disconnected. Yet I can run CoD online perfectly.

#3, Yeah, but about $10 or less depending on steam or not. Also, they might be cheaper, but people still pirate them much more because there's no real drawback. If you know how to be a pirate, then there's no stopping you. On consoles, that's different, as Microsoft pointed out. But Nintendo is the same way, although they might be a getting a bit strict (banning R4s)

Also, #5, What? In a vague Idea, sure. Xbox 360's can facebook. But try and create a Xbox 360 or a ps3 emulator. I dare you! Consoles are mainly computers with massive RAM and graphical capabilities by removing what makes a PC a pc. The price to create a Xbox 360 emulator working on a pc rig, is MUCH more expensive than a 360.

And yeah, PS3's are expensive. Do some research, and realize that by having $300 PS3's, that sony loses money each time they sell one. They go for a profit in long-terms rather than at-the-get-go. The graphical prowess a ps3 has outmatches the pc by a long shot. Seriously, emulate Uncharted 2. You're computer will get up, kick you in the nuts, shout "WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN" and proceed to your dumpster, call in a tactical nuke, and end itself.

And what're you saying "bad launch titles"?! Nintendo is guarnteed to have a good one every new console. And they even had some sleeper hits like "Excite Truck" which could be the 2nd best wii racing game. 360 had stuff like Lost planet, Dead rising, Devil may cry. Ps3 didn't have anything, but hey, YOU GOT A BLU-RAY PLAYER out of the box! Don't have games? Get Hi-def movies!

Also, you want another issue with Computers? Things go obsolete too fast. Consoles, 3 come out every few years. PC has new graphical cards, rams, fans, cases, motherboards, and much more every couple of days. PC is so vast that it's not that hard to improve it. Hell, USB 3.0 is out now, and PC has first dibs. I like that.
Kytherno's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/17/2010 21:01
Kytherno
And even though you bother me with the stuff you just said, I still love your avatar.
trunxkam45's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/19/2010 11:04
trunxkam45
About #2, you proved my point. It's based on the company's support. Sure there are PC games with lag but that mostly depends on your machine.

3. Yea piracy is still an issue but Steam has helped to combat it. All the rewards that come with being a Steam user have given comp gamers an incentive to buy games legitimately. I'm pretty sure it was much worse before then.

5. You missed the point completely. I'm saying the original convenience of home consoles being easily bootable and quick to access is now gone because companies are giving them added functionalities which make them more like PCs. Also several games you have to install now. If you couple that with #6, the number of recent console hardware blunders, I think you'll see that although consoles are turning into computers, they are still not very good computers with frequent failures.

Yea Nintendo did have one good launch title. Devil May Cry 4, Dead Rising, and Lost Planet weren't launch titles btw.

While parts technically go obsolete quickly, you aren't always limited. Even with a 5+ year old system, I am able to play many popular games. There are several I can't but the abundance of freeware and typically low-fi indie games on PC don't make things so bad.

Also the introduction of video cards such as the ion 2 make affordable mainstream gaming, 1080p blu ray and flash playback a possibility. It's actually in this nettop for $380. http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/shuttles-excessively-thin-xs35-nettop-now-shipping-1080p-ion-222/

Shouldn't be hard to find a netbook in the $300-400 mark with one of these babies. Basically a portable ps3 with increased functionality. Not bad.

My main problem is with game devs that are dropping support of PCs. I mean for some franchises I see why. Others not really. It's all about niche differentiation.
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