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New genre in visual art; asynchronous interactive media...
tijames | 1:26 AM on 01.27.2010 4 comments


Sure, we have computer art in wikipedia's list of visual arts, but that refers to a wide range of things that can be made with a computer and what kind of art it is seen as. Interactive media is also something that's a bit vague in terms of certain principles and priorities in terms of something like a web site, or general user interfaces, communication networks (not so much, but it's included somewhat as like pop-culture references to like facebook in art), and games.

Specifically I want to discuss games simply because this is destructoid and we gamers are a more important bunch. Anywho, this a topic that is certain brought up a lot in destructoid: questions when we'll reach a golden when games are perceived to be art in their presentation. Also the fear that this type of entertainment will become like what comics are perceived to be by society that has never taken an open mind to go deep within the subculture to see there are truly certain graphic novels that could and sometimes are considered art.

Although some may want games to stay the way they are and never become anything more than they are, I personally and getting tired of them. Every year I buy less games and play the ones I have less and less (I don't like to trade in games, I keep them and replay a lot, too many in my collection...). I'm tired just tired of this generation of trends with almost every consumer product that is released. We're becoming like our parents or grandparents were in the 60s with all those crazy trends that are now somewhat mainstream (I confess, I'm a hippie by heart, but incidentally a pretty boy, its what happens in Miami, the sunlight makes you lazy, but you're forced to look good out of spite). *sigh* I ramble too much.

I've seen so much of it at CES '10 with gadgetry and I definitely expect more of it following later today, the 27th aka, god declared apple.inc and steve jobs as the second coming, finally. Gosh I've been waiting to confirm this for a long while, now I know it's true. Heh, jokes... So for games, the simple argument is with games like the guitar hero trend (I hate that game...) and the large amount of horrid games for the wii and multiplayer in games that don't need it, *sigh*. Story of my life I suppose. I just really want to ask this gamer community, do we really need all this? Is it really that important to you? I'd rather have more of xenosaga or shadow of the colossus and uhh... oh oh, echochrome!!! Yes; simple, but beautiful. Maybe a bit too simple, so much so that it gets a little tiresome.

Those three games are perfect examples of art in games, or games that are visual art. If you don't agree please comment, and if you have any games to include, please do. Anywho, I just hope that maybe there will be more of a demand for fun and visually inspiring games that can truly seen as art in a gallery being demonstrated on a nice widescreen display on the wall right next to a famous painting... maybe I'm overstepping this, maybe I'm foolish, but I truly believe that if there was a demand for and there were people new to this type of interactive media, they could appreciate it like I do with certain games.

Whatever the future may hold for games as art, I just hope that activision blizzard dies and guitar hero dies with it, bring fcukin' call of duty as well... (I'll instantly dislike anywho who makes the claim that mw2 is a work of art)





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Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2010 10:08
Occams electric toothbrush
mw2 is a work of art!

/fightingwerds
Trioptical's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2010 10:54
Trioptical
Well, certainly there are artistic elements to games. As you mentioned, Shadow of the Colossus, even in screenshots, has a certain visual appeal much like that of a painting. It also has nice music composition, which is widely considered to be an art form.

However, what I think will make games art, beyond other forms thus giving it legitimacy, are those things that only games can do: immersion and interactivity.

To me, it's not enough to put Shadow of the Colossus (yay, I can spell it now!) images in a gallery. Concepts and well taken screen shots are most definitely art. To experience the art of a game, a viewer has to be able to pick up the controller and feel the analog between holding a button and Wanda's grip on the giant beasts. Viewers need to be able to feel that extra oomph placed into the sword stabs simply by waiting a few moments to initiate the maneuver. They need to become more than viewers, they need to be participants.

Echochrome is a good choice too, but a still shot of echochrome means nothing; just another perspective bending visual illusion. Give someone camera controls though, let him or her thinking about how we perceive the world, and you have a thought-provoking piece of art.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2010 12:36
Elsa
... what Trioptical said!

I would say pretty much the same thing, only not as eloquently.
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