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Why do we accept such a poor standard of service from games stores?
the Tyke | 10:10 AM on 01.14.2010 37 comments


I'm not talking about the usual complaints. This is not a rant about hard selling strategy guides, or trying to fleece the ignorant into spending twenty pounds on an HDMI cable. What has me worked up right now is the incredibly poor service these places offer, and the abysmal standard of their staff.

I was in Game in Leicester yesterday. They have a huge poster up plugging the collectors edition of Mass Effect 2, a game I will be buying at some point, and I was curious about the price difference between it and the standard edition. So I asked the girl working the checkout how much the collectors edition was going to cost.

She turned round and scanned the games in the glass cabinet behind her, obviously looking for Mass Effect 2. Then she turned back to me and asked "is it out yet?". After a moments stunned silence, I explained it was due out at the end of month. The rest of the exchange is too tedious and painful to go over again. Suffice to say that she had clearly never heard of Mass Effect.

OK, so what? Surely one ignorant till monkey is no big deal. Well actually, it is, because it reveals an awful lot about their hiring practices. It is impossible for anyone who reads a single video game blog, news site or magazine, to have not heard of Mass Effect, so clearly this girl has little to no real interest in video games. Actually, given that the place she works in has a poster up advertising Mass Effect 2, maybe she can't read.

Obviously, Game do not consider knowledge about video games a prerequisite for those working in their video game stores. And hell, it seems to be working. Profits have been going up for the last few years, largely, it seems, due to used game sales. But with publishers increasingly looking for ways to restrict used game sales, from one use only download codes, to full on digital distribution, the second hand market might well have peaked. The pawn shop business model of Game and Gamestation might be a shrinking market.

If so, you will need to find a new way to entice customers into your stores. Friendly, knowledgeable staff might be a good start.



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Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 10:24
Xzyliac
Question: Was she attractive? Seriously. Many-a female video game store hirings are based on attractiveness.

Anyway I think this is the case anywhere you go in general. There's always gonna be those people who know nothing and are hired anyway. That's why I find a place I like with people I know know their shit and stick with them. If you're going into a specialty shop that's always gonna be the case. It's the same when I buy vinyl and when I buy hair products. If they're a specialty store it's always hit or miss. Even trained people like AT&T and Verizon stores.

The only place I've ever been where no matter where the shop was I knew they were on top of their game were Mac stores.

But seriously if she was attractive that explains it.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 10:25
Xzyliac
Oh and your avatar is the shit.
Piellar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 10:33
Piellar
Being in Montreal I tend to favorise shopping at Game Buzz instead of EB Games, mainly because the former always have employees that are enthusiastic about video game and two have actually given me several good advice, not all positive ones to make me buy, about some PS3 titles. I really appreciate that kind of honesty from a store clerk, even if it probably makes the manager frown. Being able to discuss your Dragon Age: Origins or Demon's Souls experience with a clerk is also nice.
Nic128's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 10:51
Nic128
@Piellar
Well, yes and no. The Gamebuzz I go to there's A) : the guy that knows his shit with an assistant who doesn't know shit. They have nice plushies and shirts which is nice.

I agree that just reading a blog about it, it's enough to know your stuff. Really.
s0lesurviv0r's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 10:51
s0lesurviv0r
Having flashbacks of asking Gamestop employees if they had Guilty Gear X2 and having Metal Gear Solid 2 constantly shoved in my face.
SimonSaysDie's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 11:19
SimonSaysDie
Actually, here in my neighborhood of California, we have the exact opposite problem. I have to deal with a total know-it-all game clerk who literally refuses to sell me games that he considers inferior (read: non-First-Person-Shooters) until I bug him for like 15 minutes.
Xhumation's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 11:35
Xhumation
A game store employee literally called me an idiot once.

I was looking for a preowned copy of Rock Band for the 360 and he called me an idiot and told me that game was a sony exclusive. I've never set foot in that store again.

I think that certain stores like gamestop in the U.S., Game Planet here in Mexico and apparently GAME in the UK have such a hold on the market that they just feel like they don't have to try anymore.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 11:48
Elsa
I would almost rather have an uneducated idiot serving me at a game store rather than a rabid fanboy trying to sell me a copy of UT3 for the Xbox when it hadn't been confirmed yet, I didn't own an Xbox and I just wanted to simply pre-order a copy for the PS3, not argue over it.
Cataract's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 12:01
Cataract
Honestly, I think you're over reacting.

"The rest of the exchange is too tedious and painful to go over again."
STFUAJPG.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 12:17
Xzyliac
You guys really need to find better places to shop. Or Amazon or something.

Except Cataract. He's cool.
A Very Drunk Panda's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 12:30
A Very Drunk Panda
This is partly why I shop online, but most of my exchanges have been.. relatively peaceful. There was one time where I managed to get my hands on a copy of the Fallout 3 Anchorage/Pit retail DLC disk almost a full week before it was due to release; Long story short, the guy refused to sell it to me because I was 17, despite it being old enough to purchase it, and I had a presentable I.D.
I returned to the store later to look for something else to ease my superpowered butthurt, and I found the asshole who denied selling me the game purchasing the last copy for himself. My rage was atomic when I saw that.
s0lesurviv0r's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 13:18
s0lesurviv0r
Seriously why hasn't everybody switched to amazon by now?
Piellar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 13:35
Piellar
I was also infuriated back when the Wii was realeased that all Toys'R'Us employees had first dibs on new Wii shipments (which meant ~2-3 new Wiis per 2 weeks at the time where I lived >_<).
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 13:56
The Silent Protagonist
Having a hardcore gamer as a salesman can sometimes be a detriment rather than an asset to sales on a single-store's level.

I knew a guy that would trash the Metal Gear games in front his store's customers, making them think it was a bad series. See, not all customers are hardcore gamers and just looking to try something they heard about.

Hardcore gamers actually tend to be really bad about being inclusive to the more mainstream or casual gamer, they come on too strong and shoot some great things down because of their tastes rather than temper their opinions.

When I did retail at a music store, I went about it like this - rather than disapprove of something a customer was buying, I used my knowledge of music and artists to find other things they might like. It wasn't so much about what I liked or disliked about a band or artist, but what that customer liked and the closest things I could connect to what they were looking for.

Like there was this lady that loved celtic music and wanted her daughter to get into it, too. So when we went over those options, I pointed out The Corrs to her. They have a strong celtic influence, but are also rather poppy and inviting to a younger listener. They also do some classical stuff with a more modern edge.

They loved it. And I could do it for the heavy metal fan, christian contemporary, blugrass fans and more. It probably helps that I grew up in a diverse musical environment with a appreciation for every genre, but that's really what the hardcore gamer as a salesman needs to be like.

They shouldn't sit there and be about what they like, but what they games they can take to nudge the customer to becoming a fan of something else.

But boobs and a pretty face obviously get repeat customers, too.
dragracedude's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 14:10
dragracedude
My gamestop is the opposite. friendly and unbiased.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 14:10
Xzyliac
Seriously why hasn't everybody switched to amazon by now?

Aside from not having credit or check cards I've learned that som people, no matter what you do, just prefer spending more money at wherever they're comfortable shopping.
Piellar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 14:27
Piellar
Seriously why hasn't everybody switched to amazon by now?

I don't like shopping for clothes, but one thing I really enjoy is manipulating the boxes of new releases in a video game store, have a chat with the clerk about a game, etc. It's a bit of an experience in addition to being just "a place you can buy games". It's like going into a bookstore and browse through the shelves, it's much more satisfying then e-shopping, IMO.


@The Silent Protagonist:

Your last comment rings very true... I guess it depends hugely on the clerk's personality. Talking on this blog made me remember when I bought my PS3. The clerk mentionned that I would have a better experience on the 360, that he and his friends had one and that it was a lot of fun and was always looking for more buddies to play online, etc. He continued with the usual "better games" (probably refering to shooters but he didn't precise), "less costy", etc.

I just told him I wasn't interested in FPSes and wanted to get MGS4 and was looking forward to the JRPG releases during the next years, and that kindof shut him up since I showed I knew what I wanted. But I didn't really appreciate the very partial opinions he expressed... are some of these clerks missionaries hired by Sony/Microsoft? Seriously...
FatherChesz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 14:43
FatherChesz
The GameStop in my neck o' the woods has the token attractive female. Always clad in the requisite gamer garb, and with more cleavage exposed than your average JRPG character. She is probably the most clever employee I've happened across, and her technique is unmatched.

1) Friendly greeting and draws your attention.
2) BOOBS.
3) Coherent gaming convers-
4) BOOBS.
5) ation. Would you like to reserve something?
6) BOOBS.
7) Well that's great. My fiance is really looking forward to that game, too.Bye!

Diabolical.
Piellar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 14:50
Piellar
Female clerk uses BOOBS on FatherChesz!
It's very effective!
FatherChesz faints!

Female clerk uses BOOBS on Piellar!
It's not very effective...

Hee-hee ^^
FatherChesz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 15:11
FatherChesz
@Piellar: I can't help that I was born a Man element. I guess I need to bring a more rounded party to battle next time...:P
FatherChesz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 15:50
FatherChesz
@brainderailment: I try not to remember the times I stopped sales that included such pearls of wisdom as: "Let's get you an HDMI cable for that Wii" or "Sure, PS3 games will work on the PS2. It just won't look as good." Or, my personal favorite, "Of course the PS3 will play HD-DVD's. It does everything, doesn't it?"
ghets's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 16:31
ghets
You should go back to that store and ask that clerk if they have Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga and count how many times she says "whats it called???"
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 16:32
Occams electric toothbrush
The Gamestop I go to is employed with nice, friendly people who can talk games and not beat me over the head with it. The Gamestop 6 miles away is employed by a barrel full of cunts. /balance
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 17:20
Hiltz
That reminds me of when I went to my local Gamestop a couple of years ago when I bought a used copy of Beyond Good & Evil.

It was really the only negative experience I've had there but it was pretty ridiculous. I found a used copy of BG&E for GameCube on sale for $10 so I picked it up and brought it over to the cashier. I payed and walked out and as I left the store I opened the game case to discover that the disc was missing.

I went back to the store and gave them my receipt and they took the game case from me and went into the backroom to find the disc. I left the store, opened the game disc and what did I find it in ? A PS2 version of BG&E. Once again, I went back into the store and told the employee the problem. Once again, he took the game case and went into the backroom. He came out and said that they didn't have any used copies for GC version left in stock. So he gave me a refund and as I began to walk out of the store, the employee said that he found one last copy of the game that was misplaced underneath the store's cashier's counter. I walked back up to the employee and I took out my money to pay for the game.

Then another problem. It turns out that the game was a new copy so the employee said he couldn't sell me it at the same price. Then he looked underneath the cashier's counter top and found the right used copy.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 17:30
Aurain
Xyliac likes Iron Maiden!?
You're permanently forgiven for your La Roux loving.


They do go for looks in the Game stores too.
There are a couple of girls in my local Game who I would fuck hard and long.
They're dumb as a post though. I'd probably get sacked from my local Game for not pushing games on to people, for knowing about and having a passion for games, and for being fucking ugly.
the7k's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 19:04
the7k
I remember back when I was in High School, the Electronics Boutique (Yes, back when EB was still around, and back when it was still referred to by it's full name) have an employee that was clearly only there for her boobs. Ticked me off.

Anyway, I'm working at a GameStop now, and I can tell you that even though I am fairly on-the-ball... there is a cardboard stand for Metro 2033. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT METRO 2033 IS. NONE.

Of course, this is pretty different from not knowing Mass Effect 2, but still.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 19:44
Daxelman
Nope. Normal chics at my GS.

Funny, when I walk in, one of the store clerks automatically gives me the "No, we still don't have any copies of Persona 3 or 4, and no used copies of Sonic Unleashed, " look.

Dai iz mah homiez...I think...
Ubersuntzu's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 21:01
Ubersuntzu
I think you have unrealistic expectations from retail shops and their employees. Good service would not be hiring only people that have a great deal of personal knowledge on gaming and related news. Good service would be providing resources employees can use to look up answers for your questions, and hiring employees that are willing to use those resources.
Ubersuntzu's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 21:02
Ubersuntzu
*unrealistic expectations FOR retail shops
Jonathan Ross's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 21:54
Jonathan Ross
Amazon 4 life.
LegendPenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 22:48
LegendPenguin
The shop I go to actually kinda feels welcome whenever I walk in. I don't have the latest shit shoved under my nose, and the conversations aren't bad.

The only bad experience I've had was when I picked up Brawl at the midnight gig. The dude (who I'm sure inhaled 5 grande lattes with 5 shots of cocaine each) started spitting random pre-orders of Wii games in my face with the excited qualities of a toddler doing the damn pee-pee dance. I just said no and left; haven't seen him since.
Gamernerd101's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/14/2010 23:18
Gamernerd101
I once had a person mock me for buying Okami for the Wii... Now as for your problem my G/F recently had been hired for a job at Gamestop seasonal of course. The reason being she may not have known much but had many of people ask questions she did to answer to simply bash someone for not knowing of a game you want is simply pathetic and undermining. It's business to avoid seeming sexist they hire one girl and the rest either somewhat knowledgeable or just hardworking males. It's not a big deal it's capitalism at it's finest deal with it or just buy somewhere else...
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2010 03:14
Tarvu
My hometown Game in Evesham had knowledgable gamers in it and the ones here in Guildford seem to also. It's good being able to get video game banter going and must lift the bordom for them of telling people where the nintendo platform shovelware is.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2010 11:43
Holyetheline
I mostly just order from Amazon. The chick was probably hired based off of her cup size.
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