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Can PAL just die and go away now please?
soul3150 | 6:48 PM on 02.25.2008 14 comments


I'll start this off by saying that I know little of the nuts and bolts of screens and definitions etc. When my more tech savvy friends start with their hd-1080p-whatever-the-fuck talk I tend to space out and think about butterflies and how they should be called flutterby's and how they will bring doom to us all.

The little I do know stretches about as far as knowing that PAL sucks filthy pleb dick for booze money. I may be mistaken, and if I am please feel free to correct me (I can't be arsed researching it), but NTSC display is meant to be better in the first place. But fine, Europe (and that still, mystifyingly, includes Australia) had a different system from the get go, sure, great, whatever.

That was fine a whiles back when all we got here were PAL tv's, but these days every goddamn one has NTSC support, even the shitty cheap one I recently bought.

Which brings me to my question of WHY IN THE MOTHERFUCKING HELL are games still zoned to PAL when they could all be bloody NTSC and I wouldn't have to wait for goddamn Smash Brothers. PAL is gone it lost the...whatever-the-fuck war and NTSC is king and we can all play games for it.

But no, now I gotta wait longer while the NTSC region gets it and starts playing which'll suck cause then they'll have a load of practise in and by the time I take my Wii out for some well supervised online fun I'll be getting bitchslapped back and forth by some bastard 13 year old American kid. And he'll probably have a bunch of stupid net acronyms as his little comment things and he'll tease me so at my lack of skills and I'll say I've only just got it and he will simply mock me further. God I hate him. Goddamn PAL bullshit. Fucking flutterby's.



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Fadakar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2008 19:08
Fadakar
Possibly it's just for localization for other European countries? Like French, German, Swedish, Finnish, etc.?
commish's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2008 19:13
commish
you can easily throw all the languages on an NTSC disc, blame the higher video game gods on your pain
IceMax's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2008 19:22
IceMax
I think part of the problem is you being misinformed :p. The reason why games usually come out later in Europe and Australia (aka the PAL Regions) has very little with the technical differences between NTSC and PAL (which are tlevision broadcast standards.) the major reason has to do with localization of the games into multiple languages and cultural differences.

PAL actually isnt bad, and in some ways is better than NTSC, mostly in the aspect of color reproduction in TV broadcasts. NTSC is also a much much older system than PAL is. Also, both standards are analog signals. There are two new systems for digital broadcasting, which are much different than NTSC and PAL (ATSC for North America and DVB for nearly the rest of the world.)
IceMax's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2008 19:23
IceMax
Also, hate region locking, not TV standards ;).
soul3150's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2008 19:28
soul3150
I know about the language thing, but A: the countries that require the language should have to wait and B: everyone should submit to english as the new Earthspeak and be done with it.

It's interesting to hear about the new digital standards but it is baffling that there is going to be two as opposed to a global standard.

And I do so loathe region locking.
IceMax's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2008 19:43
IceMax
From a business standpoint, it would be rather dumb to release a game in one country in Europe then release it in other countrie s at a later time, since people could easily import the game from a neighboring country, thus leading to lower sales when the game is released in that country. Therefore, they USUALLY (there are a few exceptions) release games in all of Europe at the same time. Most of the time is a game is not released in a certain country in Europe it is because it may not be rated for that country or licensed to be sold there. Another reason why games take longer to be released there :).
Scape's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2008 19:57
Scape
If I lived anywhere outside the US I would import all video game related material.
JonDarkwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/25/2008 20:18
JonDarkwood
If I lived in Europe, being shafted by the gaming industry all the time would probably make me mad enough to stop playing games altogether.
glipe's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2008 07:09
glipe
I'm feeling free to correct you, as per your orders. NTSC is worse than PAL. Its nickname going through engineering was "Never The Same Colour". The big clincher is NTSC having to have tint control as a manually adjusted system. PAL automatically gives you the correct colour broadcast. Hell, NTSC even changes colour depending on the weather conditions and traffic over in Japan sometimes!

At least the same proportion of the world uses PAL than any other format (let's just not talk about SECAM. Just... no.) so if the world was going to change formats, I'd definitely suggest changing to the better one.

Not that most TVs can't do both now anyway. And the signals that come in are mostly digital now (and will be fully digital sooner than I care to think). And that the game zoning has nothing to do with either of these things. Eh, what was I saying again?
marco75's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/27/2008 08:58
marco75
NTSC = Never Twice Same Color

PAL has more horizontal lines than NTSC, hence a higher resolution and a better picture overall.

There was never a format war between NTSC and PAL, as there had been between Betamax and VHS, or Blueray and HD-DVD.

Most console games are developed in NTSC territories, and rather than reprogramming the graphics engine to expand the view to PAL, they simply leave black bars at the top and bottom of the screen, and drop the framerate from 60 Hz to 50 Hz, so the game runs slower as well.

Since the PS2 and XBox, most PAL releases allow you to run in PAL-60 mode, which will use the entire screen... which can look bad with pixel based art (2D graphics) but looks fine with 3D graphics.

NTSC is NOT intrinsically better than PAL; have look at a high definition TV or a computer monitor, then look at a television -- you will realize the only reason PAL/NTSC are still around is because they are so cheap;

For the record, I can't afford a big-screen HDTV either... it's still a $4000 ticket to get in.

None of the people in my family do either, and they all have their own homes and full-time jobs.

I don't know what I will do when the new Hi-Def Street Fighters come out... :-(
njsykora's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/09/2008 13:39
njsykora
Yeah, region locking is the issue here. Not TV standards. Get a region free DVD player and it'll play US DVDs fine. Same goes for a console. Get a 360 or PS3 title without region locking and it'll play fine no matter what TV its on.
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