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Seven hundred choices carry from Mass Effect 1 to 2!
randombullseye | 10:47 AM on 03.15.2010 23 comments




Did you import your original save from Mass Effect into the sequel? If you did, there are over 700 unique player choices and plot points carried over! Holy smokes!

Armando Troisi, Bioware lead cinematic designer, during a GDC speech showed a scene near a hologram display that played a trailer for a movie based on the first game. This alone had two choices change it, based on gender and the council ending choice. This means that four separate things in Mass Effect 2 were changed from those choices just for this scene. This scene wasn't even a big thing either! How did they ever make a game dependent on so many variables!

The third game still looming and keeping the import character feature, I know I am looking forward to seeing what they do with all the choices from two games!

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Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 12:50
Blasto
I freaking love the Mass Effect series and can't wait for the conclusion. This really puts the ambition of the design team and the challenges they faced into perspective, as well as the overall effort required to make it so awesome. I think a lot of that goes over people's heads, even if they love the game. It's pretty amazing.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 13:05
Chris Carter
I like Dragon Age better, but both series contain "9.5-10" games for me. I just love Bioware in general.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 13:07
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I also literally noticed nothing from the first game that carried over, except for seeing Kadan for like 30 seconds, and hearing about (but not actually seeing) the council for like 30 seconds. Everything else was barely noticeable, imo.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 13:07
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I can't wait for the third game. Especially considering some of the implications made throughout the second game. It will be a great finish to a fantastic series.
Guncannon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 13:28
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Since I'm lazy, I'll copy-paste what I wrote in the forums last week:

"ME3 might prove disappointing to those who think that every action they performed in the first two games will come together to affect the main plot of the final game.

In ME2, most of the connections to the first game had no effect on the main story; for the most part it only changed a bit a dialogue in a scene, or affected who made a cameo (Ashley vs. Kaiden). The worst part was that your big choice at the end of ME1, whether to save the council or let humanity take control, almost seemed to be ignored outside a few lines of dialogue, and otherwise seemed to have reverted to the status quo of the first game. Of course, they could always be saving the ramifications of this decision for ME3, but consider how much effort it would take to create a truly branching path coming from it.

Branching paths is really the problem. By spreading it out over multiple titles, Bioware has the benefit of providing many chances to "change" the narrative, but also has to deal with restricting how divergent the narrative gets. For example, will saving the Rachni provide a meaningful effect to the narrative, or simply increase/decrease some variable affecting some event in ME3 (like "you now have 5 minutes, instead of 4 to save the universe" or "you get Rachni armor tech that provides +1 defence")? Also, they are restricted in that ME3 still has to be a standalone game, so they can't say to the player "Sorry, you can't unlock the best ending unless you do X in ME1 and Y in ME2." The parts of the game that will be "locked" to players who haven't played the first two games might be a piece of dialogue here, a character cameo there, but there shouldn't be entire cutscenes or branches of the game that are dependent on purchasing two other games. Of course, if Bioware were to put in a section at the start of ME3 where the player could make all the critical choices they would have done if they had imported a ME2 save, they wouldn't have to deal with this issue.

To put what I'm saying in a metaphor, rather than thinking of the ME trilogy as the roots of a tree, which continue to spread and diversify until there hundreds of endpoints, think of it as the branches of the tree, which similarly spread out, but are pruned once in a while (i.e., between each game) to keep things simple and organized. "
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 13:39
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@ Mag: Nothing? What about the Rachni queen messenger or Wrex, to name just a couple? You can't expect everything to have huge implications surely, that's just not realistic. But there are tons of little things that are in there, whether or not you appreciate them is a different matter.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2010 13:48
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The Rachni thing alone has me pretty excited about what could happen in 3. I'm hoping they go all out and have whole branches that people may never witness like Guncannon states. Just go all out, make it a 4 hour game and give away coupons/easy modes of ME1 and ME2 so you can game the system.
neeha's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/29/2010 08:26
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By spreading it out over multiple titles, Bioware has the benefit of providing many chances to "change" the narrative, but also has to deal with restricting how divergent the narrative gets.

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ipadshouse's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/19/2010 08:31
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markbenaldo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/28/2010 02:31
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