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The issue of being similar (Saints Row and GTA)
rabidkeebler | 1:14 PM on 08.04.2008 6 comments


Now, I’ve been a big fan of gaming for a long time. My tastes generally don’t discriminate unless it is to support my idea of gaming (such as my limited purchase of EA games). Lately, I have been very excited for Saints Row 2 (publisher THQ).

For those that do not know, Saints Row 2 is a direct sequel to Saints Row, for the Xbox 360. The game followed your created nameless character as they started as a low level street thug and grew the gang they joined (Saints Row) into the biggest gang in Stillwater. Not the most original game in the world I know. It ripped of GTA in terms of gang sandbox style game play, tried to be gansta (not gangster), and its comedy styling was that of a sledge hammer to the face (The name of the fast food chain was “Freckle” and term for female dog).

But for all its ham and cheesy-ness, it had some surprisingly good qualities as well. As one of the first sandboxes on the 360, it contained some beautiful graphics, far beyond the traditional crapola of the time. It pegged the shooting controls for a game of its type, instead of using lock on like GTA, it allowed for free aiming with tight controls. It introduced GPS mapping into the mini map to help move around the city. A car garage that would hold something like 50 cars, and cars that were totaled or left would reappear in the garage so as to keep cool cars (instead of sitting on them like I would do in GTA). They also had an mp3 player for your character to carry.

With the next iteration of Saints Row, they are changing things up to help differentiate itself from GTA IV. GTA IV, while containing much of its humor, has gone the route of realistic and gritty. So Volition (developer of SR) is going the route of completely off the top antics. You select your characters gender based on a slider, not a switch. The various costumes you can wear are over the top (giant walking hotdog for instance). Some of the side missions you can do are hilarious (fun with sewage), and the weapons are getting interesting with new items like defibrillator paddles.

Now the problem is twofold. First, people are having problems coming to terms with what Volition is attempting to make, which is kinda understandable. The second, and the one that gets me confused, is the people going after it because it is a gangster sandbox. For the first one, it all depends on your cup of tea due to the story line/point of the game.

As for the other issue, I just don’t get it. I’m willing to be that most of these people who complain about Saints Row 2, are practitioners of their own complaint. More than likely they have more than one Space FPS. Or more than one survival horror. More than one fighter, or racing sim, or RPG, or RTS, or etc. In other words, they complain about a game that seems to be copying, and yet more than likely they have multiple copy cat type products sitting on their shelf.



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Mushman's Destructoid Blog
In overall terms, SR2 will never match the genius of the GTA franchise, the simple fact being Rockstar has one hell of a team that has, largely, stuck together from the first GTA. This helps massively when developing a new game, as the dev team knows each other inside out, and can accomodate everyones ideas. Also Rockstar has phenomenal mass appeal, as seen in the $300 mill sales of GTA4

However, like you said, SR does provide a different experience, though the new one has some of the least-effective marketing I have ever seen,(using a porn star, WTF IS THAT ABOUT??) it looks damn fun.

The worst thing about GTA4 was the lack of stuff to do in Single Player,I LOVE multiplayer, but I have'nt touched the SP mode in weeks. SR2 looks to correct that, which is good.

Like I said before, let's hope it is'nt a situation of style(or lack of) over substance for SR2. Though it looks fun, it seems that the game might suffer from too much silliness, and not a lot of long-lasting depth. Then again, SR2 seems to fit the OTT gap left by GTA4 and it's TEH SERIOUSNESS.

Nice write up man!
GoS-CPT-Stewart's Destructoid Blog
@Mushman

"Also Rockstar has phenomenal mass appeal, as seen in the $300 mill sales of GTA4 "

I can tell you that I'm part of that statistic, having bought the game day one, and I wish I wasn't. I still haven't finished the game due to extreme boredom. The only reason I'm as far as I am (about 6 or 7 missions from the end) is because of the game's achievements, but even then I can't bring myself to play it for more than an hour at a time.

I wish I could have my $60 dollars back.
AKK's Destructoid Blog
I agree with GOS, with the exception that I bought the game a week after it came out, and I'm not even halfway through the game.

It's so fucking boring.
Alexradl's Destructoid Blog
GOS-CPT-STEWART:

That was the general opinion of the internet about a week after the game (GTA IV) came out. I just don't get it. I've logged 50+ hours in the game and am still playing it. Not once did I get bored of the story/missions. I don't know, maybe it's just me.
RonBurgandy2010's Destructoid Blog
I am way more excited about SR2 than I was for GTA4. My first blog was actually a rant defending SR2 all the way back in April, so I am an early adapter. This game just looks like gaming nirvana, just stupid ass fun.

It looks like it could be like Pain, except it won't get old after a couple of hours. I couldn't stop laughing when I started playing Pain. I thought I was going to shit myself. The game is different from most games because it is easily the most immature and offensive game I have ever played. But that's what makes it fun, for a little while anyway.

But SR2 just looks like the kind of game that GTA used to be. Remember when you and your friends would pass the controller during GTA: San Andreas sessions, just killing people until you died. Good time, eh?

Saints Row 2 is the new Gran Theft Auto. There it is.
rabidkeebler's Destructoid Blog
To a certain extent, when GTA IV went serious, it lost something special. With GTA IV, the only character that I really loved was Brucie. I mean he was just crazy funny. You had plenty of those people in three previous incarnations (III, Vice City, San Andreas) of just goofy people you want to do missions for because they crack you up when you visit them.

I'm not saying Saints Row 2 will be better that GTA IV, but that it will still be freaking fun as hell. With the advertisements they are doing, it is an attempt to grab attention since it isn't GTA (with varying degrees of success). To a certain extent, I do agree about the GTA IV single player. I did beat the game, but it kinda felt hackneyed towards the end. I mean, why is money so important when there is nothing to buy. My favorite GTA title is still Vice City. You actually felt like you owned the city in the end (if you bought everything). You owned the night club, ice cream dealer, movie studio, boat storage, car dealer, etc. You ruled Vice City. You had the coke head jewish attorney on your side as well (loved that guy).


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