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Too Mammal Demo
pumpy | 12:28 AM on 07.15.2008 14 comments




Too Human is a different game from what we all expected. Maybe we did at this point, or some months before, but the previously highly-anticipated 360 game seems to be now officially crossed off that list. Where a facade of great style and graphics seem to mask gameplay.

Obvious reasons why this game isn't quite human:
3. Slow and strangely weird acting camera, sometimes does cool things but typically hinders the player and I think it is worse than Ninja Gaiden II's camera.

2. Battles seem to have no dynamics. The formula seems to be: fight off hordes of enemies, fight bosses who just stand in one place and do one attack, move through a door or two into a large/open area and repeat.

1. Terrible swordplay/combat (via analog stick). Maybe I'm spoiled recently by games such as Ninja Gaiden II and Devil May Cry 4, but I haven't been sold on analog stick combat yet in games. It is extremely sluggish, unresponsive and boring.

Too Human kills me inside as I am disappointed in Silicon Knights (especially after really enjoying Eternal Darkness). In one aspect, the game is a brilliant idea, executed perfectly in terms of design, art, presentation and style. Some moments were really cool, like the first moment an enemy appears and the camera shifts smoothly watching the player. But the gameplay lacks hard in real involvement and fun. I found everything so slow from the readjusting the camera to movement. While some basic movements seem to have been done right such as an effective roll and a heart pounding jump, the swordplay is downright hideous. I cant play through a game with so much depth and potential if the combat is ridden with inexcusable boredom. It doesn't seem like I will be picking this up after all.



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AfroJoel's Destructoid Blog
does the demo have multiplayer?
ZanyIce's Destructoid Blog
The demo doesn't have multiplayer. I thought the demo was pretty underwhelming. The game just wasn't fun. It took too long to navigate the confusing menu which is gonna be a big problem when having to equip loot every 2 minutes. Some parts looked graphically good while other parts looked horrible like the faces and some parts in the forest. Not something I'd buy.
GuitarAtomik's Destructoid Blog
Actually this was totally the game I was expecting. People have been trying to explain how this is NOT a game like DMC or Ninja Gaiden for months now (maybe a year) so I'm surprised that people are still going in thinking this. It has it's flaws (camera, too much menu time, etc) but I thought it was fun. Definitely buying it now.
pumpy's Destructoid Blog
I just dont know how the analog stick fighting can be fun. It bothered me a lot. And no I know they are supposed to be different games and I know that because of the various RPG elements that Too Human has, but if you make a game that is heavily rooted in moments of combat, there needs to be a degree of polish or fun to that aspect.
GuitarAtomik's Destructoid Blog
The stick combat is awkward at first but by the end of the demo I had the hang of it and was having fun with it. It's just a different feel than pretty much any other game. You also have to keep in mind that you're at a low level at this point and barely have access to stuff like the spiders or missiles and whatnot or have to to worry about status affects and enemies with resistances. Plus you're only given access to the Champion which is basically the most barbarian generic class out of all in the game.

I don't know. I'll be the first to admit the game isn't for everyone but I think people are overreacting when they say it outright sucks.
B-Radicate's Destructoid Blog
I don't get what people thought was difficult to understand about the menu system. You simply scroll up or down with the analog stick on the main portion and then once inside a menu you use the analog stick and the triggers to navigate throughout, which is pretty much the exact same fucking thing as most other 360 in-game menus (RSV2 comes to mind). It may look like a wheel, but it operates like a list. It took me 5 seconds to figure it out.

Also, the analog stick fighting got a little stale during the demo for me, too. Holding the thing in one direction so I slid around the floor was kinda boring. I kept thinking different taps and such would give me different attacks but I didn't see anything different happen.

I think the combat would be more satisfying if the analog stick simply directed where you attacked (like in front, to the right, behind you) but you still had to navigate to the enemies on your own with the left stick. That way you'd be running around on your own accord swinging your weapons all over the place kicking some ass. Not sliding on the floor without a run animation.
gingerbreadben's Destructoid Blog
Guitaratomik described exactly how I feel about this game.
thefil's Destructoid Blog
The game feels like a little Diablo, a little Devil May Cry. Holding the analog stick = tapping your mouse button in Diablo. Tapping, swinging or using both sticks in conjunction gives you some of the more advanced Devil May Cry stuff. I recommend anyone who hasn't check out the advanced combat section of the menu.
Hoygeit's Destructoid Blog
I enjoyed it as it reminded me of Diablo and Hellgate: London. There are enough rough edges though that I can understand where you’re coming from.
Doctor Payne's Destructoid Blog
I thought the game was pretty much balls. A couple of other things that didn't make it onto Denis Dyack's checklist over the course of the last 10 years:

- camera angles/character models that don't make it look like you're controlling a G.I. Joe
-a walking animation in which the character doesn't have a hamster up his asshole
-dialogue that isn't comprised completely of cliches (seriously, that "today is a good day to die" dude sounded like he was a Klingon or some shit
-remotely convincing voice actors
-aiming animations that don't make me NOTICE THE FUCKING AIMING ANIMATIONS
-fun

I guess it's picky to complain about animations, but after playing MGS 4, most of that stuff just looks unacceptable. Also, eveyone compares this to Diablo... but the animation in Diablo II is BEAUTIFUL, especially compared to this stuff. I really think that this game is a disaster, at least from what I've played.
pumpy's Destructoid Blog
Yeah like I said, I think this game is balls...but the combat just ruins it all. I mean if you go with the analog stick route for the sword mapping then it should just be fluid with no stops allowing you to continuing chaining attacks and spinning around rather than being like a stiff piece of wood. One would think an analog stick here would give you a full 360 range of motion to play with, but in Too Human it doesn't and I think that this flaw really hurts the game.
king3vbo's Destructoid Blog
I went into Too Human expecting utter shit.

I finished the demo, and decided I want it. Not because the game is OMG PONIES, but it is a lot of fun, and I love GRINDAN LOOTAN games
JynxShot's Destructoid Blog
My expectations for the game have come down in recent times, so I went into the demo expecting to be disappointed. I actually really got a kick out of it.

Of course it's no Ninja Gaiden or DMC, but the combat isn't unbearable, and while the camera sometimes goes the wrong way, the whole "slide-->attack" mechanic keeps that from being a problem for me.

I may not buy the game right at launch, I maywait for a price drop, but I enjoyed it.
On the other hand though, Fable 2 is going to stomp it, and then Fallout 3 will stomp Fable 2. C'est la vie.
TheDreadHawk's Destructoid Blog
I have mixed feelings about Too Human. I can't quite make a decision just yet.


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Hey, I'm Eric. I inherited the nickname "Pumpy" from never wanting to stop pumping quarters into arcade cabinets of practically any game back in the day. I've started playing games ever since my grandfather bestowed me with an NES from his brother's video rental store back in the early days. Ever since then I was hooked on glowing pixelated screens and free rentals. I grew up mainly playing SNES and it gave me a base for what I enjoy today. Although I love 2D dearly, I feel as though the newest gen systems have finally mastered 3D and recently I've been enjoying my 360 and the possibilities it has to offer. I'm not really into Halo because a man in a metal suit fighting aliens seems a bit weak in comparison say to a Resident Evil game (it's just not a game that gets me amped). I'll read game mags in practically any situation and my DS is always on the bathroom sink because when I'm not gaming, I probably wish was.

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