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Fox News finds the Mass Effect controversy- Thank You Geoff
power-glove | 9:18 PM on 01.21.2008 46 comments



Credit goes to Geoff for defending us in an intelligent manner from the usual mainstream media stupidity.
There aren't enough facepalms in the world to describe how I feel about this segment.
Why do we keeping getting silenced like this?
Edit:
What a double standard.



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Sam Spectre's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 21:28
Sam Spectre
He did a great job though trying to correct the false ideas people have about Mass Effect.
Atlas's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 21:32
Atlas
Kudo's to Geoff, the rest were sensationalist, ignorant, etc, must I go on?
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 21:36
AngelsDontBurn
Major kudos to Geoff!
taumpytears's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 21:41
taumpytears
Geez! That psychologist woman is a bit crabby.
Virtualgirl's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 21:44
Virtualgirl
I hate people...All but Geoff were talking out of their asses. I am so sick of people talking about things they don't even try to understand...
Virtualgirl's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 21:44
Virtualgirl
I hate people...All but Geoff were talking out of their asses. I am so sick of people talking about things they don't even try to understand...
Krayven's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 21:45
Krayven
Someone needs to punch that chick that was arguing with Geoff in the face.. hard.
enfaw's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 21:47
enfaw
RRRGGGRRRAAAAAAAAHHH!
viralhunter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 21:55
viralhunter
Geoff did do a good job. But still, if he just mentioned that the sex scene only occurs after wooing the woman over the course of the entire 30 hours leading up to the game, making you work to win her love, he would have completely destroyed the psychologist's remarks that it makes kids think women are objects.
And that "Sci-Fi doesn't need sex" comment makes me sick.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 21:58
Wedge
We have nobody to blame but ourselves. He was just some pissant backwater blogger before that.
Cameron300ZXTT's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:01
Cameron300ZXTT
One thing I'd like to mention is that the developmental psychologist "professional" can say darling to him in a condescending manner and she had just finished talking about how men were more likely to objectify women after playing this game.

Had Geoff said darling to her, it would have been a shitstorm.

Also, she admitted she has never played Mass Effect. Thus one can logically discern that a woman who has never played Mass Effect is more likely to objectify a man, while a Man that has played Mass Effect is less likely to objectify a woman. I think I need some random university to do a study on this, please!

Fox news sucks, but this is the case with all news I'm afraid. A news station my brother worked for reported he had been driving under the influence when he wrecked his car, however toxicology reports showed and proved otherwise.

Ironically, it was a Fox affiliate.

Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.
JimmyDelicious's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:07
JimmyDelicious
I'll just go ahead and point this link out now:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314541,00.html

yeah... 3.5 out of 5
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:15
Knivy
-At the end of the day, it's like Geoff said: It's up to parents to control what their kids are seeing.

-It is, unfortunately.

I faceloledpalmed.
slee's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:16
slee
Geoff GREAT JOB every one else research!!!!!!!! YOUR!!!!!!!!NEWS Stories!!!!!!!!! Stupid soccer moms with more time on there hands then they need!!
Maldom's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:21
Maldom
It's too bad that Fox cut him off because he was too right, got to love slanted news. Fox should stick to denying global warming.
MarginalMeaning's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:22
MarginalMeaning
You see the thing that pisses me off the most is the fact that they are saying so many bullshit things about the game, then going on to say that they have to *gasp!* actually keep track of what their kids are doing... wait a second, aren't they already supposed to be doing that?

Also, "Luke Skywalker does Debbie Does Dallas" what the hell.

Also, "What happened to atari, and pinball, and pac man?" What happened to common sense?

Also, about the parental controls, etc. Maybe if they TRIED using the xbox or reading the manual, or trying ANYTHING, they could figure it out. If they are so outraged and pissed about this kind of stuff, and they know there's controls on the system itself, why not actually TRY to use the controls instead of complaining that they shouldn't have to actually pay attention to what their kids are doing.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:27
BS3 Owner
Fox News is a bunch of Paparazzi type reporters.

Who over dramatize anything & Everything anyways... Or get so lost in their own minds coming up with ubsurd justifications to propel the dialog to the next level. @ wich point the guest speaker in their offices or affiliated newsroom. Proceeds to run all over the good guy.

Watch CNN.

: P
snr yoda's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:30
snr yoda
There's nudity in Mass Effect?!?!?!? When did this happen?
power-glove's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:35
power-glove
"people want to be spoon fed and told what to do and they find comfort in not being responsible"
Quoted for truth
ceark's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:35
ceark
last I checked, the rating was on the front the god damn box idiots. And consoles have PARENTAL controls, something stardard TV doesn't even have unless it's digital cable. And Fox? you guys play way more fucked up shit in your TV shows then some mild nudity.

idiots. fucking fail.
crackity jones's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:39
crackity jones
theres boobies in games O.o
Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:41
Puppy Licks
"Whatever happened to atari and pacman?"
My god woman! Has your head been under a rock for the last 25 years??

Mass Effect has as much hardcore porn in it as The Matrix Reloaded did, but I didn't hear the locals crying to grab the torches and pitchforks when that was about. This is fearmongering lowest-common-denominator propaganda at it's best.

Welcome to the 21st century witch hunt.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:45
Tubatic
Also, the ratings are on the front of the box.

Also, parental controls, if properly set up, will lock out M rated games from play.

Also, get lockbox for your Mature games if it means that much to you.

Also, can game companies hire their own advocates for these things. I find it rather disturbing that the media creator and distributors don't have either their own PR representatives to step in and debunk these things and even still, there's no representative from the ESRB or any industry standards association standing up and setting things straight in some capacity, leaving the front guard to the journalists, who assign their own passion to an arguement, and are forced to fight that passion in these heated situations.

grr.
Skribble's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 22:48
Skribble
Fuck, the video has buffered about 1 minutes and I'm already pissed off at that woman. Just look at the way shes acting, so smug, like she knows everything.

"Look at the statistics. Who is playing video games but adolescent males. Not their dads."

Ok I will look at the statistics.......

Oh whats this? According to the ESA the average gamer is 33!
The average age of the most frequent game buyer is 38 years old. In 2007, 92 percent of computer game buyers and 80 percent of console game buyers were over the age of 18.

Thirty-eight percent of all game players are women. In fact, women over the age of 18 represent a significantly greater portion of the game-playing population (31%) than boys age 17 or younger (20%).

You stupid fuck. Don't base your falsified argument on statistics from over a decade ago. Learn something before you open your big mouth.

This whole thing just wreaks of the patented FOX cover-up-the-truth-for-ratings report. They let Geoff say like 2 sentences and then cut him off and talk over him. It's totally fucked.
Justin Villasenor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 23:05
Justin Villasenor
Watching this video has seriously depressed me.
Macca's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 23:12
Macca
It doesn't surprise me that she was having a hard time finding the rating on the back of the box. She'd probably have the same trouble trying to order a Big Mac at KFC
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 23:12
vexed alex
"But you have to pick up the box and look at the back for the rating and then..you have to be involved in what your kids are looking at."

GOD-FOR-FUCKING BID YOU HAVE TO BE INVOLVED WITH YOUR CHILD'S LIFE! These people are morons. And the Black woman says that it's dangerous to have games like that in the house because a kid is going to say "I'm going to play my dad's video games." Did she not read Microsoft's statement about parental controls? Is she an idiot?

I'm just FUCKING tired of these things because no one gets to have a word in the topic. Anything that's worth listening to, anyway. What's the point? What's the point if you're going to have these right-wing dip shits have more time to spew out their ignorant word vomit? Geoff did not get the time he deserved to talk about the topic.

There has to be some major news cooperation that has some intelligent and lengthy discussion about this.'

"I'm surprised that this game wasn't rated AO."

FOR SHOWING A FUCKING SIDEBOOB AND AN ASSCRACK!? If that's the case, you dumb cunt, then we should have any movie with a sex scene be rated X.
Bus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 23:16
Bus
I am actually blown away by Geoff's eloquence and poise. From watching him on G4tv, I never thought he was up to that level of debate.
power-glove's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 23:19
power-glove
Does anyone think that this is an attempt to try derail the emergence of video games as a prominent force in media, despite the fact that it already is.
I can't help but think that this is an attempt to force video games into a hole, si that their forms of media can gain back the conumers that they have lost due to video game industry.
yingfo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 23:22
yingfo
I give Geoff alot of credit for this interview.
Cause I would of went off on Ms. "Darling"
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 23:34
Wedge
Lol new pic is awesome.
ZeroTolo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 23:38
ZeroTolo
Wow.... what a great excuse for a "panel". Fox News probably considers this they're "young and hip" string of anchors.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 23:42
wardrox
one word: fucksake.
LordRegulus's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/21/2008 23:57
LordRegulus
And then people have the nerve to wonder why game designers constantly bitch about not being taken seriously.

Every time you see a mainstream network interview a prominent game industry figure, watch their tactics carefully. You'd think they're deliberately trying to piss the poor guy off, just to get a rise out of him so they can use his temper to discredit his arguments.

I'm glad they're not interviewing me. I'd fucking lose it.
LusciousRichard's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 00:58
LusciousRichard
This made me so angry that I actually had to stop it halfway through just to clench my jaw and repeat the word "hate" for a minute. Seems like all Fox segments make me feel that way these days.
NicoW's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 05:13
NicoW
In the UK, Mass effect got a 12 rating.

The details from the BBFC website (British Board of Flim Classification)-
MASS EFFECT is a role playing game and shooter set in the future in space. The player controls either a male or female American soldier through a long and involved story line, making choices along the way. The game has been classified at '12' for moderate violence and one sex scene.

The violence is undetailed and takes place in a futuristic setting. The single sex scene is brief and undetailed, although there is breast nudity in one version of the scene. The sex scene is triggered by the player making a series of choices about becoming more than friends with a colleague. If playing as a male character the scene can take place between him and a human woman or a humanoid female alien. If playing as a female character the scene can take place between her and a male human or a female humanoid alien.

The game also contains use of the word 'bastard' and at least one aggressive use of the word 'bitch'. Both of which are acceptable under BBFC Guidelines at '12'.

that puts it in the same category as:

The Queen
The Da Vinci Code
Harry Potter: TGOF - ffs
and of course everyones favourite PS3 title - Talladega Nights.

I'm struggling hard not to end this post with some flippant caustic sarcasm, but the whole thing is too depressing.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 08:33
covah
I hate fox news... I hate it sooooooo much. That typical conservative republican bitch (or various ones) they have talking, never actually knows anything about what they're talking about. Geoff did a great job of saying how she was completely incorrect, how there is not full nudity, how you can play as a woman and have sex with a man, and how its not just like "have sex"

fuck fox news
Hitogoroshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 08:37
Hitogoroshi
Big ups to Geoff. I wish he had more time to defend it.
Evo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 08:48
Evo
I laughed :D

Well done to Geoff, shame he didn't have the time to defend the game properly
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 09:55
mistic
that blonde just made me puke...

such a 'flood' of evil that comes of the internet! i think a lot more filth streams from the tube without you being able to control it ( just turn on a random news-show...) while online you basicly decide yourself whether or not your watching filth...

generally being online gives me a better feeling about humanity then watching the news simply because when I check the news online, I also get to see all the 'good' news while on the TV-news I only see how crappy our humanity is :-p

same with Mass Effect, if you don't want to bother screwing the alien, you don't have too... Also I think its funny they say the game objectifies women, I mean I've put in WAY more effort into getting this alien into bed then some of the women I've screwed in real life :-)

real life women aren't so difficult :p
PsychoSoldier's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 10:47
PsychoSoldier
So violence in videogames desensitizes from real life violence, hmm I wonder whats more graphic Saw 4 or Mass Efect?
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