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The earliest memory of me and gaming was when I saw my father sitting at the computer playing King's Quest I. He had this extreme level of dedication to that game with hand drawn maps, personal notes, and hints from friends littering the desk. It was also my first foray in typing. Unlike the other kids at school who learned to type on Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing, I learned from video games.

These days I'm extremely busy with school and try to fit in at least an hour every night. I try finding other gamers in situations like mine who enjoy gaming but don't have the time for those 20+ sessions.

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Self Improvement Center 01: Virtua Fighter 5 Online
phamtq | 2:02 PM on 03.02.2008 7 comments




I came into this kicking and screaming. There was something about the way the
characters would, or rather wouldn’t, respond to my requests. Like a stubborn child my
character thought that it knew more than me and ultimately failed. I guess this is what
feeling old is like.

I grew up playing a lot of 2D fighting games and when the 3D ones came out I thought
the golden age of fighting games had arrived. But reality soon set in and I found myself
playing as if I had a fist full of thumbs. The characters wouldn’t block when I wanted.
The moves were too slow. Too slow! To think, my addled mind was too fast for a
fighting game.

So I stopped playing them. Occasionally I’d dip back into it maybe because I still had
some hope but in general, the 3D Fighting genre wasn’t really all that great for me.
Time past and I felt like I hadn’t really given the genre a fair and honest shake. So I
decided instead of just picking and playing the games, I would actually try to learn it. I
was already renewing my interest in fighting games, so I figured, “What the hey. Why
not?”

Virtua Fighter 5 Online (X360)

I picked this game because I figure if I can get a handle on this game, all the other
shouldn’t be much harder (easier if anything). My favorite character in the series has
always been Shun Di. He’s got style that can get so off the wall that it looks funs to play
and watch. A lot of people say that’s a horrible choice to make when you start out but
I’m in it for the long run so here’s a good a place to start as any.



Let me run down what I know and some questions I have:

- I’ve read the “5 STEPS to Memorize – An Introduction to Virtua Fighter’s Game
System” and understand Steps 1 & 2 but from 3 on it gets a little hazy.

- There are soo many moves! I’m so used to having only a small handful of moves and
utilizing that. The command list for Shun Di, hell for any character, is overwhelming. If
you had to choose only 3 moves (High, Mid, Low), which would you pick?

- Why don’t some moves come out? I have the game display my inputs and it shows
that I’m pressing the right buttons but I get nothing.

- What’s the key to good blocking or defense in general? This is going to sound weird
but Prince of Persia Classic seems to help train my reactions.

So far I’ve reached 5th Dan on Quest mode but those 6th Dan are really making me
think about how I’m fighting. I can win about 1 match out of every 3 I play against
them.

So, any hints, suggestions, or comments?



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7 comments | showing # 1 to 7
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Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2008 14:50
Gameboi
Wish I could help, but the closest I ever came to being good at a fighting game was Mortal Kombat at the arcades, back in the day.
phamtq's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2008 14:52
phamtq
Oddly, the moves for Virtua Fighter remind me of Mortal Kombat's move list. Instead of the charge backs and circular moves of a Street Fighter, you had more of a tap-tap style of moves.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2008 14:58
Wedge
Virtua Figher is heavily context sensitive in it's combat, so that's why some of the moves "aren't working". Also that's why I hate it, and 3d fighters in general. There are still plenty of good 2d ones made and being made, so I don't see any reason to play 3d ones.
Milofo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2008 15:33
Milofo
Well if you're using Shun Di then I would suggest you try and find as many ways as possible to get your drinks in. Also if you are a Shun Di user your main strategy should be to confuse our opponent. I could go into detail about which moves I use and such but that would be to long for a post here.
WDot's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2008 15:58
WDot
I'm not an expert, but honestly you probably shouldn't try to memorize every move starting out, if ever. Some Virtua Fighter moves are heavily dependent on the situation (for example, running up and backflipping off a wall is probably not a priority move to learn for a beginner). Just learn enough moves so that you become unpredictable. Also, definitely learn techniques like blocking, dodging, recovering, and escaping throws. Those will help you more than impressive memorization. If VF5 has as deep a training mode as VF4: Evo did, you can pick up the techniques there without even consulting a guide.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2008 16:49
Y0j1mb0
I live and breathe VF5. I have it for the PS3, but evrything about it is the same except the some of the AI on Quest Mode. AI you need not worry about..blocking and counter attacking you do.

The best block in VF5 is the one you don't use. Like in real life it's about spacing. It's better to quickly dash back then it is to block because you can counter attack faster from a backwards dash than a normal block.

Don't think in 2-D. This isn't SF. Move up on your stick so your character is constantly strafing.Most characters have even more moves coming from the angles as well.

I can keep on..I'll tell you what I might post a blog about this soon.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2008 17:59
Kyousuke Nanbu
Don't bother unless you want dedicate hours and hours into a single game, some amazing tourney level players enjoy VF5 and they'll decimate you before you even do anything, keep in mind that these dudes have been playing VF since number 1 for the saturn.

Also, as you look through the move list you'll notice that a big chunk of moves are hugely similar, the only that differs is how you begin the move, Eileen has this problem, MASSIVE moveset yet maybe 8 are different moves.
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