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THE NEW DARK KNIGHT VILLAIN REVEALED (NVGR)
pendelton21 | 2:35 AM on 08.14.2008 52 comments


...ok, not really (maybe), but it's a really cool pic someone (maybe) shooped for the internets:



Now, as many of you probably know, I've already outlined who I think the next Batman villains might be. And he certainly isn't in that list. Why? First of all, way, way, WAY too similar to the Joker, especially the direction Nolan would take him. Secondly, a bit too cuetsy for the Nolan-verse of Batman movies. Could you really see someone going around, planting riddles for Batman to find and decipher, before committing big crimes? Plus, as many Batman aficionados know, he's not really a major villain of Batman's. Hell, he wasn't even a common character in the comics until a badass dude named Frank Gorshin made him wickedly awesome.

But, on the flip side...

I would actually enjoy seeing The Riddler as a villain because of what Nolan can do with him. As we all know, The Riddler is a genius. He's keen at making puzzles, creating grand schemes, etc. But, he's also obsessive compulsive. These riddles are part of that compulsion. In fact, as is made evident in one of his main story lines, The Riddler can't even commit a crime without leaving a riddle behind. Going into the depths of a character's madness is a common trait in the Nolan-verse, and one I'd like to see reoccur in the next Batman.

As for the picture, whether it's fake, or the work of a ninja who, I believe, would've literally had to crawl inside Chris Nolan's brain to dig out this information, you gotta admit, it's pretty cool.



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Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:11
Puppy Licks
You know I was expecting a joke or something when I read the heading, but fake or not that poster is fucking awesome. Nice find.
randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:12
randombullseye
Looks real enough to give me hope.


I hate hope.
Danl Haas's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:18
Danl Haas
Heard tell they want to get Johnny Depp to play Riddler, if they go that route. I'm for it.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:21
RAB
fuck riddler

where the fuck is a sexy ass well-casted HARLEY QUINN??

i dunno man..i dont really care to see ridler again after............
JayRock's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:22
JayRock
@Bullseye: I hate hope too. =/ It can go blow me.

Harvey Dent, come back from the dead plz? Kthnx.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:26
RAB
NO. NO DEPP FOR RIDDLER.

also, rumor has it that Angelina Jolie is trying really fucking hard to be CATWOMAN...



nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


no THANKS

she's fucking gorgeous..but not as cat woman.

plus depp?

it just feels..wrong.
randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:28
randombullseye
Batman Spoiler:







Ra's Al Ghoul is immortal. He could come back.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:34
RAB
@ randombullz

well that's a given

as for dent coming back, i definately think it's a posibility. villains "dying from falls" have the tendency to come back.

Especially considering i dont really remember seeing the coffin at the wake.
Desert Tokala's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:35
Desert Tokala
Hey did anyone notice how the article about Dent was written by Vicki Vale? Yanno the love interest from the first (not counting the Adam West one) Batman movie?
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:37
RAB
@ tokala

naw didnt notice but thanks for pointing that out

hmm
randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:37
randombullseye
@RAB

Me and my girlfriend argued back and fourth if he was even dead it was too vague.

I already wrote in the forums about who I want to see. Bane.
nebones's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:39
nebones
Awesome poster.
pendelton21's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:43
pendelton21
@Desert:
In the first movie, Vale was a photographer. But, in the comics, she was a reporter (I believe), so there may be something there. Good eye.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:43
RAB
srsly right? they left it really open.

my buddies and i were aruing about it for a while, wether that scene with his picture was a wake or a funeral.

or if that is even relevant.

but either way i think it's definately possible to bring back dent.

RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 03:46
RAB
also after staring at this picture for such a long time, two-face reminds me of Jack thompson.

also also sorry for spamming your blog up
<3
Jack8274's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 04:09
Jack8274
Jim Carrey returning as the riddler in my honest opinion be quite good. The Number 23 was bad, I mean real bad, like facemelter bad, but I was honestly convinced that Jim Carrey was just some insane guy. Playing that obsessive compulsive psycho, mixed with a twist of humor would be gold in my opinion. See Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind for an example of proper acting by Carrey.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 04:20
hpv
After the Dark Knight I can see Nolan doing an incredible job with the Riddler. But if they're going to do another Batman villian who's been done before I'd rather see Catwoman.
randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 04:22
randombullseye
@Jack8274

Jim Carey as the Riddler was horrible. He was doing another version of the TV show Riddler, not comic book or the 90s animated series Riddler. I want him to be obsessed with mocking Batman with his riddles, not saying "Spank you. Spank you very much."
Flakor's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 04:28
Flakor
Personally, I want this fellow to show back up in the Batman Universe.



The Phantasm first showed up in the Batman Animated Movie, she was Bruce's Ex-Fiancee who had vengence against the Joker on her mind. Not only would she fill in a hole that is now empty thanks to Rachel dying. Also, what really needs to be done is someone who is a lot like Batman but something kinda like what Batman could of become.
Fusiontr's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 05:17
Fusiontr
I don't really think Two Face is dead. I think the wake was for the death of Harvey Dent (which is pretty much what happened when he became Two Face). So in all honesty I think he's coming back, plus Nolan did show interest in looking into Two Face a bit more.

As someone said, I'd like to see Harley Quinn in one of the Batman films or even a new Penguin perhaps.

Either way, as long as Nolan is in charge it'll be fucking epic.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 06:02
Jim Sterling
I don't know much about Batman, but I love some Riddler. May definitely be the wrong choice to follow Joker however, unless they really set about emphasizing the OCD stuff.
free touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 06:15
free touch
1: two-face isn't dead. Doesn't matter if this is the "nolan-verse" or whatever, he still has to somewhat follow cannon. Two-face is still alive in the comics. And you do really think DC/Warner would let him kill off a major villian?

2: Riddler in no way shape or form anything like the Joker. He isn't cutesy. He doesn't leave riddles behind all the time, thats the way he used to be. If you read the Hush storyline, he leaves clues more than anything. His whole thing is trying to outsmart the batman, by leaving clues that would even stump the worlds greatest detective. Seeing as how Nolan doesn't want to make Batman smart "durr dog bit me, need a new suit", I think the Riddler would be sweet.

But it's two early in the movies for a Riddler villian, because you need more backstory in this bat-universe for him to be worth while.

I think that Mr. Freeze would do a great job, it would still fit this universe, and we all know that they like to use gizmos and gadgets in these movies, so, we could see some thermal gloves. plus it would fit the m.o. "durrr I am cold, need new suit"
Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 06:15
Kif
Still think they should do the Ivy/Quinn combo, but a Riddler is fine too.
bloodylip's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 06:29
bloodylip
@free touch

Because comic movies always follow canon, right?
Red TheHaze Veron's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 06:31
Red TheHaze Veron
fakity-fake.
Clance's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 06:37
Clance
I think Jim Carrey would do it well. I mean, come on Batman Forever was not his fault. He was given the script and directed, etc etc... I think he would be SO determined to get it right. I don't know though. Who else is there?

man, that poster is good.... 2011 sounds about right. It doesn't look fake but what does that mean? It could be just a great fake or something to throw people.
Clance's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 06:40
Clance
Free Touch,

Great post until you mentioned Mr. Freeze.

Plus, I doubt they will make Ras Al Goul immortal but maybe make it that he didn't actually die - we never saw his corpse, did we? I've seen it a few times but I don't think so. He may just come back but they leave it unexplained, so's to keep in line with the world more fixed in reality.
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 07:19
Kryptinite
JOHNNY DEPP FOR RIDDLER!
randombullseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 07:23
randombullseye
@Flakor

The Phantasm was based on a character from Batman: Year Two

@Free Touch

Mr. Freeze with his animated series origin would be awesome. Before that, he was a joke character. Captain Cold had more back story than him. With this "Nolanverse," super natural elements seem out of place. I think we'd see the Ventriloquist before Mr. Freeze.
KamikazeTutor's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 07:31
KamikazeTutor
Can't wait for "The Dark Knight Forever".
Garbz's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 07:32
Garbz
Last i heard David Tennant was interested in playing the Riddler should the character be used in a Batman film again.
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 08:21
B-Radicate
If they do Riddler I would prefer to see a Kevin Spacey a la Se7en take on the character. Just make him a really sick mother fucker with a grand scheme so many steps ahead of the audience it just mind rapes you no matter how many times you watch it.

As for Depp... meh.
Big Z's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 08:31
Big Z
Nolan's spotlight villains thus far have been doing crime on a Gotham-wide scale. Keeping in mind who has been used already, who among Batman's rogues gallery does that leave? Personally I would love to see The Riddler take the center stage for villainy in the next Nolan film.
Ambulance-Y's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 08:35
Ambulance-Y
has no one noticed riddle written on the hand?
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 08:36
covah
just on the timing I'm going to say thats fake, but a god damn good fake.
kintaeb's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 09:00
kintaeb
The Riddler was already in TDK as far as I'm concerned. The guy that works for Wayne that figured out that Batman was Bruce Wayne is named Coleman Reese. Mr. Reese. Mysteries. Nolan has changed some lore already, so I figure this is just a way to introduce the Riddler without it being the obvious Edward Nygma.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 09:11
Gameboi
Like Randombullseye said, I'd like to see Bain. Since the Dark Knight took such a dark turn, it would be interesting to seem him follow the Knightfall storyline for the next one.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 09:16
Tubatic
@Kintaeb

Oh snap.

Buuuut . . . that's a tricky one. The actor that played Coleman Reese is . . . not strong, from my point of view. It's a bold setup, but can that guy really carry the role? Not that they can't change actors . . . but I personalyl have never been a big fan of that.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 09:29
Tubatic
@gameboi

That significantly cinematic fall that Batman took next to Dent kinda softens him up for that iconic backbreaker from Bain. I'm thinking he's a likely candidate
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 09:46
007
Woah, that's pretty awesome. I say it's legit.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 09:57
Brian Szabelski
It's fake on all accounts, I'd say, but a good fake none the less.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 11:03
Holyetheline
I really want Johnny Depp to play the villain... whoever it might be.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 11:46
RAB
@ Jack8274

..carey was a terrible riddler.

he was just playing everyyy other character he's ever played..only in a green skin tight suit.



also in my oppinion VENTRILOQUIST ALL DAY!!!

MAKE IT HAPPEN, NOLAN!
AKK's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 11:47
AKK
Two face would have died of infection even if he survived the fall. He's done.

I can't remember who, but someone said that since there are hundreds of villains in the series, the Riddler and Catwoman will not be the villains for the next movie.

And the use of The Scarecrow shows that Noland will use all villains, no matter how obscure, just so long as they're awesome. So, we may very well get someone that hasn't existed for years.
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 12:03
RAB
denzel washington as riddler

MEK IT HAPPN!
RAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 12:09
RAB
lolque?

Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 12:10
Usedtabe
Agree with Gameboi. Whole-heartedly. Give me Knightfall, whether it be nolan or an animated film.
Aziel13's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 13:34
Aziel13
one can only hope
Fusiontr's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 13:56
Fusiontr
If the Riddler does come back, I hope Nolan portrays him as they did in the Animated Series, as sort of a smooth talking con man instead a babbling hyperactive stalker like Jim Carrey's.
Also I'd like to see him in the Animated Series suit (the one in RAB's poster) instead of a jumpsuit
pendelton21's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/14/2008 15:48
pendelton21
Nice find, RAB.
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