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A Troll's Retrospect
obeliskofaxum | 9:18 PM on 09.13.2009 37 comments




As I've made my first few tentative steps into the deep and vast ocean of the Destructoid community, I've been surprised by how well people get along here. It's an unusual and even staggering experience to have people speak to me with a genuine interest in what I have to say. On the very day I join, no less. It's an even stranger experience when compared to the gaming communities I was with before. As far as I can tell, many people migrate here from GameFAQs. I, however, had my beginnings on 4chan's video games board, /v/.

It's something I don't often bring up, because when people hear the word "4chan", they think of /b/, and all of the negative press it's earned. /v/ isn't that much different, it still has the trolls, the racism, sexism, the idiocy of any other part of 4chan, but at the very least it had a serious collection of people interested in the game.

So I thought I'd share my perspective on trolling on a site that's mysteriously free of them.

I'll start off by admitting I trolled. I'd start threads about how the PS3 had no games, or other times I'd start a thread about how the Wii is only for prepubescent children. My goal was to deliberately stir up drama by taking whatever side you weren't on. Sure, there would be personal attacks thrown, and the discussion would eventually fall off course, but for a while there would be be at least one gamer desperately trying to think of the cleverest, most well-thought out argument they could put to words on an online forum. I liked to think I helped incite discussions that might not have happened if I hadn't invoked Godwin's law three posts in.

I should also add a disclaimer- I don't and have never believed in trolling that spills over to IRL. Getting home addresses, phone numbers, or any other pranks that directly affect a person's life away from the computer is not something I do. That said, if I can bring a kid to a foaming rage by suggesting that Madden 09 was far superior to Metroid Prime, I'd happily do so despite actually really liking that game. Out of all the drama that exists on the Internet, whether it's religious debates, political arguements, or any other form of melodrama, I've found that Nerd Rage is hilariously easy to exploit, over and over again.


For my part, I have no regrets. It entertained me and the only consequence was the possibility that I might have hurt someone's feelings. On the Internet.



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ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:15
ChronosWing
Oh there were trolls, epic trolls, you just missed them all. But there will be more don't worry.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:25
MrSadistic
I used to have a troll doll collection.

Most people are butt hurt by the random troll around here, but I enjoy them on occasion.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:27
vexed alex
No place on the internet is ever free of trolls. It's just something we have to deal with -- like ants.
obeliskofaxum's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:31
obeliskofaxum
@chronoswing

Where? On the forums, or on the cblogs? I can scarcely imagine someone spending the time necessary to create a subtle enough blog that would also be sufficiently rage-inducing.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:31
Naim Master
I freaking love trolls, they bring the community together! You see, I'm in a bad mood recently, by the notable lack of trolls in here, things may change these days though, as we seen to have a new troll friend 'round here!
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:38
ChronosWing
@Obelisk

Exhibit A: Hoborg.
obeliskofaxum's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:40
obeliskofaxum
@Naim Master

By bringing the community together, do you mean together against a common enemy?

I may troll a lot less here, admittedly. Between the /v/irgins on 4chan, saying 'Die in a fire, fgt' is synonymous with 'I actually like that game but can't afford it right now'. To troll was par for the course. It really depends on the type of people in the community.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:43
MrSadistic
Don't forget Cotton McKnight and that one pretentious douche bag who hated people who commented on pointless blogs and passed the more "relevant" ones.

Like comments on a blog count for something around here.
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:46
ChronosWing
@Sadistic

Kyousake Failbu

I saw him comment the other day, he may come in here now that I mentioned his name and start his nonsense about me being reaprar in disguise.
obeliskofaxum's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:46
obeliskofaxum
@chronoswing

HA. Brilliant. This site even has amazing trolls!
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:48
Naim Master
@obeliskfaxum
That, swearing, posting unrelated images and making war companions; also, plenty 'a trolls, for the recent ones: JOHN3 (he's on the recent Cblogs right now, see it), Zpoope (racist blogs), Hoborg (homophobic blogs, thesaurus language and I-hate-games blogs), there's the recent Hoborg new account, Groboh the Barbarian, and many, many others!
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:50
Naim Master
Oh, and the legendary MICHI!
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:53
Naim Master
And let's not forget about the fabled WiiSucks and those-old-members-that-I-won't-even-bother-to-tell-because-people-think-staying-in-a-site-for-one-year-more-makes-them-superior-and-untouchable-beings!
theredpepperofdoom's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 22:55
theredpepperofdoom
I remember Hobrog and Zpoope. Does Reaprar count as a troll? I remember the Eternity's Child review shitstorm to this day.
bluexy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 23:01
bluexy
Someone needs to keep a record of our trolls. They remind us of where Destructoid has been and where it's going. Poetic isn't it? They all have been amazing in retrospect.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 23:04
Naim Master
@bluexy
Not all, don't you let nostalgia bite you, Zelda-fan!
obeliskofaxum's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 23:26
obeliskofaxum
@bluexy

I'd caution against romanticizing trolls too much, but I agree that the trolls here do seem to help provide a timeline of Destructoid's highs and lows.
sickNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 23:34
sickNasty
you gotta pay the troll toll, if you want to get in this boy's hole...
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 23:34
Knivy
Wiisucks is a legend! Don't speak ill of him!
bluexy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 23:35
bluexy
Summa was a troll, and you hardly hear about him anymore. We must never forget.
Joanna Mueller's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 23:41
Joanna Mueller
I'd have to agree with the trolls bringing us all together, nothing brings a community closer than having mutual dislike in common. When I first joined I was a horrible troll feeder. Always spending way too long coming up with well thought out replies, thinking I was going to make a difference. I was so young then.

@ Naim,

Isn't Michi still around, but only posting links to his "real" blog that apparently nobody reads? Last I read he was saying that we didn't deserve his full blogs and as soon as his readership picked up he was outta here. He's no Hoborg, but he can be damned entertaining.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2009 23:54
Naim Master
@zodiac (YES, I love when people call me just by Naim, the Master at the end of it was really unnecessary, but I don't have enough e-cred to request for a name change like PuppyLicks... It also makes my heart warm and fuzzy, because IRL most friends call me by Naim!)

I thought he was trying to pull of a tourrete/MPD guy, but seeing how he has a real blog now, I fear he may be real! *opens mouth in disbelief*
Loogibot's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 00:13
Loogibot
Kyousake Nanbu was an entertaining troll. He/she/it was very bi-polarish, acting up then apologizing, the acting up again. Dtoid is a relatively troll-free environment, they appear from time to time, but they make little impact. Although I'd say Hoborg was a legendary troll.
Tristero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 00:38
Tristero
I actually really liked WiiSucks. He painted a cool picture of me once. But then I became friends with him on Xbox Live and he kept sending me weird messages about him wanting me to molest him. And I was worried that he was underage and that I might get in trouble, so I blocked him. It was a disappointing end to our internet friendship.
spacecadetjoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 01:07
spacecadetjoe
we used to have some really super trolls, i love trolls, i miss our trolls of yore
smurfee mcgee's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 01:19
smurfee mcgee
lol I didn't even realize the barbarian's name!
But trolls. I just...Fuck em.
Too many people on this site try too hard. Light those motherfuckers on fire.
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 01:26
MechaMonkey
I played L4D with WiiSucks once. It was without a doubt one of the most trying ordeals I've ever put myself through. I still stand by the eulogy I wrote for him though. 5/5 firetrucks indeed.

But seriously, trolls are fun and hilarious, especially when they're slain. This one was my particular favorite, especially after he unsuccessfully attempted to hide his idiocy by deleting the title and content of his cblog, but not the post itself: The Greatest Image Rape In Dtoid History
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 01:27
GoldenGamerXero
I remember when I thought there where no trolls. Someone then directed me to a copy of WiiSucks profile, Hoborg's old blogs and the entire achive of Robert Summa. The last one being so bad that his updates are stored in a tag labeled "Epic Douchebag"

I suggest you look at Gene Eric if you want a more recent troll. He's not quite the same level as older ones but he's getting there!
grasslunatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 02:16
grasslunatic
Trolls are usually hilarious.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 05:25
Y0j1mb0
LOL @ Tristero.
Bat Country's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 06:23
Bat Country
Lol, I'm brand new and from /v/, too. I think the big difference between here and our bros at 4chan is the obvious: Anon. I'm not a tripchan, so I guess it's nice to form an identity here.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 08:22
CelicaCrazed
I think what's hilarious is when trolls come in here trying to stir shit up and they instead get the giant community cock slapped in their face. The angrier they get, the funnier it becomes for us. But we are becoming better at distinguishing between the newbs who jumped headfirst into the c-blogs and didn't know any better to the actual trolls. This is good.

I never considered Kyo Nanbu a troll. He is a negative douche but at least he cared about the betterment of the Dtoid community. But breaking up our homoerotic love sessions is always a way to get in the bad books here. Remember that!!
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 09:44
PappaDukes
Destructoid does indeed have (or had in most cases) some epic trolls. This place never gets old.
blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 11:53
blehman
penis
VWGTI's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 12:46
VWGTI
i lkie trolls they r fun
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2009 14:16
Char Aznable
I spoke with WiiSucks on Xbox Live one time, and that motherfucker never shuts up. I had to just bail on the party chat after 10 minutes, I couldn't take it any more.

He must have been deprived of attention as a child.
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