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NES- Legend of Zelda, Gumshoe, Pro Wrestling, Tetris
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Nintendo 64- Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Harvest Moon 64
Gamecube- Ikaruga, Harvest Moon, Animal Crossing, Metroid Prime
Wii- Metal Slug Anthology, No More Heroes, Wii Sports

Genesis- Columns, Golden Axe
Dreamcast- Shenmue, NBA 2K1

XBox- Ninja Gaiden, Stubbs the Zombie, Fatal Frame
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PS2- GTA:San Andreas, Metal Gear Solid 2, Shadow of the Colossus, FirePro Wrestling
PS3- Uncharted, Warhawk, NBA 2k8

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I am a children's librarian living in Los Angeles.

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I hate people who talk down to others. I like talking down to people who talk down to others to prove a point.

I spend way too much on video games, action figures, comics, and beer.

I plan on writing blog entries as soon as I am done with this whole lazy thing, which I enjoy.

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Aversion to Sports Games
norm9 | 1:09 PM on 05.14.2009 10 comments


When I was about 6 years old, my dad took all of us to the local Target. This was right after Chinese News Year, and I had a pocket full of money just itching to be spent on the next NES game. Beyond Transformers and toy soldiers, I wasn’t a big action figure type of kid at the time. No, I couldn’t wait to get to the electronics section and see the giant wall of Nintendo games mounted, each a potential adventure for me to play and cherish.

When I got there, (cue the heavenly music) I was inundated with black boxes with cool looking pictures of the games that I could be playing when I got home. Each belonged to a “series.” There was the action series, adventure series, and I also remember the sports series. I could not fathom all the different types of games that were available to me.

My dad is not a very patient man, and he wanted me to pick my game so we could be on our way. I looked and looked, and finally saw something I wanted to play- Baseball. I gestured to it, and he picked it up and looked at it. Then he told me something I would never forget. “These games are a waste of time. Pick something else.”



I was heartbroken. I wanted to play Baseball. It looked so cool and fun. But my dad’s word was the law, and I so I had to pick something else out. In the end, I think I picked Donkey Kong Jr. (I don’t remember completely) and had a blast playing it. The important thing I remember that always stuck with me was that “Sports games are a waste of time.” It would carry with me for many years until I had my own source of income and then I was able to purchase sports games under my own volition.

This morning, I got to thinking, what causes everyone else in the gaming community to have this aversion to sports games? For myself, it was my dad’s words. I didn’t question it, because in my 6 year old mind, truth spoken is truth said. Could it have been, that he wanted me to go out and play these sports in real life? I would go on a couple years later to play Little League baseball.



Or, could the truth have been much more sinister? Could it have been something I was being warned about and just couldn’t comprehend at the time? Yes, I believe I had my answer. My dad was a prophet. He came to the realization before I did that sports games are the same. No matter the title, the initial five minutes of a sports game will be the exact same as the next five minutes of a game. And those first ten minutes of a sports game will be the exact same as the last ten minutes of a sports game. Nothing changes. And real life variables that apply like wind, skill level of competitors and teammates can not truly be duplicated by a computer’s formula. Because in real life, random chance is at play. That cannot occur in a session of Madden or NBA Live. If it does, it is a bug, a glitch.



As an adult, I have the means to purchase my own games and on occasion I do buy sports games. However, each time I do, I do hear a distant nagging in the back of my mind that states, “Its just a waste of time.” Inevitably, I shrug off the talking and purchase my game. Upon playing it though, I make note to remind myself that yes, that voice in my head is correct, and though the graphics may be shinier, the options more robust, that the Madden session I’m engaged in or the online match of Fifa that I’m playing, is the absolutely fuckin’ same game I played when I was little. Only they’re not titled John Elway’s Football, or just plain old Soccer.

Epilogue- I do enjoy sports games. I also enjoy real life sports. No matter how far technologically we have moved forward in the realm of the sports genre, nothing beats being outside playing a pick up game for an hour with friends and strangers. Win or lose. That my friends, is true co-op.



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Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 13:43
Chris Carter
Samit will fap over this blog for years to come.

Personally, even though Dtoid hate sports, my friends and I will play franchise mode for 15 hours straight sometimes in all the latest Madden games. It's so fun to just sit around, have ESPN Classic on in the background, get some beers, and just "chise". I used to play the SNES versions with my Dad. Man you just brought back some awesome Sports games memories.

We simulate every game unless it's a Super Bowl, and only do 2 training camps to save time. Franchise mode multiplayer is probably one of the greatest tools ever made, as you can simply pass off the controller and play with more than 4 people. My dream day will be to 'chise with Samit.
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 14:49
fetusmilk
ha i was at a goodwill today and they had 4 madden games for the SNES, i didnt bother to get them cause its football and not hockey, also they were like 13$ each. my goodwill is a rip off.. they also had a gamecube with no cords. just the cube.
Primo's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 14:57
Primo
did you take that last picture? That's cooler than any basketball court I have ever played on.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 16:01
Tubatic
"And real life variables that apply like wind, skill level of competitors and teammates can not truly be duplicated by a computer’s formula. Because in real life, random chance is at play. That cannot occur in a session of Madden or NBA Live. If it does, it is a bug, a glitch. "

This statement is not true for modern sports game as of at least 6 years ago. I beleive the Madden series is running some of the most indepth simulation in gaming today.

To be honest, I've skimmed the article. I'm real interested in reading it all the way though.
norm9's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 17:07
norm9
@Primo- No I didn't. Its a really good picture though. I believe that's a playground in China.

@Tubatic- I think AI formulas are really really good. However, it will never compare to last minute human nature and twitch reactions. A while back, I played a game of Madden and I threw a pass to my FB. He never had a chance to catch it because he ran his route, oblivious to the fact that a blitz occured, and the pass was thrown at his back where it was impossible to catch. I would hope that in real life, the FB would have the ability to turn his head and notice the rushing LB going towards the line and then compensating. Little things like that can't be duplicated in games. At least until Skynet is up and running.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 17:36
Tubatic
@norm9

Your FB must not have had high awareness stats. :)

I've played a bunch of games where, when I've got my first string guys in, they do plenty of reacting "on the fly" (because of course its all calculations but...) and amazing, exciting plays happen. but, when I'm on my second string, there's absolutely no concept of "improvising" a play.

That said, there'll always be exploits. For a good string of years, Tight Ends were more or less off the defensive radar. So, if you really need to make a clinch play, your TE was Always your go to guy. I'd like to they they've compensated for that in the 3 years I haven't played Madden, but of course, there's always something.

I get you though. There's some things, on some level, that you can't quite program.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2009 17:56
Tubatic
Good read BTW.

I think the general aversion across the land is the lamentation of resources and shelf space going to a game that, at its core, won't change much year to year, like you've pointed out.

That, and, I think there's a certain level of eliteism going on. Proper gamers aren't interested in sharing their hobbyist title with Jock Gamers. Which I think is silly, since there are plenty of niche cultures in gaming, like shooter fans and fighter fanatics.
themizarkshow's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/15/2009 07:09
themizarkshow
I've definitely enjoyed my share of sports games, when they are well made, but I think they flood the market with unneeded yearly revisions. They should move to a subscription or DLC-model of updating these games so that they can be as up to date as possible without flooding shelves and confusing consumers.
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