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Old-school gamer. I started gaming with the Atari 2600. I became an addict with the arcade release of Street Fighter II at my college. The SNES release pushed me into buying that system and a lame arcade stick. I haven't looked back since then. I still consider the 16-bit to be the Golden Age of gaming. The current generation is keeping me pretty happy, especially with the fighting game renaissance that's happening lately. And, yes, I'm old.

Proud owner of: Kiwi Gameboy Color, GBA SP, GBA Micro, PSP 3000, White DS Lite, Silver NeoGeo Pocket, purple SwanCrystal, SNES, Genesis, N64, purple Gamecube, slim PS2, Dreamcast, Wii and PS3.

Favorite Games: Last Blade 2, Street Fighter Alpha 2, Mark of the Wolves, Zelda: A Link to the Past, Zelda: Minish Cap, Dark Stalkers, King of Fighters, Mega Man ZX, Ikaruga, Macross: Do You Remember Love, Raiden Trad, Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Valkyria Chronicles, Professor Layton, Killer7



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King of Fighters XIII
King of Fighters 2k2: UM (PS2)
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift (PS3)

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My thoughts on the APOCALYPS3
nilcam | 10:52 AM on 03.02.2010 23 comments


A few facts about me: I am a console/arcade gamer. There are a few reasons for this. I don't like Windows, never have and I doubt I ever will. I enjoy problem solving but I don't have a desire to have to configure and work to play games. The beauty of console games is that I pop in a game and it works. True consoles ended with the last generation of hardware. I say this because this generation is more PC-like than any previous console generation. All of the systems have an OS. These OSes need updates in order to be stabilized, patched and add new functionality. Games can, and sometimes must, be installed to a hard drive. The DS is the only pure console of the current line up.

All of that said, let's examine the APOCALYPS3.

I'm not angry about this event. I know the Xbox has had similar problems and Nintendo has bricked consoles with their updates so it's not unusual in the current climate. While I am not angry, I am concerned. Apparently, the problem was caused by a calendar bug. This bug screwed up the PSN and this trickled down to non-slim PS3s. In the course of the APOCALYPS3, many games were not playable due to the trophy system. This is very troubling to me. Does this mean that, at some point in the future, my PS3 games will simply not work due to the trophies no longer existing? As it is, the entire trophy/achievement concept is ridiculous but, if this is true, it's actually harmful and that has me concerned.

This whole incident has made me miss the pure console days. I love that my PS2, Gamecube, N64, SNES, GBA, GB Color, NES, NeoGeo Pocket Color and Atari 2600 never needed an update. I miss knowing that my console would not be bricked due to a required system update. I miss the days when consoles were simply consoles.



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RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 11:21
RenegadePanda
I'm worried about not being able to play my PS3 games in the future whenever Sony drops support for the system. I'm trying to build up my PS3 collection, I'll be adding 3 games to it this month, but I don't want them to all be unplayable just because Sony decides to make it that way.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 11:58
Elsa
While that might be true, I like that I can download a PSN game from an online store connected to the console, I like that devs can patch games to make them better or more balanced, I like online gaming and chatting with far away friends while gaming, I like that new maps or DLC is available as an option to extend the life of a game... overall I like that internet connectivity provides generally more positives than negatives to gaming.

I don't personally miss the non-connected days, though it's good to know that those consoles are still around for those that prefer it.
James Andrews's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 12:09
James Andrews
We will never the likes of the PS2 again. It is in my opinion, the last great console of the un-wired era. From here on out well be entangled in the hardware manufacturer's crud. At least Demon's Souls almost makes it worth the trouble.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 12:19
Chris Carter
"but I don't have a desire to have to configure and work to play games."

I never have to do this either, and I'm a huge PC gamer.

Answer - get Steam.

Educate yourself!
NoMore's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 12:32
NoMore
Final fantasy XIII and Yakuza 3 are coming out soon and I'm crapping myself because I'm too scared to turn my PS3 on. I miss putting a game inside a console turning it on and just playing a game. I miss memory cards, multiple discs and game cartridges, I agree with you I miss the old consoles back when i didn't have to worry. At least for the past week I've played my trusty launch day PS2 that has never had any problems!
JamnOnTheOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 12:44
JamnOnTheOne
"I like that I can download a PSN game from an online store connected to the console, I like that devs can patch games to make them better or more balanced, I like online gaming and chatting with far away friends while gaming, I like that new maps or DLC is available as an option to extend the life of a game... overall I like that internet connectivity provides generally more positives than negatives to gaming. "

Let's talk in a couple console generations when you try to go and play something that needs to "validate" against a server that no longer exists.

I'm personally against any for pay DLC because there will come a day when those virtual bits are no longer available for you to get. I just wonder how many generations it will be until that's the case.
Pencoin's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 13:07
Pencoin
Amen Brother - I don't like where all this is headed.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 13:12
pedrovay2003
That's something I hadn't thought of... I play console games for the same reasons you do. I'm kinda worried now... :(
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 13:22
Trev
It shouldn't be an issue. The problem wasn't that you couldn't connect to the PSN; not connecting was just one of the symptoms. What happened was the hardware clock thought it was a day that didn't exist, which may as well have been "February Jillionth" or "Cadillac", so the software clock went back to it's earliest valid date, which was before all your content was valid.

In the distant future, where Sony pulls the plug on the PSN to make way for PSN3.0 or whatever, your console's clock won't be reading Napoleon-thirty pm, and your games will all work fine, and unlock trophies locally on your PS3. There just won't be an online to sync them to.
AlexBebop's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 13:38
AlexBebop
Okay, QUESTION: So some single player games couldn't be played because the trophies couldn't connect to PSN (or something to that effect), right?

So does this mean that those games are unplayable to people who DON'T hook up their consoles to the internet? I'm sure there's plenty of people out there who don't, so that would be pretty messed up.
nilcam's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 13:57
nilcam
@Magnalon: Steam doesn't run natively in Ubuntu so that's a no go for me. Also, I prefer playing games on my HDTV. My laptop doesn't cut it.
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 13:58
Trev
@callmeAlex
All games (aside from online-multiplayer-only titles) work offline. The sign-in/trophies issues were just symptoms, not the actual problem. The console thought it was February 29th, 2010. 2/29/2010 doesn't exist so it leaped back to 1999, before any of the content was valid. That's also why the problem went away when 00:00GMT rolled around. The hardware clocked flipped over to a valid date.

The PS3 was just temporarily crazy, in a very Lovecraftian way, living in a day outside of time.
Blasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 14:11
Blasto
@Nilcam:
I'm a console-only gamer, and even I know that you can hook a laptop up to an HDTV via HDMI, DVI or VGA. Just sayin'.

And, I agree with the sentiment that DRM is a pox on this generation of consoles. I love my PS3, but I despise that I can't put a hard drive from one PS3 into another PS3 without formatting and losing my data; it's total bullshit. This is one area that Microsoft's overpriced HDs are far superior to Sony's more open solution.
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 14:16
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@nilcam

Laptops aren't for gaming anyways. Sitting 12" from a 23" 1080p monitor is just as good as gaming 10 feet away from a 42" HDTV. I honestly get more engrossed in games on my PC with surround sound headphones and the screen being so close. I usually have a hard time doing that from a couch due to more things that can take my attention away from the screen.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 14:19
Elsa
@JamnOnTheOne.... it really depends on the type of gamer you are. A lot of older games aren't able to be played online anymore because the servers are gone - c'est la vie, we accept it. If a time comes when my DLC is no longer available to me or valid it likely won't bother me much. I don't tend to play older games and instead I buy and play newer games. I rarely if ever replay a game because I could be spending the time with a new experience.

Technology evolves, that's simply the way life is. I have my wedding on a VHS tape and I know that if I want to keep it I'll have to at least transfer it to a DVD or lose it. As it stands now I bought the DLC for Oblivion and gave the game away so that DLC is certainly a write off... but I got my money's worth out of it when I played it (the Shivering Isles expansion).

Life doesn't stand still, but new things do arise for those determined enough. In all reality, many of the games and DLC that I currently purchase will be available through some other technological advance... even if it's pirated and available on the internet.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 14:28
Chris Carter
@Nilcam
What others have said. I prefer playing on my HDTV as well.

So you know what I do? Hook up an HDMI cable from my PC to my TV as easy as I can hook up one to my PS3! Done!
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 14:47
CelicaCrazed
It's not something I'm too worried about. I mean I can't play Roller Coaster Tycoon and many other older PC games anymore so it's not like this is unheard of before. I'm sure Sony, MS and Nintendo wouldn't want to face the throng of angry customers if their old purchases suddenly stopped working. That would not give customers confidence to buy anything else from them.
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 14:50
Crunshii
well said my friend, well said. This means that in the next gen systems, will be all controlled via online. Were games will have some sort of expiration date. If you buy a certain game that no one in the world likes, it will be shut down and removed from the online store.

We already noticed that games bought online are almost the same price as retail stores for no friggin reason other than more profits (but who can blame the developer, its costing them so damn much to develop games that make or break the company). So having games synced with your achievements, trophies, w/e, will limit games to being bound to them. Just like Heavy Rain.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 15:36
Chris Carter
@Celica
There's workabouts, and Win95/DOSBOX emulation.

Granted, those are hard to figure out, but it's better than nothing! Ie Slims not having b/c.
Master Snake's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 15:53
Master Snake
"We will never see the likes of the PS2 again. It is in my opinion, the last great console of the un-wired era."

THIS.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 17:09
CelicaCrazed
Magnalon, that is what I like about you. You help me when the rest of the internet doesn't.

*reinstalls RCT once again*
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2010 19:39
Takeshi
Read what Trev said. I think I've said the exact same thing about 20 times during this whole apocalypse. Nobody reads what is necessary, they read what sounds most concerning.

Ever been offline but still got a trophy? There, you go.
nilcam's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2010 07:05
nilcam
@Takeshi: My PS3 is always online. As soon as I sign into my account, the system auto logs into my PSN account. Besides, no one would speculate so much if Sony were more open with information in this situation.
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