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Really you could take a black and white picture of a dog turd and people will be going off about how it represents how people have to watch out during life and look ahead or else they'll find themselves in bad situations. Anything can be art!!
You like art in games. That's fine.
I, however, much more enjoy competition and challenge in games. It's not that I don't enjoy beautiful games, it's just not what defines fun for me.
"Now I understand that many people don’t like to think when playing games and that’s fine"
Good God, I suppose its true that some people don't think when they game. Am I in the minority for thinking while I game? I suppose it would explain the success of certain titles/platforms...
I am not talking about any given item such as graphics, story, ideas, or gameplay, but rather talking about all of them.
And no, The Real Prisoner's Dilemma study they did in 1950 is not a game and I would say that anyone that thinks so is twisted. But the Game of Prisoner's Dilemma could be thought to be fun and intriguing. And in both cases the definition would apply and someone was having fun from intrigue. Or the game would not be played at all in the 1st place.
And as for game: we are going to be using the noun;
a competitive activity involving skill, chance, or endurance on the part of two or more persons who play according to a set of rules, usually for their own amusement or for that of spectators.
If someone says that they thought a game was artistic and/or interesting but they didn't find it particularly fun to play, can you really tell them in good conscience that they're wrong?
And when we check our list of synonyms:
absorbing, entertaining. Interesting, pleasing, gratifying mean satisfying to the mind.
That is what comes of for interesting.
Or by definition
engaging or exciting and holding the attention or curiosity
arousing a feeling of interest
Exactly how does a game simultaneously be interesting yet not fun?
- chemistry
- death
- bungee jumping
- illnesses
- calculus
- politics
- baseball
- Heroes
- art galleries
- manufacturing jobs (ugh)
See!! All these things can be "interesting" but "fun" is not a word I would use to describe them. For me at least :P
If any of those things interest you then it is fun to think about them.
Jolly good show, mate.
Even with the things I listed, I can have an interest out of respect for these things. I find them fascinating in how they integrate with our lives but that's where it stops. As I said, I find chemistry interesting but if I found it fun I wouldn't have failed it. Same as calculus.
I may not agree with your opinion, and it may not be directly out video games, but damn did you start a good discussion :)
You classify fascinating/curiosity and interesting together as one in the same.
I do not and I think we just found out that in this world there are two types of people in this world.
People who hold fascinating/curiosity and interesting as the same.
And people that don't.
Now that is interesting and opens up this topic to "do people think that games that try to be art are fascinating."
Were is Rev when you need self proclaimed number one authority on the matter.