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My name is Naia (pronounced either Nay-a or Neye-a, like yay or like eye) I am I'm a starving artist in LA trying to keep my sanity. I do mostly freelance stuff and I'm always looking for people (even on DToid) to do fun projects with in entertainment. That can be either in theater, film, TV, or video games. I want to be like Kermit the Frog and be part of a group that entertains. I also love blue slimes, puppies and Sprinkles Cupcakes.

I've been playing computer and video games all my life. My dad's a programmer so we got an IBM PC very early on in the 80's. For Christmas in 1989 my parents surprised me with a Nintendo and it's been downhill ever since. I have/had an NES, gameboy (of all flavors) SNES, Sega Genesis, Sega Gamegear, Sega Saturn, PS1, PS2, PS3, Gamecube, DS, PSP, Wii, and 360. Whew!

I am a HUGE Dragon Quest Fan Girl. I did NOT buy an R4 to play Dragon Quest 4 in broken beta-english. I also do NOT play ROMs because I did NOT want to play Dragon Quest V and VI ten years ago in english, not knowing if I would ever see those games in the US. ROMS are bad :P Squenix can shit in a bag and if the bag has a cute slime on it, I'll buy it. I know it's a problem.

Also, Rydia is my hero.

I like games with colors in them aside from brown and black, even if most of the world calls those games "kiddy." Screw that! I play RPGs, Action/Adventure, Platformers, Puzzles, and Point-n-Click Adventure games. I will play fighters and shooters, but they have to be the right kind of game.

I'm such a nerd, I like to keep track of all the games I've completed in an excel file (it's around 300 something). Now that my backlog is out of control I have a word document for that too. My goal is to for once and for all eliminate the backlog, or at least keep it to a number in the single digits.

I have a lot of things to say about the game industry, it's something I care deeply about and love giving my opinions. I like to rant about shit. I'm here just to share what I have to say, in hopes someone is willing to listen. If I'm not here, I'm most likely wasting my life on IRC.

Also for the record, my Top 5 Games of All Time
1. Chrono Trigger
2. Final Fantasy 4
3. Super Mario 3
4. Dragon Quest 3
5. Phantasy Star 4

Yes, I love my retro games


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I've been on a "Point and Click" adventure kick lately. I started playing Phoenix Wright 2, which I got for Christmas. I enjoyed the stories enough that I moved immediately to Phoenix Wright 3, which I got when it came out for the Phoenix Wright keychain plushie. I REALLY got into the stories of the third game, but there was something that had been bothering me as I continued to play. Some aspects of the cases didn't seem right. I didn't expect things to be that different in the year 2016, but something about the dialog didn't fit with the assumed technological advances. Like Mr. Wright I did some investigating myself and found some perplexing paradoxes.

There are nearly no digital cameras: Pictures are frequently used as evidence. In nearly every case the camera uses film for its source and developed in the same way film is developed in the 90's and prior. Now I understand that pictures are still printed with the advent of the photo printers (I got mine in 2005). However there is frequent reference to film usage. In Phoenix Wright 3, one of the flashback cases, witness Melissa Foster (who we later know as demon bitch Dahlia Hawthorne) testifies with pictures she took with her camera. When Mia asks her about other photos on the camera she mentions that she ran out of film. Dahlia is most likely an amateur photographer and would have a camera that relfects that. In the year 2008 that's most likely a digital camera without film, let alone in the year 2012 when the case takes place. The only existence of a digital camera is one with pictures taken by the young boy Cody in case three of PW1 (the case with the Steel Samurai).



Security cameras also have film in them. One would think that in this day when we are making the transition now that the cameras would all be digital as well. After watching an episode of Las Vegas for a class and seeing all the security cameras completely digital in 2008, it would only make sense that the museum would have caught Masque deMasque and most likely caught him in HD. My guess is that it would be easier to spot and determine the identity of the "true" Masque de Masque in mid to late 20 teens.



I examined another case. In Phoenix Wright 3 one of the cases involves blackmail as a result of a genius programmer making a computer virus for the mob. Given the public awareness of computer viruses in todays day, it seems very odd that the vast majority of the people involved with the case (the judge, Maya Fey) have no idea what a computer virus is. Phoenix only has limited knowledge! How is that possible in that day and age? Furthermore, it seems a little odd that the computer virus is delivered on a CD. While it is uncertain what media will become the replacement for CD's surely people would more likely use a DVD, BD or a small jump drive. Given the severity of the crime it seems odd that something as obvious as a CD with the name of the virus labeled on it would be used.




I could be making a mountain out of a molehill, except that I found other references to technological advances that seemed obsolete even in present day. This is even more perplexing considering that these games were originally GBA games that came out in the early 2000's. An occasional cassette tape reference seemed grading, but more obsolete objects began to show up in the Phoenix Wright world. Aside from the clear statements from the developers, I wonder if the Ace Attorney series truly takes place in the distant future, when the technology suggests the games take place in the 1990's. It could be the result of me reading far into the details of this world I have grown to love, but this is the internet, the perfect place for nitpickery. Edgeworth would may not accept my evidence as valid enough in the court, but I have to at least wonder:

Did anyone else find this a little odd?
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nice writeup! I thought that was a little weird too, so many people being out of touch with tech and tech terms.

Although Dahlia Hawthorne, you must admit, seems to have alot of old timey sensibilities. One could argue that she's a film purist, or at the least, not so tech indoctrined to start referring to it as "memory space".

Also, a contraction in this game? Who had a baby?
Interesting read, it is true that some components doesn't add with the time that the series is told. Still, I think the developers used this "obsoletes" items to add more difficulty in some cases, like in the Masque deMasque case and the camera, still, let's remember that the camera was kinda digital in a way, since it was working directly from a computer (at least that's what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong).
Gosh you're so whiny....

You know I've never thought about that before. It doesn't quite add up.
I never noticed this before, but then I never knew that it was supposed to take place in the future either. I think I just always assumed it took place in the '90s.
The game came out in Japan (for GBA) right at the beginning of 2004, so the developers made the game in 2003. That still seems a little off, though.
Awesome post! I <3 the AA series :D

You do have to take a lot of things for granted in the games though. Like how Nick can prove someone didn't commit a crime, but unless you can prove that someone else did, your client still gets the chair :P If I remember correctly it even ahs a black and white crime scene photo next to a perfectly normal color photograph in the court record
@Tubatic:

Shit!!! I totally fail >_<
Hurrah for a fellow nitpicker! I owe you a drink, Naia. I just wrapped up the first Phoenix Wright, so I haven't got the pleasure of tearing into the others yet myself. Looking forward to it, though.

Also, Dick Gumshoe is my hero.
OBJECTION.

I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. It's sort of weird that the technology is "outdated", yes, but it's all part of how they tell the story in each case.

For instance, in the MC bomber case. The CD is initially used to give you the impression that the victim was an artist, and that the CD was music related. If the case details showed that he was giving him a jump drive, you could assume it was a virus or data rather than music. Also, Virus programs aren't necessarily large, so I'm sure it'd fit on a CD.

Also recall that in the mask demasque case the security system was personally set up by the villain. How boring the case would be if you could just point out it was him from the security feed. Also, that kind of conjecture wouldn't stand in a court room.

In short, the game is all about building up to the sensational plot twist. If you nitpick about some of the facts they use to direct you towards a certain conclusion so that they can reveal a major twist later on, I think you've missed the point.
You are such a nerd <3
Trying to making sense of the continuity of Phoenix Wright is something that could make blood shoot out your nose if you think about it long enough. Good write up :)
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