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Do you Invert?
mix | 11:54 AM on 03.01.2011 39 comments


As far back as I can remember, all the way back to when analog sticks and joy sticks were introduced to me in the video gaming world, I have always felt compelled to invert my Y-axis (vertical) settings in order to play and I don’t know why.





Out of everyone that I personally know who plays videogames just one of them happens to invert their Y-axis their settings like I do, so it is obvious to me that the most favourable option is “normal”. None of my friends understand why I invert and are just as equally annoyed as I when given a controller that has their preference of Y-axis settings reversed. Games that involve free range movement (FPS) or camera controls (3rd Person) must be inverted or I find them unplayable. This does not apply to PC games though as to me, moving a mouse up is up, but for some odd reason when you bring an analog stick into the equation up means down, down means up and I cannot bring myself to use normal settings, though I have tried.





Ahhh, Silent Hill: Home Coming on the PS3, how I wanted to love thee.
The developers allowed me to change the Y-axis when aiming a gun which was AWESOME; however, they seem to have completely forgotten about the X (horizontal) and the Y-axis for the camera controls in every regard. Within the hour, after running into walls and looking at the roof or floor I had ejected the game and neatly placed it back in its case only to be sold the very next day. I actually sent the developers an email, with no response back, because I was so pissed that they left out this simple option from their game! No name game developers making horrible, horrible games have been kind enough to include Invert options in their games, so why did they overlook this simple, and to me, very game breaking setting?





I invert the Y-axis in 3rd person games as well as in FPS games as it just feels right. I think that I have figured out the simplest way for me to try to explain “why” I invert .

Y-axis:
If I was physically holding a gun and I wanted to aim upward, I would have to lower my right hand and if I wanted to aim down I would have to raise my right hand up. This translates in my mind to moving my thumb down in FPS game to aim up and moving my thumb up for aiming down. This may only make sense in my mind but it is hard to explain why you invert when people’s retort is “up is up and down is down, your weird”

Do you invert?

Why?



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37 comments | showing # 1 to 37
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Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 12:17
Elsa
I don't, but my husband does! :)
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 12:34
pedrovay2003
I invert ONLY if flying is involved, i.e., Star Fox or gliding in Batman: Arkham Asylum. I will not submit to the gaming sin of reversing the controls for shooters, cameras, or anything else that's not flying.

*sits in corner and foams at mouth*
Rhuno's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 12:41
Rhuno
Yup, I invert. But honestly, I couldn't give you a real reason why; it just feels natural to me. I've even tried to force myself to use normal controls because I thought perhaps it would make it easier to aim on a diagonal. However, I just could NOT get the hang of it. Eventually I gave up and returned to inverted controls.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 12:43
mix
@Elsa
My "wife" does not invert either!

@pedrovay2003
Lol, I invert flying games as well...
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 12:46
Mr Andy Dixon
I invert, and everyone I know in real life (save for one person) does as well. Not sure why (other than it just feels right), but I think you might be on to something with this:

"If I was physically holding a gun and I wanted to aim upward, I would have to lower my right hand and if I wanted to aim down I would have to raise my right hand up. This translates in my mind to moving my thumb down in FPS game to aim up and moving my thumb up for aiming down."

Either that, or our brains are just wired differently than the "normal" people :)
Gnarlythotep's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 12:46
Gnarlythotep
For me, I only invert when I'm using a classic joystick for most flight/space sims. For analogs, I've never bothered (not every game allows you to change, so I never got in the habit).
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 12:47
Occams electric toothbrush
I don't invert. Feels weird, like Uncle Lazarus' tea parties.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 12:55
mix
@Rhuno
I tried as well as Silent Hill Homecoming forced me to do so but I will pulling hair after an hour of trying, no dice.

@mrandydixon
lol...backwards just are we maybe, Yeah.

@Gnarlythotep
I have come to expect the option in every game now as I just can't do it any other way!

@Occams
The "pants are optinal" tea party?
Caitlin Cooke's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 12:55
Caitlin Cooke
I used to invert, now I don't so much. I think back in the day invert was normal, and I kind of grew out of it. I test it with every game just to make sure, though.
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 13:00
CelicaCrazed
Most games I don't invert. And then there's Warhawk O_O
Gaming in Public's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 13:08
Gaming in Public
My friend invert when we play Black Ops together. He grew up playing flying sims so when he moved over t first person shooters it just felt natural for him.
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 13:40
ScottyG
...

IT'S LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU PEOPLE!!! D:

*runs away screaming*
Alasdair Duncan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 16:53
Alasdair Duncan
I don't invert. It's just how I've gotten used to it. Mind you, I've not really played any games on a console or PC that have vehicles in them since,........ shit Freelancer I think.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 17:27
brainderailment
Nope, unless flying something. Also, I can't stand playing horizontal inverted games. I'm always trying to compensate and I end up doing the opposite.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 18:15
mix
@Leingod
So you invert camera in 3rd person but keep the controls normal in an FPS? I thought I was crazy....lol Good analogy though between the two!

Glad to see that some people invert but I find it off that you would invert flying but not in an FPS becuase I invert both.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 19:17
Chris Carter
I AINT PLAYING A FLIGHT SIMULATOR HERE!

In all seriousness, I only invert flight sims.
Script-br's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 19:38
Script-br
I don't, but I guess it's only because I'm used to mouse controls. I'm like pedrovay2003: I only invert when it's games like Star Fox or such.
FamousSeamus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 19:39
FamousSeamus
I always invert. I blame it on my left handedness
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 21:20
Samit Sarkar
Yes, and I can't really explain why except to say that playing un-inverted is like trying to masturbate with your left hand. In other words, it feels unpleasant, and I'm completely inept at it.
TheDrunkHadou's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 21:26
TheDrunkHadou
Always that initial confusion when playing a game for the first time... DEFAULT? But inverted IS my DEFAULT!
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 23:48
BS3 Owner
Yes, Always! Y-Axis Inverted.
I'm right handed. It feels natural.

I know some people that can't function with it Inverted.
Also, for some reason cannot handle FPS'.
Not to be rude, but they are not the brightest bulbs in the box.

Does anyone here, know someone you doesn't "GET" FPS'.
Kind of creeps me out personally.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/01/2011 23:52
BS3 Owner
*who doesn't
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2011 10:35
mix
@Samit Sarkar
Sometimes the left hand is just needed, feels different yo...lol

@FamousSeamus/BS3 Owner
Both of your right hand/left hand comments cancelled each other out! I am also right handed.

My buddy doesn't really "get" FPS games. He bought Borderlands and deemed it shit after playing for about 20 mins, it's funny watching him try to play though.
Scissors's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2011 15:12
Scissors
Gah I'm the only person here who prefers normal *Hides in shame*

I find myself switching between the two often though, mainly cause I still play Gamecube and PS2 games, and alot of those games force you to use one or the other. I hate having to re-adjust myself to play inverted and then going to back to normal (and vice-versa) it's so disorienting, when I have to do that I usually end up avoiding the c-stick for the first couple of hours of the game cause if I touch it the camera goes crazy and I end up dying because I'm wrestling with the camera as enemies are attacking me.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2011 15:19
Knivy
I hadn't thought about it like your last paragraph, but it makes sense.

When playing an FPS I invert on console, but not on PC. On third person games i think i don't invert if it's only the cam you're moving, but do invert if there's aiming to be done.
Arttemis's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2011 17:13
Arttemis
This could be in the forums for a continued conversation/debate.

I am actually fully capable of switching between the two settings in MGS games when in first-person perspective - but only that series.

And like others say, I absolutely must for flight simulators.
Arch649's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2011 17:30
Arch649
I always invert. I attribute that to X-Wing and all the PC shooters I've played.
mourning orange's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2011 17:51
mourning orange
I used to invert...I always looked at it like this; When I pull down on the stick my character leans back, forward leans forward. The result is pulling back to aim higher, pushing forward to aim down.

Like, back in the day when I played with G.I. Joes, you would lean them back to aim high...god none of this is probably making sense.

I should stop.
Willyum's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2011 21:19
Willyum
i always invert, trying to play "normal" feels like trying to write left handed, it kinda almost works, but not really
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2011 21:31
Wedge
I can do both. Ha ha.
MrFwankie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/02/2011 21:59
MrFwankie
Invert. I'm aiming from behind the camera.

Think of it this way: you pivot your head with your neck, which (for almost all of us) is behind our eyes and face.
T3KK9's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 02:46
T3KK9
I invert. And I get alot of flack for it too
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 10:29
Darren Nakamura
I invert the Y-axis, but I don't invert the X-axis for third person camera control. This has gotten me to hit a snag in Beyond Good & Evil HD, because there are only two options, either normal (up is up, down is down, left is left, right is right) or reversed (up is down, down is up, left is right, right is left). I wish I could adjust the Y-axis and the X-axis separately. It's very jarring that the first person looking works how I want it to, but then the third person camera doesn't act the same way.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 11:26
mix
@Darren Nakamura
That right there lets me know that I could NEVER play Beyond Good & Evil :(
Mr No's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/03/2011 21:24
Mr No
I love reading the comments on how people try to explain why they play inverted. Seriously guys, don't explain. You're all merely freaks of nature. In a cool way.
BrandonUndead's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/06/2011 08:05
BrandonUndead
Invert flight. My buddy inverts everything. It drives me insane. You guys can go walk around on your hands all day if that's what makes you happy, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU RIGHT! Dammit.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/22/2011 12:35
EternalDeathSlayer
Your explanation doesn't make any sense. Not trying to be a dick, but if you want to aim a gun up, both hands go up with any type of gun, unless you wanted to shoot from the hip.
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