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Disapointment and Capcom mean the same thing
michiyoyoshiku | 3:55 PM on 06.26.2008 33 comments


Capcom frequently disapoints me. Like All the time actually.

As you know I was totally thrilled about Mega Man 9. Until today. Not only is coming out on Wiiware.....which alone is epic fail. It's a Rom Hack. A bloody Rom hack we wait 10 years for a new Mega man....and we get THAT

This is what bothers me though. Capcom has been taking old games and giving them fresh coats of paint.

Bionic Commando. Great Game everybody knows it. Old graphics or not it's awesome. But they took this old ass game. with TLC they made it 3d same game yeah but 3d. Added a shitload of stuff they took the old and made it new again.

Then we have SSFII HD REMIX.

They took SF II made it the same exact game we love added to it gave it a fresh coat of paint new sprites and just it's beautiful. Alot of TLC went into it and it's just like butta.

Even Mega Man the very series butchered got new coat of paint Power'd up and Mavrick hunter X are Mega Man fan's wet dreams. X fans get vile. and OG fans get to play as the robot masters. Play as latter day mega man in Mega Man 1. and protoman is finally playable even ROLL. replace the orignial six with six new Robot masters and THAT should've been 9.

But these are just remakes.

Street Fighter IV They got this right. They took everything we loved and wanted in III
added new characters made it 3d but with a style that's still 2d. They're adding more to the home version because the Arcade game is pretty lacking. The HOME VERSION will be the upgrage how awesome is that? We can aruge it's Super ultra Street Fighter II: 3d Remake
and they replaced Cammy, T.Hawk, Fei Long and Dee Jay with El Fuete, Crimson Viper, Abel and Rufus. But they'll be back. 16 is still the biggest default roster for a non spin off SF game.

Mega Man X7 and X8 AGIAN they did something new but kept what made it great.

SO WHY WHY WHY are they making an 8 bit game in 2008?

I don't want a new 8 bit game. there are thousands of 8 bit games and Romhacks. with some practice I could make my own 8 bit mega man and it wouldn't cost me anything and I could play it on my Dreamcast with it's NES emulator.


I don't want 8 bit games anymore. I've moved on. I want new ways to play my old Favorites I want a REAL Classic series mega man with HD Sprites, Animated intros.
ability to play as the robot masters as well as just getting their weapons. I want more than 8 robot masters this time give us 16. Change it up a bit. Mega Man 8 was fantastic I was hoping that would be built on. But this move......shows that capcom doesn't care. Mega Man is nothing more than a cash cow and they won't put the love or effort into make a Mega Man game. They'll just take 20 year old sprites and rework them.

Don't give me that "you're a graphics whore who don't care about good old fashoned games" That answer just gets you a FUCK YOU. I LOVE OLD SCHOOL. But I want New versions of old games. I want to play the games I grew up on in a new way. I don't want to play the games I grew up on in some rehash form 14 years ago.

MEGA MAN IS DEAD.

I bought a PSP for Mavrick Hunter X and Powerd up. Will I buy a wii for this Joke?

HELL NO.

It's not worth hunting down that gimmick box for an 8bit game.



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Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 16:57
Shin Oni
I think you're bitching waaaay too much on yhe Megaman 9 ordeal. Yea it sucks its on wiiware and Capcom is as we all know, fairly lazy to actually put some work into their more well known old school games. Even when new games are announced (i'm looking at you Capcom fighting Jam.) they shit on it by simply copy pasta. They payed for it with shitty sales, disappointment, and everyone riding Neo Geo Battle Colliseium's nuts. Hopefully Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom doesn't do the same.

16 is still the biggest default roster for a non spin off SF game.

uh...Alpha 3? That's not a spinoff. The cast passed 16 last I remembered.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 16:58
Shin Oni
and how the hell can you call Capcom a cashcow when they simply turned down Microsoft twice when they threw money in their faces?
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 17:02
Shin Oni
ok I already phail for 3 posts in a row.

I DO agree with you on the fact they could at least try to work with it. Comparing it to the MMX1 and MM1 remakes, looking at this is a big WTF. It deserves much more than a simple "wiiware launch".

So either capcom's not caring or they're too busy worried about their other bigger games.....or Inafune is too busy working on a way to get Capcom to get Legends 3 made into a game.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 17:07
Tubatic
I'm sorry you feel that way.

For me, Mega Man has never been more alive.
The Timely Howard's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 17:09
The Timely Howard
... It's not like Mega Man 9 is some throwaway game they're working on while they iron out the big guns. They've got those God damned folks at Inti working on making Mega Man 9 as great as it can be-- and Inti guarantees quality. Have you played Mega Man Zero? Have you played Mega Man ZX? God damnit, they were all frickin' radical!

They want it to be reminiscent of traditional NES games? Well boy howdy, that is fine by me. The screens we saw in Nintendo Power look cute, and the 8-bit mode in ZX Advent was actually a hootnanny of a good time! I don't feel like bleeding all over Capcom's dick just because they want to throw me an 8-bit Mega Man-- hell, if anything, I think it's a damn ballsy move. I'm sure they're prepared for this backlash, though. They can take care of themselves.

You don't want to buy Mega Man 9? Don't.

Wait, you mean nobody's forcing you? Holy shit, groundbreaking territory. Let's say you're right-- let's say this game is a heap of shit and nobody bites because of blah blah dick whatever the hell you said-- then the game will fail, they'll make no money and no more classic Mega Man games will be made as a result. Just wait it out.
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 17:16
michiyoyoshiku
Or they'll make the REAL HD XBL PSN Mega Man 9 that we really want.

Capcom doesn't care about you.
SysiphusRock's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 17:28
SysiphusRock
I think you're throwing a little too much hate towards Capcom themselves. I personally am completely disappointed by the prospect of MM9 and the implications of Street Fighter IV. Make a new NES Mega Man to try to get old school fans to buy it. BUT. Ive yet to see the price or the story of the game. So I'm disappointed but not completely out of it as I am with SF4. It's SF2 + 3D + some shitty SNK rip-off characters. GUILE STILL ONLY HAS TWO SPECIAL MOVES. Jesus fucking Christ.

But Biohazard 5? Devil May Cry 4? Lost Planet? Dead Rising? The Mega Man collections? How can you say Capcom AS A WHOLE is so terrible?
madninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 17:42
madninja
Ah...you for one over reacting and two where did you hear about this because as far as I know Inticreates is developing the game. The guys who made Zero ZX.
Brahms's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 17:58
Brahms
Personally, I wouldn't be so bothered by the graphics (Even if they're incredibly lazy- in several screenshots, I see a lot of reused tiles) if the gameplay didn't look exactly the same as the NES games.

Mega Man 7 and Mega Man 8 at least tried something new with each incarnation. I'm waiting for gameplay, but the graphics look terribly disappointing.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 18:04
Y0j1mb0
Wait til the game is out before you start tooting the horn of the Hate Train Michi.. it's only curteous.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 18:16
Shin Oni
GUILE STILL ONLY HAS TWO SPECIAL MOVES. Jesus fucking Christ.

alrighty i'm calling this out. Seeing Guile was a fucking madman in the original SFII. Quick sonic boom recovery, decent spacing, and the man only had 2 moves. What more do you want from the man?

if you want Guile having more moves, go play those silly SF EX games.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 18:16
EternalDeathSlayer
Why are you always looking for something to bitch about? You're really an attention whore.

Capcom = WIN.

WAIT UNTIL IT COMES OUT.

If it sucks, then bitch.

For now, stfuajpg. OK?
SysiphusRock's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 18:23
SysiphusRock
"GUILE STILL ONLY HAS TWO SPECIAL MOVES. Jesus fucking Christ.

alrighty i'm calling this out. Seeing Guile was a fucking madman in the original SFII. Quick sonic boom recovery, decent spacing, and the man only had 2 moves. What more do you want from the man?

if you want Guile having more moves, go play those silly SF EX games"



How about variable height Sonic Booms? Or a move or two more akin to Remy in SF3? Hopefully unique moves will make up for it, because many people only played Guile in early SF2 incarnations for his broken handcuffs throw. I just find him, M. Bison (or Balrog in America), Blanka, Edmond Honda, and other characters VERY boring when compared to Dudley, Necro, Oro, or even Alpha's special guest stars.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 18:26
Shin Oni
I do agree with a better cast than just the original as out of the original SFII cast, i'll only touch Guile and Ryu. But this is the same reason I hoped for a actual SFIV that happens after III. Just so we could see a mix of past, present, and future.

but in the end, I won't care. Just as long as the gameplay itself is as good as everyone keeps saying makes up for it.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 18:31
EternalDeathSlayer
Personally, I think they're one of the best third parties out there. The quality of their games is very consistent, especially of late.

Also, Resident Evil 5.

So in the end, you're once again caught going fishing. You're nitpicking and looking for something to bitch about. Don't you have something better to do?
Zulu's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 19:12
Zulu
As an enormous N.E.S fan I really dig the idea of Capcom making an 8 bit game again, especially a Mega Man title. I've often wondered what it'd be like for a huge video game company to make an 8 bit game again. In this day and age where graphics get pushed and pushed, it's nice to see a title that throws it back for a change.
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 19:32
michiyoyoshiku
But that's just the problem TOO MANY throw backs not enough trying anything new.

The last truely innovative game they did was Dead Rising and it sold well......and they aren't whoring it out.

When there is displaced and unexplainable logic in anything these days I use the term "Capcom Logic"

I'm still waiting for my Xbox Mega Man X collection BTW......
(I have it on Gamecube with the LE controller but I might just get the PS2 version)

That's capcom for ya, tons and tons of annoucements and amazing things......then they go and piss on Mega Man's Legacy by taking the long awaited 9, Making it download only, on a system tons of people own but never play (could be on XBLA and PSN too so yeah) Mega Man 9 should've been HD, with huge sprites they could still look 8-bit but nooo
lets just make an 8 bit game the retro people that can't move on will eat it up....

Riiiiiiight.
SysiphusRock's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 19:36
SysiphusRock
Plus, guy. No offense but SF4 is an ugly ass game. SF2HD makes it look like EX1.
Rhacodactyls's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 19:38
Rhacodactyls
@zulu

Agreed whole heartedly! Capcom making a new Megaman and its going to be 8-bit! That to me is a very good thing, but it would be nice to see it made with some better graphics. I do love my MegaMan tho...hopfully it will be epic.
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 19:40
michiyoyoshiku
I saw the boss names.....they're out of ideas.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 19:40
Jonathan Holmes
A few pointers-

1) Don't title your blog "Dissappointment and Capcom mean the same thing" then talk about how many upcoming Capcom games you aren't dissapointed in (namely, every Capcom game that isn't coming to a Nintendo console).

2) Don't pretend to know that you will hate MM9 after seeing some blurry screenshots and reading second hand information about it. This game will likely come to XBLA and PSN, just as Spacecat predicted, so you'll still get to play it. It will also likely be very cheap, and potentially very fun. A game's graphics are important, but if the gameplay is good, you will like this game, (and feel stupid for publishing this rant).

3) Don't go saying thing like "I could make my own 8-Bit MM9 myself" unless you plan to prove it, because I really, really, really don't think you could.

Making good looking 8-bit sprites isn't that all that easy, nor is making them animate, and all that's nothing compared to composing original 8-bit music, planning fun 2D platforming levels and bosses, programming effective enemy AI, power-ups, etc. This new MM9 will have new sprites, new music, new everything. Just because it looks like a game from 20 years ago doesn't mean it's easy to make.

Hope these pointers help.
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 19:48
michiyoyoshiku
Well I'm already recruiting to make Mega Man 9 myself.
Zulu's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 19:57
Zulu
How do you know they're not going to try something new? All we have seen so far are the graphics. Just because the game is graphically 'backwards', it doesn't mean the game will be as well. I expect that that Mega Man 9 will have the same type of gameplay as the rest of the Mega Man titles, but you never know about what Capcom might do to change up the usual formula. I think it'd be best if we all just wait until the game comes out.

As far as the whole "can't move on" thing. I take offense to that stereotype. I have played alot of games in my life, all mixed with different standards in graphics and presentation. I've also played pretty much every Mega Man title that has come out. When it comes down to graphics anymore I just don't give two shits. They will all most likely look like garbage in 10 years anyways.

Sure, it may be easy to assume that making an 8 bit game is the lazy way out, but it should be valid to also assume that maybe the developers behind this have chosen this style because of their love for the franchise. Mega Man has stylistically been pretty much everywhere on the map now. Mega Man's golden age was in the 8 bit era, maybe the developers are just trying to simulate that experience again.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 20:00
Jonathan Holmes
[sarcasm]Good luck, Mich! Can't wait to play that new Mega Man game your gonna make.[/sarcasm]
ZekeThePlumber's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 20:07
ZekeThePlumber
Overreact much?
Novakaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 20:32
Novakaine
I wonder if all of these people who are bitching at "retro throwbacks" understand just how much it costs to make an "HD" game, and that everyone not-named Nintendo is losing money because of it.
coire's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 20:38
coire
I would explain the following statement, but there are more than enough other people commenting on this blog witrh the same sentiment:

You are part of the problem.

Please excuse me for not backing that up with anything, its late.

Also, I do agree that Capcom has disappointed me before (No REZero on Wii in PAL? WTF?!) But still, Capcom plans to release a game with little details revealed to date and you don't like it so you complain? No need to blog/bitch about it, just don't buy the damned game.
Arttemis's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 21:01
Arttemis
Good god, I think I got off at hyperbole station!
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 21:43
michiyoyoshiku
and nintendo has lost touch with it's core audience.

Everyone that isn't Sega and EA and Ubi soft are idiots.
SysiphusRock's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 22:54
SysiphusRock
????????????


You realize those are three of the most horrid developers in gaming today right?
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/27/2008 07:37
michiyoyoshiku
But they have the right idea.

We make a game everybody gets it.

and Ubi Soft has some great developers.
SysiphusRock's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/27/2008 14:36
SysiphusRock
What? Recycle sports games and Sonic's shitty friends yearly to make money? It may be a good business idea, but I don't care for it.
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/27/2008 15:35
michiyoyoshiku
Sega bangs out a few good games every now and then.

coughsegarallycough

plus they remade Nights for the PS2 in Japan.
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