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The easy thing to do is to turn on your 360 while those games install, and then check back when you actually want to play your PS3. For some of us that's often, but for others not so much.
I picked up Wipeout too. That install was hilarious.
I picked up Wipeout too. That install was hilarious.
I think that's honestly the "funniest" part. I love the exclusives the PS3 has. For what it was, I enjoyed Little Big Planet. Infamous made a great contrast to Prototype. I've even dipped my toes into the MAG and Resistance pools a few times, and obviously I've played MGS4. It's just that right now, no matter how good those upcoming exclusives look, I'm pretty much done.
I've got no willpower to work with my PS3. I just want to shut my trap and play some games, but I can't even do that.
The Wipeout thing wasn't hilarious, it was just freaking depressing. Sony has me so apathetic about the whole mess that I don't even WANT to download the second free PS3 game or the two free PSP games.
I've got no willpower to work with my PS3. I just want to shut my trap and play some games, but I can't even do that.
The Wipeout thing wasn't hilarious, it was just freaking depressing. Sony has me so apathetic about the whole mess that I don't even WANT to download the second free PS3 game or the two free PSP games.
I have never heard of anything like "missing a vital part" of a downloadable game on PSN. I'm calling shenanigans!
Also, no shit you will have to update the game before you start it. When do you think an update is going to pop up and ask you to install? While you're racing? When you're about to turn the system off. The whole point of the update system is so that no glitchers and hackers can mess up the game, and so you don't run into any bugs/glitches while playing. So they put it at the start of the game. You do realize that WipeoutHD has been out for years now, right? Of course it will have updates.
You freaking out over something like this is pretty funny, chill out man. Sony won't miss you, it is your loss.
Also, no shit you will have to update the game before you start it. When do you think an update is going to pop up and ask you to install? While you're racing? When you're about to turn the system off. The whole point of the update system is so that no glitchers and hackers can mess up the game, and so you don't run into any bugs/glitches while playing. So they put it at the start of the game. You do realize that WipeoutHD has been out for years now, right? Of course it will have updates.
You freaking out over something like this is pretty funny, chill out man. Sony won't miss you, it is your loss.
Hey, I know what you mean. I ditched my PS3 stuff after my first YLOD. Sold all the games and accessories off. Went back to my PS2. Never looked back.
You have 500 PS2 games?! Nice! I only have like 230 myself, but I'm still finding new stuff to play on it, so I'll still be buying games for it for a long while.
I remember a Dtoid article a few weeks back about Sony saying their next console will be simpler. I'm extremely doubtful about that one, since they only way they could make it simpler (and as awesome as the PS1 or PS2) would be to take out all the stupid multimedia and network functions, but then that would go against everything Sony is about (computer entertainment, consoles doing everything and whatnot) and I don't see them doing that.
You have 500 PS2 games?! Nice! I only have like 230 myself, but I'm still finding new stuff to play on it, so I'll still be buying games for it for a long while.
I remember a Dtoid article a few weeks back about Sony saying their next console will be simpler. I'm extremely doubtful about that one, since they only way they could make it simpler (and as awesome as the PS1 or PS2) would be to take out all the stupid multimedia and network functions, but then that would go against everything Sony is about (computer entertainment, consoles doing everything and whatnot) and I don't see them doing that.
@PlanetPanton
I was thinking that the game I'd downloaded not less than an hour ago would have had the update patched into the damned thing. This is the same reason I jumped ship and stopped gaming on PC as a whole. I don't want shit-tons of updates and crap. I want to buy my game, put it in, and worst-case scenario, I download a tiny patch which takes less than a minute to get me from "Oh, update" to pressing start.
As for missing me... On average, I buy a game or two a week. Usually it works out to about fifty new games a year or so. On the one hand, I'm a single consumer. I don't shift stock prices or anything on my own. On the other hand... I pour roughly $10,000 a year into the games industry, and Sony's just made sure that they're not going to see a dime of it for a couple years because of their mistakes.
And it's not me freaking out over this one thing. It's the constant annoyances. If I've got to turn on my Xbox so I can kill time until I play my PS3, why not just cut the middleman out and not bother with the PS3 at all? Why do I go from installing a game, and then to minutes-long updates beside when I get home from the store a week after a game has launched?
Basically, I'm sick of my entertainment being a given investment of my time before I can even play my games. I'm sick of Sony's piss-poor management of their online service and the fact that something as simple as cueing SYSTEM UPDATES during the dead of night when I'm not using the console is part of a fucking premium package.
@Master Snake
Yeah, easily 500 or more. Before I packed them away, I filled seven eighty-unit DVD shelves with my games. 7 x 80 = 560, so...
I was thinking that the game I'd downloaded not less than an hour ago would have had the update patched into the damned thing. This is the same reason I jumped ship and stopped gaming on PC as a whole. I don't want shit-tons of updates and crap. I want to buy my game, put it in, and worst-case scenario, I download a tiny patch which takes less than a minute to get me from "Oh, update" to pressing start.
As for missing me... On average, I buy a game or two a week. Usually it works out to about fifty new games a year or so. On the one hand, I'm a single consumer. I don't shift stock prices or anything on my own. On the other hand... I pour roughly $10,000 a year into the games industry, and Sony's just made sure that they're not going to see a dime of it for a couple years because of their mistakes.
And it's not me freaking out over this one thing. It's the constant annoyances. If I've got to turn on my Xbox so I can kill time until I play my PS3, why not just cut the middleman out and not bother with the PS3 at all? Why do I go from installing a game, and then to minutes-long updates beside when I get home from the store a week after a game has launched?
Basically, I'm sick of my entertainment being a given investment of my time before I can even play my games. I'm sick of Sony's piss-poor management of their online service and the fact that something as simple as cueing SYSTEM UPDATES during the dead of night when I'm not using the console is part of a fucking premium package.
@Master Snake
Yeah, easily 500 or more. Before I packed them away, I filled seven eighty-unit DVD shelves with my games. 7 x 80 = 560, so...
Protrip, When downloading huge games, use the download Queue. This is no different from 360, unless of course you pay. Which I don't... and let's just say Live Silver should be named "the fuck are you even doing on our network anyway, untouchable?" But in general, here's the trick to dealing with this (because, no offense, this is Steam, 360, Stardock, and many more... this pain in the ass isn't a Sony exclusive).
1. Load up your queue with a ton of content.
2. Play your games right now, ignore the big game purchases you just made. Just leave them in your queue.
3. When you're done gaming, return to the XMB and use the option on the left to turn off the machine. You'll receive a message asking to finish downloading the content before turning off. This option not only downloads and turns the machine off when done, it automatically installs.
Of course you have your free Playstation Plus option which, when toggled, will download the updates of games selected automatically overnight. It's not a free option but neither is Xbox Live.
But here is my problem with your attitude in general.
A. You STARTED expecting the fuckup. Bitching going in means you WILL find a reason to bitch. Discovering the unlock code is a seperate downlaod from the demo and the DLC is seperate as well SEEMS excessively retarded, unless you actually buy DD games. As in, at all. It's this way commonly on Xbox Live, it's this way on Steam. Hell, it's this way on GOG and that's 10-15 year old games. If this is new to you, I really don't know where the hell you've been downloading your games.
B. Patches and updates suck. Worse yet, nobody rolls patches into the base game. NOBODY. World of Warcraft doesn't, nothing on Steam does it, hell, I recently popped in an Xbox 360 game and had to go through a parade of 5 updates on a 3 year old game. So once again, your basis for comparison exists in some strange Xanadu I've never encountered.
C. You don't HAVE to update before you play. Look at that bottom right corner of the screen. HOLY FUCK, CANCEL?!? THEY BUILT THAT SHIT IN HERE? Yes, like on Xbox 360, you can simply refuse the patches if you want to play immediately. The downside is you can't play online but that's the same caveat 360 offers.
In essence, you went in expecting failure, you found it. You get a free game and still you find reason to bitch with the same problems that exist on the console you're dumping Sony for. The very notion that you went into this getting ready to give Sony a chance to wow you is 100% frabrication. You, sir, just wanted to be a cunt.
1. Load up your queue with a ton of content.
2. Play your games right now, ignore the big game purchases you just made. Just leave them in your queue.
3. When you're done gaming, return to the XMB and use the option on the left to turn off the machine. You'll receive a message asking to finish downloading the content before turning off. This option not only downloads and turns the machine off when done, it automatically installs.
Of course you have your free Playstation Plus option which, when toggled, will download the updates of games selected automatically overnight. It's not a free option but neither is Xbox Live.
But here is my problem with your attitude in general.
A. You STARTED expecting the fuckup. Bitching going in means you WILL find a reason to bitch. Discovering the unlock code is a seperate downlaod from the demo and the DLC is seperate as well SEEMS excessively retarded, unless you actually buy DD games. As in, at all. It's this way commonly on Xbox Live, it's this way on Steam. Hell, it's this way on GOG and that's 10-15 year old games. If this is new to you, I really don't know where the hell you've been downloading your games.
B. Patches and updates suck. Worse yet, nobody rolls patches into the base game. NOBODY. World of Warcraft doesn't, nothing on Steam does it, hell, I recently popped in an Xbox 360 game and had to go through a parade of 5 updates on a 3 year old game. So once again, your basis for comparison exists in some strange Xanadu I've never encountered.
C. You don't HAVE to update before you play. Look at that bottom right corner of the screen. HOLY FUCK, CANCEL?!? THEY BUILT THAT SHIT IN HERE? Yes, like on Xbox 360, you can simply refuse the patches if you want to play immediately. The downside is you can't play online but that's the same caveat 360 offers.
In essence, you went in expecting failure, you found it. You get a free game and still you find reason to bitch with the same problems that exist on the console you're dumping Sony for. The very notion that you went into this getting ready to give Sony a chance to wow you is 100% frabrication. You, sir, just wanted to be a cunt.
@ Sheppy
What game 360 game required 5 updates? I've never experienced that, and I've played a fuckton of games, old and new. Sounds like a spring or fall sytem update to me, and even for that 5 sounds exaggerated.
As far as for the blog, I've just accepted that certain things on my PS3 are going to take forever to download and install, so I just use the shut down after downloading thing. People get defensive about such PS3 criticisms, but the fact is, it downloads many things slow as shit, and there is NO reason for the slow extra step of installation after the download. Xbox doesn't do it, hell the humble Wii doesn't do it! Plus, many games have a 3 part patch AND a 3 part installation! It's a shit method. If you argue against that, you are full of shit. Jesus, pop in MAG or SOCOM Confrontation for example, and tell me download speed & installation isn't an issue. It's ridiculous, I can download a 2 GB demo on 360 in a half-hour or faster, on PS3 I have to leave it on for hours. Something is fucky there.
But... all that being said, it doesn't mean I "hate" my PS3; I don't prefer it, but I still love it. It does a lot of cool shit, and has some great games. That doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to hate certain aspects of it (oh god, the load times and lack of native 1080p upscaling... oh, and the shitty chat and...). Meteorscrap here expressed his opinion and he has a right to it, his points are all valid, and just because some people for whatever reason disagree, are ignorant of the alternative console's methods or even just don't like his sassy tone, it doesn't make him wrong. It just means... he mad. <3
What game 360 game required 5 updates? I've never experienced that, and I've played a fuckton of games, old and new. Sounds like a spring or fall sytem update to me, and even for that 5 sounds exaggerated.
As far as for the blog, I've just accepted that certain things on my PS3 are going to take forever to download and install, so I just use the shut down after downloading thing. People get defensive about such PS3 criticisms, but the fact is, it downloads many things slow as shit, and there is NO reason for the slow extra step of installation after the download. Xbox doesn't do it, hell the humble Wii doesn't do it! Plus, many games have a 3 part patch AND a 3 part installation! It's a shit method. If you argue against that, you are full of shit. Jesus, pop in MAG or SOCOM Confrontation for example, and tell me download speed & installation isn't an issue. It's ridiculous, I can download a 2 GB demo on 360 in a half-hour or faster, on PS3 I have to leave it on for hours. Something is fucky there.
But... all that being said, it doesn't mean I "hate" my PS3; I don't prefer it, but I still love it. It does a lot of cool shit, and has some great games. That doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to hate certain aspects of it (oh god, the load times and lack of native 1080p upscaling... oh, and the shitty chat and...). Meteorscrap here expressed his opinion and he has a right to it, his points are all valid, and just because some people for whatever reason disagree, are ignorant of the alternative console's methods or even just don't like his sassy tone, it doesn't make him wrong. It just means... he mad. <3
@sheppy
A) No, no it's not. On Xbox Live, unless you've downloaded the game as a demo first, you don't have to cue up the unlock code for the full game separately. You can pick to buy the game right off, sight unseen, and if you do, you download the full game with no fuss or muss. Ditto Nintendo Wii downloads. Sony is the only console manufacturer who has fucked up this simple, but helpful step.
As far as bitching going in goes... What, I'm expected to take a shit sandwich and enjoy it? Why can't the installation, if I have to endure it, roll in any updates that need to be made as part of one process? Why do I have to click over to the next screen after I've walked away only to come back and find I've got to find other shit to do AGAIN before I can play the fucking thing? It's bullshit, and I'm calling it what it is.
I just want to shut up and play games, but Sony can't even let me do that one.
B) There's why I rag on Sony like there's no tomorrow, and it's simply because Microsoft does something Sony does not: It severely limits the update size. Four megs. That's all the developers get. In today's day and age, that means that I've downloaded the update, usually in thirty seconds or less, and then there's no subsequent installation after the game resets. The net result is that I've lost maybe 45 seconds of my time in between booting the game up and actually hitting start, even if I'm hitting start on the online multiplayer portion.
As for the multiple title updates, I'm calling flat-out bullshit on that one. Microsoft policy is that any previous title updates have to be included within the newest one. So it's literally impossible to download multiple title updates right in a row.
The only way that could have appeared to have happened would be: The latest Spring/Fall Update (one of the two, since like Title Updates, they also are always rolled into the latest version), then the progress bar as the avatars are checked (which is not an update but does take a minute or two), then maybe a title update once you started the game. Unless you threw in one of the fully optional installations in there, that's a max of three things at most.
And unless you're only playing your Xbox once every six months, all you've got to deal with are the 4 meg title updates, which take less than a minute total.
C) Holy shit, I can? It's almost like I didn't care because I'm interested in taking my gaming online! Gasp! Shock and awe!
I didn't go into it expecting failure, but Sony somehow managed to add an extra step to the frustration, and honestly speaking I haven't had to deal with any of this bullshit over the last month and a half because I haven't touched my PS3. This simply reminded me why that's been the case.
A) No, no it's not. On Xbox Live, unless you've downloaded the game as a demo first, you don't have to cue up the unlock code for the full game separately. You can pick to buy the game right off, sight unseen, and if you do, you download the full game with no fuss or muss. Ditto Nintendo Wii downloads. Sony is the only console manufacturer who has fucked up this simple, but helpful step.
As far as bitching going in goes... What, I'm expected to take a shit sandwich and enjoy it? Why can't the installation, if I have to endure it, roll in any updates that need to be made as part of one process? Why do I have to click over to the next screen after I've walked away only to come back and find I've got to find other shit to do AGAIN before I can play the fucking thing? It's bullshit, and I'm calling it what it is.
I just want to shut up and play games, but Sony can't even let me do that one.
B) There's why I rag on Sony like there's no tomorrow, and it's simply because Microsoft does something Sony does not: It severely limits the update size. Four megs. That's all the developers get. In today's day and age, that means that I've downloaded the update, usually in thirty seconds or less, and then there's no subsequent installation after the game resets. The net result is that I've lost maybe 45 seconds of my time in between booting the game up and actually hitting start, even if I'm hitting start on the online multiplayer portion.
As for the multiple title updates, I'm calling flat-out bullshit on that one. Microsoft policy is that any previous title updates have to be included within the newest one. So it's literally impossible to download multiple title updates right in a row.
The only way that could have appeared to have happened would be: The latest Spring/Fall Update (one of the two, since like Title Updates, they also are always rolled into the latest version), then the progress bar as the avatars are checked (which is not an update but does take a minute or two), then maybe a title update once you started the game. Unless you threw in one of the fully optional installations in there, that's a max of three things at most.
And unless you're only playing your Xbox once every six months, all you've got to deal with are the 4 meg title updates, which take less than a minute total.
C) Holy shit, I can? It's almost like I didn't care because I'm interested in taking my gaming online! Gasp! Shock and awe!
I didn't go into it expecting failure, but Sony somehow managed to add an extra step to the frustration, and honestly speaking I haven't had to deal with any of this bullshit over the last month and a half because I haven't touched my PS3. This simply reminded me why that's been the case.
You have enough time to play 50 games a year and you're complaining about Sony wasting your time? Right...
Who said anything about play? Sometimes the game I pick up is, say, Vampire Rain or Legendary. Games that don't occupy my time much, because of the quality (or lack thereof). Finishing every game I buy would be psychotic, and I have no time for it.
As far as the purchases go, it's only a game or two a week. I can generally expect to spend a couple evenings gaming, and maybe half a day to a day on the weekend. Sometimes that's multiplayer, where I'm playing Halo: Reach or something, and sometimes that's a new singleplayer game, like Bulletstorm. Either way, I've got relatively little responsibilities and most of my friends game anyway. Hell, my girlfriend games as well.
And it's not my time being wasted that I object to. It's my time being wasted in a manner I don't find entertaining. Given that gaming systems are designed to entertain, it seems like a waste of money if they can't do that correctly.
Everybody has a hobby. Gaming, believe it or not, is mine. When you don't have a lot of obligations beyond your job, you can find a lot of time to fill with that hobby.
As far as the purchases go, it's only a game or two a week. I can generally expect to spend a couple evenings gaming, and maybe half a day to a day on the weekend. Sometimes that's multiplayer, where I'm playing Halo: Reach or something, and sometimes that's a new singleplayer game, like Bulletstorm. Either way, I've got relatively little responsibilities and most of my friends game anyway. Hell, my girlfriend games as well.
And it's not my time being wasted that I object to. It's my time being wasted in a manner I don't find entertaining. Given that gaming systems are designed to entertain, it seems like a waste of money if they can't do that correctly.
Everybody has a hobby. Gaming, believe it or not, is mine. When you don't have a lot of obligations beyond your job, you can find a lot of time to fill with that hobby.
Sony does have some work to do in this direction... though I think with the store specficially that they really are just a "store" and it's up to the dev as to how they want to present their package regarding updated versions or separate updates. I agree with Sheppy about queuing and letting most of it happen over night - so much easier.
