Quantcast
Community Discussion: Blog by manasteel88 | Teh Bias: Nippon Ichi Software, Dood!Destructoid
Teh Bias: Nippon Ichi Software, Dood! - Destructoid

DestructoidJapanatorTomopopFlixist





click to hide banner header
About


Front Paged:
E for Effort: Mass Effect 1+2
E3 2010 Recap
Changes: Fatherhood
Technical Difficulties: What A Difference Time Makes
A True Opponent Stands Before Me
P2 Press Start: Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers
10 Games Captain America Would Play
Looking Out for the Little Guy

Front Paged on Flixist:
The Dichotomy of a Dark Knight
Not Understanding Your Audience
A True Classic: Superman Returns

Articles I wrote that I liked:
That One Mook: Gafgarion
My first playthrough of Resident Evil 2
Love/Hate: Operation Darkness
EVO 2010
Recettear Preview
Teh Bias: Nippon Ichi Software, Dood!
More Than Just Noise: Haunted by Final Fantasy
2010: Year in review and some other musings
Obligatory Destructoid Community Rocks Post
Groundhog Day: Stuck in a Book
A story from the Wasteland
PowerUp 2011
E3 2011: MS, Sony, Ninty, and AWARDS
Freedom: Jetpacks
Handhelds: East vs West
Labor Day: Player 2
Online Passes: Nickles and Dimes
2011: Year in Review and Top 10 XBL Indies



Twinfinite stuff I wrote that I liked:
Comics:
Before Watchmen: It's Not the End of the World
Retrospection: The X-Men vs The Avengers
DC Kills Again
Lists:
10 Reliable XBLIG Devs You Should Know
10 Disney Classics that Need Remastering
5 Best Moments from EVO 2013
5 Reasons Why the PS2 Was So Successful
5 Ways to Add Flavor to PS Allstars
Editorials:
Did We Really Need to Break Lara Croft?
Father's Day: Bass Armstrong
Why Do We Need Final Fantasy 7 HD?
Wormlight: A Group of No Name Losers
You Can't Fix Bad Parenting
You Don't Deserve Forgiveness
A Forgotten Hero
Future Diary: The Trial of the Father
Silver Haired Devils: Sephiroth, Magneto, Griffith
Sony Made Art Out of Ads
Celebrate the Ridiculousness of Games
The Graying of Gaming
What is Your Deserted Island Game?
An Opinion on How Value is Underappreciated in Gaming
Lazy Brain Games Legacy
Arkham Knight's Knightfall
Next-Gen Gamers: Kinect Party
Interviews:
An Interview with Adam Spragg
An Interview with Miguel Sternberg
An Interview with Nekros Lead Designer
An Interview with Divekick's Adam Heart
An Interview with The Behemoth's Ian Moreno
An Interview with Firebase Studios
An Interview with Lazy Brain Games: Part 1 / Part 2
An Interview with Fun Infused Games
Nonsense:
Should I Be Happy Sonic is Selling Me Insurance
Is the $99 Xbox Worth It?
These Games Don't Belong on Steam?
Quest for Sexy Seaside Beachball: Part 1 / Part 2


Comics in Games
Comics in Games: Games in Comics
Comics in Games: The Original Batman
Comics in Games: Fantastic Four
Comics in Games: Fantastic Four Deleted Scenes
Comics in Games: Superman
Comics in Games: The Best of Marvel 1994

Comics in Crossover Games
- Spider-man and Captain America in Dr. Doom's Revenge!
- Spider-man the Video Game
- Spider-man and the X-men in Arcade's Revenge
- Marvel Super Heroes: War of the Gems
- Iron Man and X-O Manowar in Heavy Metal
- Marvel Brothel
- Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe
- Batman: The Brave and the Bold


It Came From The Quarter Bin

- 1st Edition
- Promised Vengeance
- Sarah's Story Remembered
- First Strike! Extra!
- Fluffie Kiss
- 2112
- The Holiday Spirit
- Days of GLX-Mas Past



Games Created:
Dariaia
Twinfinite Pirate Kart


I was on a podcast! Listen to me!
NJ EP 01: Neo Geo Pocket Color
NJ EP 04: Mega Man Legends


Episode 92: E3 09
Episode 73: Intro
Episode 71: Intro
Episode 70: Intro
Episode 68: Sonic the Hedgehog
Episode 67: Intro
Episode 66: Intro
Episode 65: Reader Questions
Episode 64: Intro
Episode 63: Neo Geo
Episode 62: Intro
Episode 61: Beat 'em Ups
Episode 60: Rhythm Games
Episode 36: Couples
Episode 34: TurboGrafx 16
Episode 32: SHMUPS
Episode 27: SNES



My Greatest Failure

"We constantly have to revisit 'Why would Donkey Kong do this?' or 'Why would this environment be like this?' And then we start thinking: 'We're making a game about a gorilla wearing a tie.'"
-Michael Kelbaugh of Retro Studios on Donkey Kong Country Returns



"I have to say it's kinda scary how much you know about this game."
-Nicolau Chaud creator of Marvel Brothel
Player Profile
Follow me:
manasteel88's sites
Badges
Following (24)  




I first heard of Disgaea: Hour of Darkness and Nippon Ichi Software through Gamepro magazine in 2003. It was hailed as the second coming of Final Fantasy Tactics and my interests were piqued. I didn't know much about the game other than an overstated unique humor on top of standard isometric strategy gameplay. The holy bringers of translations, Atlus, brought the game over that August and I probably got around to it a year or so later. The single piece of marketing that finally made this a must have game was the amazing Tsunami Bomb trailer.

Honestly, my life with the JRPG has been slow. I first got a whiff of the genre through rentals of Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG, and Final Fantasy VI. Sadly though, the only times I really had the chance to play those were when I had to split the console among other family members, making them extremely short lived experiences. Beyond the Beyond was the first JRPG I ever got a chance to truly sit down with and I didn't enjoy it.

Then everyone's favorite stomping ground, Final Fantasy VII, arrived and I rented the game half a dozen times before finally owning a copy. Following that, I bought into everything Squaresoft, eventually stumbling upon my favorite game Final Fantasy Tactics. That game pushed me into loving a genre I'd never had the chance to explore.

So as an unaware SRPG enthusiast, I was impressed by Disgaea. Which was made by some unknown Japanese team and translated by some other relatively unknown company. I found the translation to be above par, and the gameplay to be different and over-the-top enough to truly become enjoyable. Of course this being the first true Atlus game I'd owned, I had no idea where their translation quality truly lied. Thankfully, it was excellent throughout.

Disgaea offered something unique in the combo system, characters and job system that is different than any other games like it. Sure the characters might be outlandish, but they are still fantastic. The job system might be maddening with the restarts, but the customization is pretty intense. The game offers so many unique builds on top of the central job system, that it revitalized the entire genre. My only major issue with the game is an unreasonable hatred towards throwing my characters (even if doing so can make them explode).

So I was walking around my local Best Buy one day and stumbled across a PS2 game that looked oddly similar to Disgaea. At the $19.99 price tag, I picked it up flipped it over a few times and finally walked out of the store with it. This wasn't Disgaea. Disgaea plays like Final Fantasy Tactics. This played like something familiar, yet all together different. The voice acting wasn't really compelling, but I was sold on the gameplay.



Disgaea offered a sense of plain silliness with the amount of customization, but it was never entirely forced upon you. Phantom Brave offered the customization in a much more direct route. The characters you interact with all have a unique job that works with in the game's world. Healer's heal both inside and outside of battle while Merchant's sell you new items. I've never really had my own party ever help me outside of battle before. It's kinda neat.

The battle system is completely grid-less. This is also something that I had yet to experience in the genre. The main character confines characters to items with a purpose of either claiming it or boosting the attributes of those characters. These items are in a class of their own as you eventually own hundreds of them, all with different abilities that can be mastered and with unique titles that boost attributes. The whole item system is so complex that I find myself just boggled down in item management for longer than it takes some battles to take place. For many that's probably a bad thing, for me though it is bliss.

So with Disgaea and Phantom Brave in my collection, it was time to move up to Disgaea 2 and see how that game fared for me. Sequelitis definitely popped its head up as the characters and classes never had the same bite as the original did. Though with that problem, there was enough new that I could brush those faults aside.



I had really enjoyed NIS games up until this point, but it wasn't until Soul Nomad & the World Eaters came out that I truly found out why I loved this company. Soul Nomad isn't my favorite game from NIS. Mostly because it isn't in a sub-genre that I traditionally liked to play as I never got into the original Ogre Battle when it had come out. Something about Soul Nomad did however sell me on this style of game.

Starting off, the main character really brings back that attitude Laharl had in Disgaea. This was comforting as I was very unsure of how I would like the battle system. Playing some of the early Advance Wars games really helped to relieve this as it plays out on the map in similar fashion, just with more depth in unit customization and interaction. I found myself finally enjoying it. All these experiences turned this game into something interesting and fun.

These three games had each attacked the genre in very different ways that really brought with it a sense of appreciation for Strategy RPGs. I wanted to know more about what this company could bring to me. The companies American branch turned me on to smaller Japanese studios like Gust. This local branch seems to make me excited for the new games that I hope will get localized. Heck, I've even watched all of Hayarigami's live-action horror movies for the DS series that at one point may have been considered for localization. I mean why else would NIS translate all the movies?



It was the accumulation of all these things that sold me on where NIS really belongs to me as a company. I respect them for keeping me excited about a genre I really enjoy, in ways I wouldn't think I'd enjoy it. Shame a lot of other people really rag on the company. There seems to be a lot of things to rag on for a company that hardly existed this side of the globe 6 years ago.

NIS has done some really cool things through its American branch. They localized the tsundere epic Toradora. They localized a series that fans have been clamoring for a decade, Sakura Wars. They've brought many Gust titles that would most definitely have stayed over in Japan. All of this and single handedly reinvigorating the SRPG in North America is a pretty tall order for a company established extremely late in 2003.

In 7 years of translating they've also had numerous problems. Stupid legal problems with Tim Langdell and Warner Bros (a lame pun is not something to get a legal department involved with) have forced name changes and halts in production of a few items. Bad production led to a few of the anime dvd's for Persona and Toradora to suffer slight ghosting issues. Bad QA led to Ar Tonelico 2 having a small issue of crashing (it can be avoided) because it uses too much memory for the PS2 to handle.

Those are production issues and simple bad luck. They are legitimate complaints from consumers. Oddly the loudest complaints don't seem to be from those issues. The biggest issue most people seem to have are how antiquated the games look. Apparently 2d sprites are a mixed bag for some. It's ok to be 2d in shmups, fighters and Mega Man games. Those are apparently niche enough to get away with it. RPGs aren't. People complain about the low-res sprites, but their complexity has improved dramatically with each new title.

Others complain that the games take too long to finish. I'm not sure how that's a problem, but I guess it's valid. Though Atlus seems to be doing just fine in this regard. I think NIS porting these games to handhelds really removes that issue. I mean, you have to do something while in the bathroom. Why not grind out a SRPG?

People complain about how the Disgaea series never evolved, but if you want something drastically changed from Disgaea then pick up Disgaea Infinite or Prinny: Can I Really Be the Hero? If you want to stay within the genre, pick up Phantom Brave, Soul Nomad, Trinity Universe or wait off until ZHP comes out. If none of that makes you happy, then make your own damn JRPG.

The final complaint is about translation errors in a few games. When a companies main job is to translate a game, its unforgivable. It's also understandable. I've played through translation errors in Capcom games, Square Enix games, Atlus games and many other localizations. They happen. You can only take this experience as a games company and improve upon it.



Of course the thing that really halted NIS's fanfare in America was the release of Cross Edge and Last Rebellion, both PS3 games. One is a Compile Heart game that was made in collaboration with many companies, the other is a Hit Maker title. NIS America picked up Cross Edge believing that a NIS cross up with Namco, Gust and Capcom characters would sell to people, but apparently people thought that idea wasn't a very good one. A 360 port might have come stateside, but many people just seem to respond to the notion as just a horrible idea. I don't listen to the "it's a bad game" argument as I've seen tons of million+ sellers that were just garbage. I still would like to get a copy of the game as I had to buy a PS3 to finally play it. Anybody waiting on that 360 port will have a long wait since it's apparently stuck in Tim Langdell copyright hell. So for the 4 of us praying for a 360 port, you are most likely out of luck. Thanks Tim.

Now, Last Rebellion was a game NIS America had to port over due to licensing contracts. Haru Akenaga of NIS America said that "once we got Last Rebellion we realized it was not the kind of title we should release in the United States because of its quality. I feel really sorry for our customers because we released that title." I will ask you to name one president in gaming that has issued a statement like that about their product while producing a game that is still enjoyable. He ensured that it received low marketing revenue (so as not to confuse the casuals) and was only intended for the niche customers that might have enjoyed it despite the flaws.

Finally, the broadest argument I've come across is that the game maker is just too niche. Maybe it is. At least at the $60 price tag. I can understand that people now want a super high-res experience that probably cost 30 million to make to maybe justify the money a consumer would have to shell out. Though, I can't understand how a game that can take up to 90 or more hours to complete isn't worth $60, but your money isn't my money. I have to say, when NIS America brought Sakura Wars, a game people have been clamoring about for well over a decade, to the Wii at $30 nobody bought it. Many shouted how they wanted dual-audio prior to release. So when it was left on two discs for the PS2, it still sold below expectations.



It saddens me to see where the company is right now. In February of this year the companies stock price dropped from 36,200 Yen to the final closing price of 7,000 Yen. This price was frozen by JASDAQ so it wouldn't plummet even further south. This unfortunately led to the cancellation of 3 unannounced projects (which I can only assume were awesome). Cancelling these games cost the company 21 million Yen.

There are many reasons this happened, but I would argue it was due to the lack of talent to adapt towards this console generation. For a developer that blossomed under the low power of the PS2, we've only seen a sudden drop off with current generation development. The higher costs of dev kits and other development tools with the cost of learning new hardware has probably cut down profits. Meanwhile, game sales have been sluggish for the developer this year with many games failing to reach projections.

Fortunately an improved focus on handheld titles should help the developer recoup their losses. Sadly, once I finally man up to getting a PS3, NIS decides to focus on PSP gaming (AKA the only current console I don't own).



NIS is a company I am biased towards. They make games I want to play. Even when they don't, I'm pretty sure I'll be genuinely surprised by what I get my hands on. From what I've seen, this company tries. It's something that in the world of Activision is a nice thing to see. They have released games nobody wanted to touch. They have expanded in to new markets. They are trying to release games that people are asking for. Sometimes they create games that just arouse people's interests. They even released a game in a genre that has avoided America for far too long.

This is why I am biased and I will always be biased towards a company that tries. NIS has gone through a lot in 20 years in the industry. Over the past decade alone they've had to face and overcome the same things that took companies like Squaresoft 20 years to overcome. Censorship, approaching a world wide audience, recessions, patching, multi-platform releases, ports, hit and miss series all within a decade of North American releases. I really do hope they get out of this funk as a much stronger company, dood.



Is this blog awesome? Vote it up!




Those who have come:



Comments not appearing? Anti-virus apps like Avast or some browser extensions can cause this.
Easy fix: Add   [*].disqus.com   to your software's white list. Tada! Happy comments time again.

Did you know? You can now get daily or weekly email notifications when humans reply to your comments.


Back to Top




All content is yours to recycle through our Creative Commons License permitting non-commercial sharing requiring attribution. Our communities are obsessed with videoGames, movies, anime, and toys.

Living the dream since March 16, 2006

Advertising on destructoid is available: Please contact them to learn more