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PS3 and Backwards Compatibility
manasteel88 | 8:24 PM on 08.19.2009 19 comments




I know this is one blog in a sea of many, but I had an opinion and I had a blog so I guess this will be a look back at the reasons why I don't own a PS3.

Most people cite the fact that the PS3 doesn't have any killer aps. Its never really been an issue of waiting for games as at least once a year a game comes out on the PS3 that would be in my do want list. My issue at the start was the price and the fact that Sony had no idea what they wanted to do with the PS3. Let me clarify that last part through my analysis of the 3 years of PS3.

First its $500 and it plays ps2 games. I'm not gonna pay over 300 for a console regardless of how shiny it is so I figured I'd wait a few years for a price drop (since I have a lot of PS2 games on the back burner) and I'd pick one up when its in my price range. Then they cut it to $400 and took out the backwards compatibility. Jack Tretton tells me to just buy a PS2 along with it if I wanted to play PS2 games. I looked at my mountain of PS2 games and my PS2 and scratched my head. Then they released the 80gb model and it had PS2 bc. I was excited again, but confused as to which PS3s had BC and which didn't. Then they stopped printing those and all my local stores only had non-BC PS3s. Now they reveal a slimmer and uglier (to me) PS3 with no BC at a price point in my range making me only wish I could play my PS2 Atlus games on it (since it takes forever to beat those anyway). Then John Koller says that 80-90% of PS3 purchasers are buying the console to play PS3 games and I sat there and finally said that actually makes sense since I can't figure out which ones play PS2 games and I doubt Jo Shmoe can either.

Many people argue why not just keep the PS2 next to the PS3 and I could always hope that my PS2 keeps working (it won't play the blue bottom discs without sounding like a tornado), but if I'm going to invest in a Playstation console in 2009/2010 I'd sure like it to play that mountain of old games I have.

I've also read through forum after forum that (for some reason they think this is actually relevant to the PS3) the 360 isn't truly backwards compatible and well, the 360 didn't really have much to worry about with backwards compatibility since they really didn't have too many Xbox games that were truly worth being compatible. The ones that were worth it were either multi-platform or eventually available on the 360 (except for Oddworld Stranger's Wrath somebody make that BC). I can also say that I've bought Psychonauts, Fable and Conker for my 360 and not my Xbox (which is now exclusively a DVD player), so I do play xbox games on my 360. I've also been stockpiling PS2 games (since they keep making them) and I'd like to play them on my upcoming future tech.

I'm sure many people would say that I'm not in Sony's demographic and that's probably false. I don't own an HD TV so I'm not looking for Blu-Ray, but I have owned nearly every console that has come out since the NES (except for the Gamecube which is why I bought a Wii) so I think I am a part of some demographic of theirs.

EDIT:
Totally wanted to make this image after I made this blog post which led to a decision to just post my gamer setup. It used to be nicer...but then I had a kid and well my game room was reduced to a corner in the Master Bedroom.




My hollow shell of a game room.

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Tristero's Destructoid Blog
I own an HDTV and I want backwards compatibility on my PS3 even though I already own a PS2 and they're bot currently hooked up to my TV. I want the upscaling and the ability to play my old games through an HDMI cable, something I can't do on the PS2. It sounds silly, but I I want the colors to look as saturated and vibrant as possible and since I've invested in all three (a PS2, a PS3 and an HDTV) I feel like they should all play nice and work together for my benefit. I really hope Sony introduces a backwards compatibility firmware update some time soon.
Puppy Licks's Destructoid Blog
@Tristero: Seconded.
de BLOO's Destructoid Blog
Thirded
Daxelman's Destructoid Blog
Forth, but my reason is that I fear that my PS2 is going to die soon, and I'll go bat shit insane and start slitting the throats of Sony Employee's first born children if I have to put down 100 bucks for another DRE/laser error.
Volomon's Destructoid Blog
You know Sony just patented a software enabled PS2 emulation, right?

Meaning PS2 emulations will eventually be downloadable. Those that want it download it, those that don't, don't

Just a heads up, from your neighborhood Volomon.
vexed alex's Destructoid Blog
@Volomon: Is that so they can sell us the PS2 games over the internet?
Sonic9jct's Destructoid Blog
Everyone's PS2 sounds like hell when playing the blue PS2 format... probably why you don't see it much outside from reeeally early games.

And I don't see what the big issue about BC is. That didn't become "standard" until this generation, and even then, only the Wii truly does it.
Brlito's Destructoid Blog
@Vexed Alex:

Don't sound so surprised, they're a business. As long as they don't charge us $49 USD for FFX or something I'd be ok with having some downloadables.
manasteel88's Destructoid Blog
@Tristero, PuppyLicks, De Bloo
I was kinda hoping that they'd have added it with the big firmware update (3.0? i dun have a ps3 so I don't know) that took down PSN right before Gamescom. Too bad it didn't come.

@Daxelman
I actually bought a copy of ChuLip after Ashley Davis's Post and since its a CD based PS2 game it ran like a jet turbine. skritching and scratching the whole time. I was afraid it was about to die until I researched it and found it was a laser issue.

@Volomon
Patents are fun things. Sometimes products based on patents never come out.

@Sonic9
It technically became a big thing with the PS2. Before then it was really a non issue and thats why I still have a N64/SNES/wish that I still had my nintendo. Sony had a strong push back in the early part of the PS2's life cycle that PS1 games were not only compatible but played better on a PS2.

Also, updated with my tiny gamer setup. Wii not shown. Its downstairs acting as a makeshift dvd player.
pedrovay2003's Destructoid Blog
I'm in the same exact boat. I have an 80gb software B/C PS3, and I'm not getting the Slim because I don't want to have two consoles hooked up if I don't have to.
Usedtabe's Destructoid Blog
I feel exactly the same, and it annoys me to no end when retarded fanboys don't grasp the concept of wanting it all in one box at the price of $299. I want a Ps3, that plays PS2 games(for upscaling on my HDTV) at a price of $299. Why that is so fucking hard for fanboys to understand I will never know. I have no console loyalty, it's just I know what I want and what I feel it is worth.
pedrovay2003's Destructoid Blog
I agree with Usedtabe.

You know what I'm really sick of? People saying stuff like "Quit bitching and go buy a PS2 if you want to play those games." Well how about all you bastards mail me all your money so I can go buy this console that you're telling me to buy?
s0lesurviv0r's Destructoid Blog
I just want to use my PS3 fight stick on KOFXI, Neo Geo Battle Colliseum, and Guilty Gear Accent Core.
super2j's Destructoid Blog
Looking at the last picture with the ps2 games. I have to say that your taste is pretty close to mine for that row. Most that i could make out were games i own, played or want.

I feel your pain. Last year when i bought my ps3, i did so BECAUSE i found out that bc was being taken out. I swallowed an extra 100 for backwards compatibility, even if its only software(metal gear solid 4 bundle). But i am happy i did so, i pulled out my copy of god of war, changed it to wide screen mode/progressive scan and saw what the quality difference truly is between my hdtv and sdtv. I will say this, there is not that much of a difference in quality when using the upscaler, at least it is not noticeable. In any case just hope that the emulator in my ps3 will be available to all in the future.
BlackSunEmpire's Destructoid Blog
I don't even think that there is an argument here, the people who want you to buy a ps2 have got it all wrong. Sony fucking put BC in their original console, and then downgraded it in subsequent SKU's, with no benefit whatsoever to the consumer. Its bad business management, and consumers have a right to care.

I know for a fact that sony would have already sold me a ps3 if they would remedy this. And I don't think I'm alone.

(Mind you, I suppose this argument is still better than the retard who blogged that you should only play current gen games anyway)
brainderailment's Destructoid Blog
I'm willing to bet that the people at all say 'get a ps2' or 'pay for an older ps3' are people who have ps3s with bc. And one major reason why they say it is because they never play ps2 games. I have a 60gb launchish model and have a whole shelf of ps2 games, but I can't remember the last time I played one. I'm not saying you all are wrong for wanting a 299 bc ps3 with a bartender installed, but I am saying it doesn't make sense why you wouldn't buy a ps3 just for bc. And like someone mentioned earlier, since when was bc a requirement? Ps2 had it, wii has it, and 360 has it. That's 3 consoles on planet earth that have it.
And just because bc doesn't matter to you, that doesn't make you a fanboy.
Mr Wrighty 987's Destructoid Blog
I have a launch 60GB PS3 with B/C and i've only played about 4 PS2 games on out of my 30 PS2 games so i dont really care if the new slim doesn't have it ill still pick one up
Brlito's Destructoid Blog
Same here. If you want BC when you should get a Wii, 100% BC on all systems!
KINGof210's Destructoid Blog
I have a 60GB (upgraded to 160GB) PS3 with hardware B/C (bought in 2007), and I gave my original PS2 "Phat" to my younger sister. About a month ago, I shopped around for a PS2 Slim and bought one for $45.

If you want to play PS2 games, shop around; if you want better upscaling for your PS2 games, shop around for a component cable


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