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Cliff Bleszinski says Metal Gear Solid is "Passive Entertainment"
madninja | 10:53 PM on 06.25.2008 21 comments




Oh Cliff, Oh Cliff why must you do this to me? Well in a recent interview with IGN Cliff Bleszinski, developer over at Epic and king of games, said some backhanded words to a game close to a lot of peoples hearts (mine included). Read what he said:

“Metal Gear Solid is our example of the game we’re not doing. Passive entertainment is on its way out.”

And I can say yes, Solid Snake is not pumping steroids into himself every second to smash some alien bad-guys. Now serious talk, I will agree with him that Metal Gear Solid is not a game Epic should ever make because well you have to have some Kojima crazy in you to make a game like Metal Gear Solid.

We may be taking his words out of context and that is for you guys to decide.

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viralhunter's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2008 23:30
viralhunter
Well he is right that's its passive, the cutscene to gameplay ratio makes it so. But does that matter? I find it entertaining and that's the most important thing that matters.

While I'd prefer if games brought MGS' level of narrative focus in a much more interactive manner, really almost none have. We're getting there, but until GoW has ingame gameplay mindfucks and interior character exploration (or even in their cutscenes for that matter...yesh) I'll take possessing arms and bisexual vampires, thank you very much.
kawitchate's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2008 23:32
kawitchate
if you don't like what he has to say, call him Cliffy B. i hear he hates that.
taumpytears's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2008 23:33
taumpytears
While I can respect Cliffy B. (yeah I called him Cliffy B.) as a talented game maker I think Kojima is more talented. I tend to enjoy Kojima's games more but I can recognize for a certain type of gamer the entire series must seem terrible.
Dynamic Sheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2008 23:52
Dynamic Sheep
The detail put into the "active entertainment" greatly overshadows anything Epic's ever done. There's so much detail and fun packed into the levels (and even cut scenes sometimes) and so many easter eggs to find to keep you going back. I played GoW, beat it, then put it on the shelf. It's been there since. I'm in the middle of my third play through of MGS4, and it hasn't left my PS3 since I bought it.
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 00:03
AngelsDontBurn
So instead we get games that are more of the same. I want to like Gears 2 already, I want to look forward to it. But it doesn't even look like it's worth it. I mean it looks more like an expansion more than anything. They should of just waited and made the original Gears not even exist.

Don't really know if I feel comfortable paying $59.99 for an expansion.
madninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 00:07
madninja
This is just me talking but I feel like Microsoft forced Epic to push out this game because of Resistance 2.
Skribble's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 00:10
Skribble
Obviously Cliffy B has not gotten to the end of Act 4 where...
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*SPOILERS*
..You get to fucking use Metal Gear Rex to battle against Metal Gear Ray at Shadow Moses in, possibly, the -best- mech fight in a video game ever. That fucking segment could be a game unto itself; I saved a separate file so I can replay that segment whenever I want, fuck... that was so good. I am simply waiting for MGO to include a Metal Gear mode....*splooge*
*SPOILERS*
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SunTzu's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 00:25
SunTzu
Clifford is absolutely right.

He always did have a knack for pointing out the obvious.
DarkTravesty's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 00:26
DarkTravesty
hes right. oh and waiting to years for a sequal is being pushed out think before you type resistence 2 is within the same time frame.
madninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 00:30
madninja
I am not saying Resistance 2 is going to be better than Gears of War 2, it is that R2 is a threat and the 360 as of now have no game near the time frame of R2.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 00:54
manasteel88
i gotta say that I actually played GoW more than I played MGS3 so maybe he has a point.

but it doesnt matter since we expect epic to come up with powerhouse games while Kojima's group comes up with intricate stories. I also doubt Cliffy boy was taking a shot at MGS4. I doubt he'd sabotage reputation with sensationalism like that.
Rage Quit's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 01:26
Rage Quit
Only need to read the title. It's okay cliffyB... stick to your senseless violence with no coherent storyline to speak of. Lets hope GOW2 did what the first did... except with a better story
Elandarex's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 01:46
Elandarex
What the hell is with people saying that certain genres or styles of play are "on the out"? Why can't we just play whatever we want without self-absorbed developers like CliffyB and Jaffe telling us what's in? It's really no different than Bill Gates saying that you would never need any more than 670kb of memory in a personal computer. It's just a bone-headed thing to say.
thinkfreemind's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 02:49
thinkfreemind
Who's next to take a shot at MGS, David Jaffe? Listen, I don't give a dang what Cliffy says. Do you know why? It's because Gears of War was a piece of crap (just my opinion). I'm no MGS fanboy by a long shot, but if you were to ask me who I'd rather play as in a game, Solid Snake or Marcus Fenix, I'll pick Snake any day.

Then again, I play RPGs primarily, so I like passive.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 05:20
wardrox
(The source is Ripten just fyi :P)
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 06:40
Jonathan Holmes
For me, the the near perfect game action game would have GoW gameplay but MGS story, character designs, and general sensibilities.

It's sad to hear that CliffyB doesn't agree. GoW is almost intolerably corny. Awful, generic story and character designs.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 07:27
JACK of No Trades
He didn't say anything bad. Did you guys lose all of your brain cells? The reason why he said that is because Gear2 will be more action packed than MGS4. Im at the later part of act four on MGS4 and I love the game, but I do see Gear 2 being more action packed.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 08:56
king3vbo
LIES AND SLANDER
madninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2008 17:59
madninja
Wardrox, what the hell is a Ripten? Is that a place where all emos go to have yellow hair?
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