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So that means you can't release it at all? How stupid. I could see why if it was defending or joking about the Holocaust, but this is an educational game, which is totally different. Someone should make one of those petitions that never work :(
You actually thought nintendo, a company let me remind you that recalled EVERY copy of mario party 8 in the UK because it had the word "spastic" in it once, would let you or anyone based on one of the most horrific and disgusting tragedies to ever happen?
Before you go all defensive no matter how you sugar coat it "oh its his imagination" it brings up bad memories, emotional scars and bad thought of victims or their families. This is what Reprar is trying to point out but because it is your project your are being blind.
Also grow up seriously your just throwing shit and hoping some sticks. If he was obssessed he would need to go see a psychiatrist not a doctor as you pointed out.
Sorry to hear about the game, Luc. I really hope you put it out for PC, unless Sony or M$ are brave enough to do what Ninten-don't.
But one good thing came of this. We found out that the reason Reaprar hates you is apparently he's does not think Nazis are horrible creatures.
Seriously Reaprar, WTF?
And for the record, I think the Call of Duty and Medal of Honor games, or any games that make war "fun", are sort of tasteless.
That goes for war movies as well.
There is a world of difference between "being inspired by" and "stealing". But anyway - I suspect you are arguing for fun now.
Lubernard - but you know Life is Beutiful has been criticized for trivializing the holocaust - and Pans Labyrinth is a cert 15 (in the UK at least). When you say 'children' what are ages are you thinking ?
(I would have used GRave of the Fireflies ... and maybe Maus as starting points for presenting this sort of thing to children)
There is a world of difference between "being inspired by" and "stealing". But anyway - I suspect you are arguing for fun now.
Lubernard - but you know Life is Beutiful has been criticized for trivializing the holocaust - and Pans Labyrinth is a cert 15 (in the UK at least). When you say 'children' what are ages are you thinking ?
(I would have used GRave of the Fireflies ... and maybe Maus as starting points for presenting this sort of thing to children)
WHAT THE HELL....Nintendo Europe sucks balls.
Other than the suggestion of children using a make-believe world to escape an unpleasant real world I can't see other similarity.
However - I can recognize satire when I see it. There is some sarcasm or irony or even parody meant to be included ? I suspect you were exaggerating for comedic effect.
I see we do no know the word exagerrism, good work indeed.
It may be up to parents to decide whether their children can play it - but you do have to provide guidance ? (Pegi etc ?)
You see my main concern (as a parent) is that you may have a game suitable for 10 year olds, with additional content suitable for 14 year olds.
Reaprar, you troll practically every single post Luc has done. It's long past boring now. You're just making yourself look like a complete asshole.
Sorry your game is getting blocked Luc, but it doesn't surprise me sadly. I find it a bit ridiculous that games where pointless violence is the main selling point (IE Manhunt 2) are perfectly fine, but titles like this are too controversial. Hopefully you can rework it for another platform.
@Lucbernard
I just notice you said this,
"In case you were retarded"
Unbelievable.
You use a word which insults disabled people and yet pretend to make the moral high ground !! Even mentioning handicapped children.
You're just an attention seeking hypocrite.
Maybe if the game gets blocked the author will release it as a homebrew game, so at least people who are interested could use their R4 (or equivalent).
I wouldn't mind checking it out to see what the hubbub is all about.
the day Reaprar says anything nice will be the day I learn what the opposite to surprised is.
This does suck :(
oh. Well, I guess I learned something, and you did say something nice. That was... unexpected.
I can see why Nintendo wouldn't want to put out the game, but I disagree with them. If they wanted to protect the chilluns, they could slap on a 16+ rating and be done. I also don't want to pass any kind of judgment on the game without either an indepth look, or actually playing it.
@ Reaprar:
Yes, I read the comments, as I have for every other time you've gone batshit over this game in one of Luc's cblogs. You're trolling.
Wow, someone trys to do something nice and it turns into a shit storm :P
Unlucky Luc but trying to get nintendo to release this was always asking alot. You should/should've asked around smaller developers to take it on.
You could always release it as an intergame at somewhere like newgrounds and ask for donations to be made, atleast that way its sure to get to the public.
Reaprar? TROLLING? NO WAI, I dont believe it
Here's your solution Luc: release it on PC, and 5 people will play it, just like if it came out on DS. Game, set, match.
Reaprar is a troll.
Also, I admire Luc's attempts to bring this to the DS, and I want to support it any way I can, even if it's a fruitless attempt to get the dinosaurs at Nintendo to accept the changing roles of videogames.
I would seriously attempt courting other platforms though.
Sorry to hear it, Luc. If NOA doesn't change their mind, I'll be sure to import a European copy because the game looks damn interesting and I think should be supported.
@Reaprar
Okay... So?
Doesn't change anything I said. :p
Im sad to hear about the news of your game but I am not really surprised. Society is too "scared" to let anything of this nature come out. I could see kids playing this though, despite that opening message about the kids being killed.
Look at advance wars: days of ruin. There is a whole lot of death and dark overtones in that but I bet plenty of 12 year olds play it. I guess its just that the holocaust is still such a touchy subject (for good reason of course) that such a game just seems too "controversial".
I note you didn't respond to my complaint about using the word "retarded" as an insult to someone who you feel isn't very bright.
No doubt you have no qualms about calling someone a "jew" if they are mean.
I think this is a very worthy subject for a game. I have serious doubts that you have the knowledge or sensitivity to do it justice. I hope (for everyone's sake) I am wrong.
Luc, do whatever you can to release this game. Whether you sell it as educational or as a lollercaust, your idea is awesome and I would like to see the end result.
Oh I see. You merely ignore criticism - and reply to the easy bits. Genius. A game addressing arguably the greatest crime of the 20th century should be no problem for a man of your colossal intellect.
@tribble, shhh. Your question wasn't answered, so why hassle for more? I guess because in the current state of the net, the term retarded has gained a second connotation,. You seem to be trying to pick up some a very minor part of this whole debate just to either get attention, or troll a bit. Sorry, but that's the case.
In the same way I assume when people argue with you, you will painstakingly go through every single one of their points, and also point out spelling error.
I'm sure if you find the term genuinely offensive, Luc would be more than sorry. It's not cool to make a big issue out of a very minor part of the whole denbate.
@Holmes
Nazi's are not horrible creatures. They're humans which did bad things. Judging them as creatures is narrow-minded, arrogant and simply foolish. Some joined out of fear, some out of support, but either way they are people who did the wrong thing. Go up to a German WWII veteran and call him a horrible creature, see how he reacts.
But I totally side with the Child's imagination. How would you see them if you were in that situation? How about the PSP Luc?
Too many ass holes in this blog assuming too much. Some even making out that using the word 'retarded' in a derogative way dictates an entire thought process, as well as certain individuals dealing out negative comments and expecting none in return.
Grow the fuck up.
"They're practically Nazis about the no-Nazis thing." -- Scott Sharkey
To all of you saying "you actually think nintendo would let you release this" can shut the fuck up. That doesn't make it right.
Anyway, i hope things work out for the best
Maybe I'm completely naive or stupid, but I don't understand at all why anyone would have a problem with this game, other than it sounds like the media has sensationalized the game to be something that it's not. Luc in any of these interviews have you had the chance to show the game? I think if people saw it they'd realize what you were going for. I include Nintendo is this too.
This is why I hate the mainstream media. They change things to fit their own agenda and leave the control out of the people. It's bullshit...
Seriously Luc, if you need anything, I support your ideas.
PC. PSP. There's a great chance Sony would allow such a game on the PSP, and anything goes on the computer. There's a huge, thriving industry of indie developers producing and releasing games for digital download on the PC; The most recent success is Audiosurf, but it's hardly a rare thing. If you look up information on it, you'll see tons and tons of similar games, from similar very small teams released solely through their websites, customers purchasing the game through Paypal. Piracy almost never touches these teams; they go completely under the radar of most pirate groups, who are out to make a name and notoriety for themselves by hitting big publishers.
Seriously man, if you've already got as much of the game planned out and worked on as it seems, releasing the game via PC would be piss easy, and profitable, and you'd have a huge available audience.