On the accounts vs PSN ID's I think that the difference is that several people can go online with the PS3 using different ID's. Two siblings can have totally different characters/levels in a game like MAG. Xbox requires a payment for online play per "account" not for the Xbox. If my husband and I wanted to have different identities online with our own stats, we'd have to have two Xbox accounts and pay the monthly/annual fees for those two accounts.
... the Accounts/PSN ID's should actually be a positive for the PS3, rather than a negative.
The controller thing is also a positive. My husband has "his" controller and it's pretty beat up. If I want to become controller 1 or 2 we can either turn them on in order, or simply hit the PS button and assign a new controller number. Again, I see this more as a positive, than a negative. Comfort is subjective though and what you get used to.
I agree that the changing features of the PS3 is a negative. I love my backward compatible 60GB unit, though in all honesty I rarely use that feature and I guess I might have chosen a cheaper model without the BC if given the choice. The choice for new consumers is now gone though. :(
.. the removal of linux hit me a lot harder as it was an option I had and liked that I had, though I can see that if piracy was enabled through this option that we would lose it. Pirates are why we can't have nice things. :(
(I have stock in Microsoft too)
I think that for me, I like the "potential" of the PS3 system. I like that it's an open system and I loved what UT3 did with the ability to use keyboard/mouse as an alternate control and also the ability to download mods/mutators directly from the web. I like that a form of Steam will be coming to the PS3 because it's an open system and I like that there is a shitty browser on the system. Mostly I like the free online play. For me, I chose the PS3 based on potential...yeah, it's not there yet, but it's coming along.
Nice blog... and yeah, I evidently have the opposite bias! LOL!.. but that's mostly because I'm cheap and the pay to play for online stil irritates me.
... the Accounts/PSN ID's should actually be a positive for the PS3, rather than a negative.
The controller thing is also a positive. My husband has "his" controller and it's pretty beat up. If I want to become controller 1 or 2 we can either turn them on in order, or simply hit the PS button and assign a new controller number. Again, I see this more as a positive, than a negative. Comfort is subjective though and what you get used to.
I agree that the changing features of the PS3 is a negative. I love my backward compatible 60GB unit, though in all honesty I rarely use that feature and I guess I might have chosen a cheaper model without the BC if given the choice. The choice for new consumers is now gone though. :(
.. the removal of linux hit me a lot harder as it was an option I had and liked that I had, though I can see that if piracy was enabled through this option that we would lose it. Pirates are why we can't have nice things. :(
(I have stock in Microsoft too)
I think that for me, I like the "potential" of the PS3 system. I like that it's an open system and I loved what UT3 did with the ability to use keyboard/mouse as an alternate control and also the ability to download mods/mutators directly from the web. I like that a form of Steam will be coming to the PS3 because it's an open system and I like that there is a shitty browser on the system. Mostly I like the free online play. For me, I chose the PS3 based on potential...yeah, it's not there yet, but it's coming along.
Nice blog... and yeah, I evidently have the opposite bias! LOL!.. but that's mostly because I'm cheap and the pay to play for online stil irritates me.
I own all three systems but tend to generally play my Xbox for the joy of online gaming with badass people.
Well, except for Mrandydixon. That's purely a sexual thing.
Post I name thee:

Well, except for Mrandydixon. That's purely a sexual thing.
Post I name thee:

Nice to see a guy who can actually enjoy all three systems! Also, the Gamecube controller is probably the most ergonomic controller EVAR!
Agreed. The cost of Xbox LIVE is totally justified for me as I use it all the time and it's just so user friendly. Nice blawg dood!
@knutaf
This was a well-thought-out blog, and I concur with a lot of your preferences (even though I still love my PS3... and like my Wii).
The biggest contributor to my 360-bias is the controller. The PS3 controller just doesn't "fit" my hands very well, and I truthfully experience serious discomfort after playing for too long. This hasn't stopped me from enjoying some of the awesome PS3-exclusives, of course, but it means that most of my multiplat gaming has to be done on the 360 lest I develop carpal tunnel at 28 :(
Also, achievements make me hard in a way that trophies just can't match. Couldn't tell you why. Maybe it's the sound effect?
@Elsa
Is there a way for me to sign in multiple PSN profiles at the same time? (As in, one per controller?) I've tried figuring out how to do this, but I can never get it to do anything other than "Player 2" for the second controller :(
Thanks!
This was a well-thought-out blog, and I concur with a lot of your preferences (even though I still love my PS3... and like my Wii).
The biggest contributor to my 360-bias is the controller. The PS3 controller just doesn't "fit" my hands very well, and I truthfully experience serious discomfort after playing for too long. This hasn't stopped me from enjoying some of the awesome PS3-exclusives, of course, but it means that most of my multiplat gaming has to be done on the 360 lest I develop carpal tunnel at 28 :(
Also, achievements make me hard in a way that trophies just can't match. Couldn't tell you why. Maybe it's the sound effect?
@Elsa
Is there a way for me to sign in multiple PSN profiles at the same time? (As in, one per controller?) I've tried figuring out how to do this, but I can never get it to do anything other than "Player 2" for the second controller :(
Thanks!
@andy - it varies game by game. Sacred 2 and LBP let you go multiplayer as different profiles. Warhawk, Wipeout, Fat Princess and Lost Planet 2 do not.
About PS3 controllers: you have to wire them to sync the things, but PS3's the easiest of the lot to sync up. Wire, PS button, done.
About doing it remotely: I've heard Sony's going to do a Remote Play app for PC. As it is I can sign on to a wireless network with my PSP, go remote play, and start playing downloading stuff, playing PS1 games, music, etc. I totally know what you mean about how awesome it feels to mess around like that.
About PS3 controllers: you have to wire them to sync the things, but PS3's the easiest of the lot to sync up. Wire, PS button, done.
About doing it remotely: I've heard Sony's going to do a Remote Play app for PC. As it is I can sign on to a wireless network with my PSP, go remote play, and start playing downloading stuff, playing PS1 games, music, etc. I totally know what you mean about how awesome it feels to mess around like that.
I was totally thinking of writing one of these. You beat me to it. Curses!
Great write up, even though you killed my future blog!
Great write up, even though you killed my future blog!
Some of those issues weren't a problem for me. I just play on regular ass T.V. (to quote Dave Chappelle) and thus I never had any sound issues.
Also you need to plug your PS3 in to tie it to the system? Weird, because all I ever have to do is press the PS button and I'm good to go. I only ever have to use the adapter to recharge the controllers. If anything, Sony got that right, instead of this battery malarky. As far as the controllers switching around, was it a case of someone pressing the PS button first? That might have something to do with it. If not, I got nothing on that one.
All in all, before you all cry afoul, I love my Xbox 360. I play the shit out of it. You guys know I'm on it nightly. That being said, the one thing about the damn 360 was how fucking expensive it is to upkeep the fucking thing. Sure, Free Online vs. Paid, who cares but that along with Microsoft's "hidden costs" model was what really made me hate Microsoft upon my initial purchase of the machine.
Non-Rechargable Batteries? What the fuck is this shit? I have to spend an extra 100 dollars JUST to play away from a wired connection? Ultimately I hate Microsoft's nickel and diming and in that respect I think Sony atleast has the upperhand. As far as the actual online is concerned obviously XBox is King. Unlike Sony, Microsoft actually caters most of their titles towards online play which is obviously what people want.
Sony is like a small baby right now, slowly crawling its way to actually trying to compete with Microsoft, but it's kinda ridiculous to the point that it doesn't really matter.
Also you need to plug your PS3 in to tie it to the system? Weird, because all I ever have to do is press the PS button and I'm good to go. I only ever have to use the adapter to recharge the controllers. If anything, Sony got that right, instead of this battery malarky. As far as the controllers switching around, was it a case of someone pressing the PS button first? That might have something to do with it. If not, I got nothing on that one.
All in all, before you all cry afoul, I love my Xbox 360. I play the shit out of it. You guys know I'm on it nightly. That being said, the one thing about the damn 360 was how fucking expensive it is to upkeep the fucking thing. Sure, Free Online vs. Paid, who cares but that along with Microsoft's "hidden costs" model was what really made me hate Microsoft upon my initial purchase of the machine.
Non-Rechargable Batteries? What the fuck is this shit? I have to spend an extra 100 dollars JUST to play away from a wired connection? Ultimately I hate Microsoft's nickel and diming and in that respect I think Sony atleast has the upperhand. As far as the actual online is concerned obviously XBox is King. Unlike Sony, Microsoft actually caters most of their titles towards online play which is obviously what people want.
Sony is like a small baby right now, slowly crawling its way to actually trying to compete with Microsoft, but it's kinda ridiculous to the point that it doesn't really matter.
Also, since you have Resistance 2, you need to add me (ie. Marcus) on PS3 so we can play that sometime. Also, Killzone 2 if you're up for that. I think Resistance 2 personally represents the closest to the Xbox experience as far as multiplayer goes plus it's pretty fun. Chaotic as all hell since the match numbers are always ridiculous (up to 60 people in a single match) but it's a fun little fragfest on the PS3.
R2 co-op needs to find it's way back to an FNF night! :)
(I prefered R1's competitive multiplayer, but absolutely love R2's co-op online mode... especially superhuman mode!!)
(I prefered R1's competitive multiplayer, but absolutely love R2's co-op online mode... especially superhuman mode!!)
"About PS3 controllers: you have to wire them to sync the things, but PS3's the easiest of the lot to sync up. Wire, PS button, done."
This. The controller synching protocol of the 360 is one retarded feature that is seldom raised, and I'm surprised it would be considered in preference to the PS3's simple and user-friendly system of synching and changing controllers.
This. The controller synching protocol of the 360 is one retarded feature that is seldom raised, and I'm surprised it would be considered in preference to the PS3's simple and user-friendly system of synching and changing controllers.
I don't know how you have your PS3 interfacing with your surround. I have the ps3 connected to my tv via HDMI, my surround connected to my tv via optical. I select the top 3 selections in the surround options (and don't de-select anything that's already selected by default) and that works for EVERYTHING. I also have PCM selected under the sound options somewhere. (I have a cheapo sony 5.1 surround too)
I agree about a lot of the deficiencies the ps3 has with things like multiple logins and split screen, but I hate, HATE, HATE on the 360 how you cannot change the controller number. If I'm sitting on the left, I want to be controller 1, if I'm controller 2, I have to either log out and swap controllers (ew) then log back in, or TURN THE 360 OFF? Fucking retarded.
I agree about a lot of the deficiencies the ps3 has with things like multiple logins and split screen, but I hate, HATE, HATE on the 360 how you cannot change the controller number. If I'm sitting on the left, I want to be controller 1, if I'm controller 2, I have to either log out and swap controllers (ew) then log back in, or TURN THE 360 OFF? Fucking retarded.
Forgot to mention, about backwards compatibility. I get terribly annoyed when people bring up PS2 bc gone from ps3 in a case about why they think 360 is the better choice in this respect. Your 360 cannot play ps2 games so it is irrelevant.
@brainderailment
"I get terribly annoyed when people bring up PS2 bc gone from ps3 in a case about why they think 360 is the better choice in this respect. Your 360 cannot play ps2 games so it is irrelevant."
Uhh... what? The argument is that the 360 is still backwards compatible with the original Xbox, just like the PS3 used to be with the PS2. No one is saying that the 360 can/should play PS2 games, just that one console has backwards compatibility and the other doesn't. Doesn't really seem that hard to comprehend...
Or were you making a joke and I just didn't get it?
"I get terribly annoyed when people bring up PS2 bc gone from ps3 in a case about why they think 360 is the better choice in this respect. Your 360 cannot play ps2 games so it is irrelevant."
Uhh... what? The argument is that the 360 is still backwards compatible with the original Xbox, just like the PS3 used to be with the PS2. No one is saying that the 360 can/should play PS2 games, just that one console has backwards compatibility and the other doesn't. Doesn't really seem that hard to comprehend...
Or were you making a joke and I just didn't get it?
The gamecube controller fucking rocked. It's really weird though, even though the PS3 controller is smaller than the 360 controller, it's better for me cuz my hands are freaking titanic and the control sticks on the dualshocks have a wider range of movement than the 360 ones.
My thumbs bump together when I try to play a shooter on the PS3/PS2. Also, the sticks feel a little loose for my tastes.
Nintendo dominates on the controller front for me. SNES, N64, GameCube and the Wii Classic Controller Pro are all god-like in my eyes. The 360 controller is 'aight, but that Dpad hurts my feelings sometimes.
Nintendo dominates on the controller front for me. SNES, N64, GameCube and the Wii Classic Controller Pro are all god-like in my eyes. The 360 controller is 'aight, but that Dpad hurts my feelings sometimes.
@Knutaf
Nice Blog, you nailed it. PS3 controllers are too small, and as a result are uncomfortable for extended playing sessions.
I also hate how they (PS3 controllers) creak and moan like an elderly woman suffering with hemorrhoids. :)
Nice Blog, you nailed it. PS3 controllers are too small, and as a result are uncomfortable for extended playing sessions.
I also hate how they (PS3 controllers) creak and moan like an elderly woman suffering with hemorrhoids. :)
Good blog man, I also have all 3 consoles and my PS3 is always the one giving me the most problems, especially when it comes down to game updates.
Also, awesome Yoshi's Island avatar!
Also, awesome Yoshi's Island avatar!
Elsa: If you assume for the sake of argument that Xbox Gold accounts are free, do you really see a need for both accounts and PSN IDs on the PS3? I'm not seeing it, but perhaps I just don't understand the system well enough.
I don't like the fact that PS3 controllers are numbered in the order they're turned on. That still annoys me. But being able to switch which controller number you are is undoubtedly useful. I'll give you that. I wish the 360 could do it more elegantly.
"Pirates are why we can't have nice things." <-- Print that on a shirt and I'd buy it!
Mr. Dixon: the achievement sound effect is like crack. I don't know how they did it, but they nailed it. Also, thanks for totally reading my mind responding on the backcompat comment, so I don't have to.
Manasteel: I dunno, I felt this was kind of weak and had a lot of holes. You should post one too. I'm sure you have a different set of points you care about.
Gareth: are you saying it's 100 bucks to get a wireless controller? Or something about the battery? I just used AAs for quite a while, no problems. Also, yeah, we should try Resistance 2 sometime.
All you who have problems with controller syncing: here's my argument for the 360/Wii model. You take your controller to a con or something (say PAX; I actually do this with my 360 controllers every years). If you don't also remember to carry the silly cable with you, you can't use your controller. Or you take it to your friend's house, and he's lost his because he only ever needed it one time. Again, you can't use it.
360 method: you push a button on the controller, then one on the console, and you're set.
PS3 method: you connect a cable between the console and controller, then push a button on the controller, and you're set.
I don't see how the 360 version is far more frustrating.
SuperShawn: in this case, not actually from Yoshi's Island! Though he is in it too, and it's a great game.
Everyone, thanks for reading, even if it stirred up some resentment or go the blood boiling a bit.
I don't like the fact that PS3 controllers are numbered in the order they're turned on. That still annoys me. But being able to switch which controller number you are is undoubtedly useful. I'll give you that. I wish the 360 could do it more elegantly.
"Pirates are why we can't have nice things." <-- Print that on a shirt and I'd buy it!
Mr. Dixon: the achievement sound effect is like crack. I don't know how they did it, but they nailed it. Also, thanks for totally reading my mind responding on the backcompat comment, so I don't have to.
Manasteel: I dunno, I felt this was kind of weak and had a lot of holes. You should post one too. I'm sure you have a different set of points you care about.
Gareth: are you saying it's 100 bucks to get a wireless controller? Or something about the battery? I just used AAs for quite a while, no problems. Also, yeah, we should try Resistance 2 sometime.
All you who have problems with controller syncing: here's my argument for the 360/Wii model. You take your controller to a con or something (say PAX; I actually do this with my 360 controllers every years). If you don't also remember to carry the silly cable with you, you can't use your controller. Or you take it to your friend's house, and he's lost his because he only ever needed it one time. Again, you can't use it.
360 method: you push a button on the controller, then one on the console, and you're set.
PS3 method: you connect a cable between the console and controller, then push a button on the controller, and you're set.
I don't see how the 360 version is far more frustrating.
SuperShawn: in this case, not actually from Yoshi's Island! Though he is in it too, and it's a great game.
Everyone, thanks for reading, even if it stirred up some resentment or go the blood boiling a bit.
Sorry man. I meant I paid 100 dollars for the wireless adapter so I wasn't tied to a wired connection because where it was was really awkward. So I had to buy the adapter. I was one of the last people to buy a pre-slim 360 which has the adapter in the machine. That ontop of the LIVE subscription and a broken mic kinds pissed me off and made me feel like I was being put over a barrel. I'm cool with it now but initially (and because of my poor timing on the 360) really made me regret my purchase for a short while.
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"All you who have problems with controller syncing: here's my argument for the 360/Wii model. You take your controller to a con or something (say PAX; I actually do this with my 360 controllers every years). If you don't also remember to carry the silly cable with you, you can't use your controller. Or you take it to your friend's house, and he's lost his because he only ever needed it one time. Again, you can't use it."
The cable is also required for battery charging, dude.
The cable is also required for battery charging, dude.
I'm not really sure what you meant by 2 accounts. I have a windows live account that I needed for my xbox live account and they're not the same thing. The logging in is the same thing on ps3, or maybe I'm just not making it all too difficult?
I don't know, but at least you're willing to admit you're biased and virtually a fanboy. I love my 360 and my ps3. 370 has an awesome mulitiplayer interface but ps3 actually drowns it out in exclusives, and not to mention has a much more active communtity for older games. Try playing borderlands on both or something similiar. Even gears 1 can be a bitch to find players, whereas even a game like metal gear online can be hard to get a spot in a tournament.
It's a toss up, but I'd rather suffer the extra button presses, non-streamlined menus, an lack of cross-game chat in exchange for more people to play any game I want with, despite how old or obscure.
I don't know, but at least you're willing to admit you're biased and virtually a fanboy. I love my 360 and my ps3. 370 has an awesome mulitiplayer interface but ps3 actually drowns it out in exclusives, and not to mention has a much more active communtity for older games. Try playing borderlands on both or something similiar. Even gears 1 can be a bitch to find players, whereas even a game like metal gear online can be hard to get a spot in a tournament.
It's a toss up, but I'd rather suffer the extra button presses, non-streamlined menus, an lack of cross-game chat in exchange for more people to play any game I want with, despite how old or obscure.
Nice blog, yo! I'm personally a little more biased towards my PS3, but a lot of the points you brought up are totally legit.
I will say however, that I prefer the PS3 controller in every way.
I will also say that the 360's biggest draw for me is online play and that these days I'm so busy that I never play online so it has kind of lost its appeal.
And finally I will say that there are some PS3 exclusives that I was absolutively, posilutely going to HAVE to own. No ifs, ands, or buts. That's ultimately why I bought the PS3 over the 360. In fact one series in particular sealed the deal, Metal Gear Solid.
When the PS3 launched I waited a while. I debated. I looked at the 360 and what it offered and thought to myself, "man, it's the superior option in so many ways". It was one of the toughest purchasing decisions of my gaming life, but in the end I just had so many good times on PS1 and PS2 that I needed that to continue. I traded in the PS2 and a bunch of controllers and accessories and got a backwards compatible 60gb PS3 and haven't looked back. The 360 is a great console though and if I ever get more free time I'm going to own another one and actually use it a little bit more often. :)
I will say however, that I prefer the PS3 controller in every way.
I will also say that the 360's biggest draw for me is online play and that these days I'm so busy that I never play online so it has kind of lost its appeal.
And finally I will say that there are some PS3 exclusives that I was absolutively, posilutely going to HAVE to own. No ifs, ands, or buts. That's ultimately why I bought the PS3 over the 360. In fact one series in particular sealed the deal, Metal Gear Solid.
When the PS3 launched I waited a while. I debated. I looked at the 360 and what it offered and thought to myself, "man, it's the superior option in so many ways". It was one of the toughest purchasing decisions of my gaming life, but in the end I just had so many good times on PS1 and PS2 that I needed that to continue. I traded in the PS2 and a bunch of controllers and accessories and got a backwards compatible 60gb PS3 and haven't looked back. The 360 is a great console though and if I ever get more free time I'm going to own another one and actually use it a little bit more often. :)
@mrandydixon: People bring up backwards compatibility as a reason why they think their 360 is better than their ps3. The fact that 360 doesn't play ps2 games and the ps3 doesn't play xbox games means that the point is 100% irrelevant. It should never be brought up when comparing the 2 consoles.
Finally, the 360 controller feels the most comfortable in my hand of any controller I've ever used
There's clearly something severley wrong with your hands.
There's clearly something severley wrong with your hands.

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